Re: Pentax K-1000 (film), 35-80 zoom, Kodak gold film questions but maybe for sale
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: eeping the stuff and selling it. So here are my questions... The other is for opinions on the 35-80 zoom for use on my ist D - I know I can check that myself just using it - but more input would be nice too. In other words, I might sell it if it is desireable but not super great... is it better than my 18-55 kit lens at comperable focal lengths? I have this lens, but have never used it on my digital cameras, i should i suppose. Dave about the film -- is there a place to go on the web to put in the bar code number to find out how old the film is? Thanks in advance, gang ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-1000 (film), 35-80 zoom, Kodak gold film, questions, but maybe for sale
Kodak apparently doesn't put a key-code on consumer 35mm (135) color negative film. The key-code is on movie film. Regular 35mm film has an expiration date/process by date printed on the box. I looked at some boxes of Kodak Pro films that I have in the refrigerator and they also appear to have a batch number on the carton. I don't know if the consumer films have the batch code or not. I would guess they do because it seems simpler to print the batch number on everything than to set up a different process for printing pro consumer film boxes. But I don't think there's anything on the film itself that will tell you when it was manufactured. From: Ann Sanfedele Thanks, P.j. I found nothing on exposed Gold film that I had from 2002... I was hoping on one of our gang who actually worked in a photo store or something would just immediately know where to look on the web ann On 7/10/2011 21:05, p. j. alling wrote: Ann, I think there may be a such a code printed on the edge of the film, I was able to find this, but it seems to be only for movie film, and stops at 1966, and only works after the film has been developed. http://www.historicphotoarchive.com/f1/ekcode.html But there may be more information out there. On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Ann Sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On 7/10/2011 16:52, John Sessoms wrote: Ann Sanfedele Ok so I could not resist making a $29.95 purchase yesterday at my local Salvation army There in the display case in the front of the store was K-1000 with a pentax smc A 35-80 zoom. Guy behind counter asked me if I wanted the case it came in I said sure... The case turned out to be a pretty decent small camera bag which he just plopped the camera into and handed it to me. Well, inside there were 4 (24 exposure) rolls of Kodak Gold and a Canon sureshot 85zoom (hehe). Which is probably pretty much worthless. I'm torn between keeping the stuff and selling it. So here are my questions... The K-1000 is in mint condition but it is not an oldie... it is Assembled in China one thing I'd like to check is to see if the serial numbers are NOT on the stolen equipment list. I've forgotten how to do that... There used to be an online registry you could search for the camera serial number. A quick look just now indicates the domain is for sale, so the registry is probably defunct. Just because it's the Salvation Army, I would suspect it was not stolen; Usually true - but not a given in NY. Sorryt o hear that registry is gone. more likely something left behind by someone that ended up getting donated during a house-cleaning. Whoever had it didn't appreciate its value. Well according to the guy's comments so far, the lens is not such a prize. and the body, to be fair, isn't a golden oldy but a more recent vintage being assembled in China. If you had the box the film came in you could go by the expiration date. If the film has been exposed, I'd just take it to a mini-lab and get it processed to see if whatever is on it provides a clue when it was taken. I would suggest telling them it was film you found in the camera that you bought when you drop it off. It is all unexposed.. although the little Canon has film in it that may have some frames exposed... I'd jsut toss em.. but the battery is dead and I can't get the film out without a battery in it. Of course, I could shoot a roll myself , just for the sport. I THINK there is a code on the film itself that tells it's age - but I may be wrong. ann - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3757 - Release Date: 07/10/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax K-1000 (film), 35-80 zoom, Kodak gold film questions but maybe for sale
Ok so I could not resist making a $29.95 purchase yesterday at my local Salvation army There in the display case in the front of the store was K-1000 with a pentax smc A 35-80 zoom. Guy behind counter asked me if I wanted the case it came in I said sure... The case turned out to be a pretty decent small camera bag which he just plopped the camera into and handed it to me. Well, inside there were 4 (24 exposure) rolls of Kodak Gold and a Canon sureshot 85zoom (hehe). Which is probably pretty much worthless. I'm torn between keeping the stuff and selling it. So here are my questions... The K-1000 is in mint condition but it is not an oldie... it is Assembled in China one thing I'd like to check is to see if the serial numbers are NOT on the stolen equipment list. I've forgotten how to do that... The other is for opinions on the 35-80 zoom for use on my ist D - I know I can check that myself just using it - but more input would be nice too. In other words, I might sell it if it is desireable but not super great... is it better than my 18-55 kit lens at comperable focal lengths? about the film -- is there a place to go on the web to put in the bar code number to find out how old the film is? Thanks in advance, gang ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-1000 (film), 35-80 zoom, Kodak gold film questions but maybe for sale
Ann, I don't have direct experience with that lens but there's some meager information at Stan Halpin's lens comments page. http://stans-photography.info/LongComments.html#28-80%20mm%20f/3.5-4.5%20A Very little so it seems. It doesn't seem to be very desirable. Nor especially good. Though the information on build quality seems to be conflicting. Maybe Jostine and Jens can illuminate their comments. About the barcode, I can't tell you much. I don't think it tells you anything about the date of manufacture. On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Ok so I could not resist making a $29.95 purchase yesterday at my local Salvation army There in the display case in the front of the store was K-1000 with a pentax smc A 35-80 zoom. Guy behind counter asked me if I wanted the case it came in I said sure... The case turned out to be a pretty decent small camera bag which he just plopped the camera into and handed it to me. Well, inside there were 4 (24 exposure) rolls of Kodak Gold and a Canon sureshot 85zoom (hehe). Which is probably pretty much worthless. I'm torn between keeping the stuff and selling it. So here are my questions... The K-1000 is in mint condition but it is not an oldie... it is Assembled in China one thing I'd like to check is to see if the serial numbers are NOT on the stolen equipment list. I've forgotten how to do that... The other is for opinions on the 35-80 zoom for use on my ist D - I know I can check that myself just using it - but more input would be nice too. In other words, I might sell it if it is desireable but not super great... is it better than my 18-55 kit lens at comperable focal lengths? about the film -- is there a place to go on the web to put in the bar code number to find out how old the film is? Thanks in advance, gang ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-1000 (film), 35-80 zoom, Kodak gold film questions but maybe for sale
On 2011-07-10 11:23 , Ann Sanfedele wrote: The other is for opinions on the 35-80 zoom for use on my ist D - I know I can check that myself just using it - but more input would be nice too. In other words, I might sell it if it is desireable but not super great... is it better than my 18-55 kit lens at comperable focal lengths? you can get a good sense of it here (showing the whole list so you can see how the score compares) http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/category-SMC-Pentax-A-Zoom-Lenses.html only two disparate reviews, but the clincher for me is that it is the same optical design as the widely-disparaged F 35-80, of which: http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-F-35-80mm-F4-5.6-Zoom-Lens.html (a small minority really like it though) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-1000 (film), 35-80 zoom, Kodak gold film questions but maybe for sale
On 7/10/2011 14:29, p. j. alling wrote: Ann, I don't have direct experience with that lens but there's some meager information at Stan Halpin's lens comments page. http://stans-photography.info/LongComments.html#28-80%20mm%20f/3.5-4.5%20A That's not the same lens . This is the link to the F version of the 35-80 http://stans-photography.info/BriefComments.html#35-80%20mm%20f/4.0-5.6%20F Very little so it seems. It doesn't seem to be very desirable. Nor especially good. Though the information on build quality seems to be conflicting. Maybe Jostine and Jens can illuminate their comments. About the barcode, I can't tell you much. I don't think it tells you anything about the date of manufacture. I thought it must. oh well... On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Ann Sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Ok so I could not resist making a $29.95 purchase yesterday at my local Salvation army There in the display case in the front of the store was K-1000 with a pentax smc A 35-80 zoom. Guy behind counter asked me if I wanted the case it came in I said sure... The case turned out to be a pretty decent small camera bag which he just plopped the camera into and handed it to me. Well, inside there were 4 (24 exposure) rolls of Kodak Gold and a Canon sureshot 85zoom (hehe). Which is probably pretty much worthless. I'm torn between keeping the stuff and selling it. So here are my questions... The K-1000 is in mint condition but it is not an oldie... it is Assembled in China one thing I'd like to check is to see if the serial numbers are NOT on the stolen equipment list. I've forgotten how to do that... The other is for opinions on the 35-80 zoom for use on my ist D - I know I can check that myself just using it - but more input would be nice too. In other words, I might sell it if it is desireable but not super great... is it better than my 18-55 kit lens at comperable focal lengths? about the film -- is there a place to go on the web to put in the bar code number to find out how old the film is? Thanks in advance, gang ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-1000 (film), 35-80 zoom, Kodak gold film questions but maybe for sale
On 7/10/2011 14:55, steve harley wrote: On 2011-07-10 11:23 , Ann Sanfedele wrote: The other is for opinions on the 35-80 zoom for use on my ist D - I know I can check that myself just using it - but more input would be nice too. In other words, I might sell it if it is desireable but not super great... is it better than my 18-55 kit lens at comperable focal lengths? you can get a good sense of it here (showing the whole list so you can see how the score compares) http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/category-SMC-Pentax-A-Zoom-Lenses.html only two disparate reviews, but the clincher for me is that it is the same optical design as the widely-disparaged F 35-80, of which: http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-F-35-80mm-F4-5.6-Zoom-Lens.html (a small minority really like it though) So i saw on Stans page that pj pointed me too.. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pentax K-1000 (film), 35-80 zoom, Kodak gold film questions, but maybe for sale
Ann Sanfedele Ok so I could not resist making a $29.95 purchase yesterday at my local Salvation army There in the display case in the front of the store was K-1000 with a pentax smc A 35-80 zoom. Guy behind counter asked me if I wanted the case it came in I said sure... The case turned out to be a pretty decent small camera bag which he just plopped the camera into and handed it to me. Well, inside there were 4 (24 exposure) rolls of Kodak Gold and a Canon sureshot 85zoom (hehe). Which is probably pretty much worthless. I'm torn between keeping the stuff and selling it. So here are my questions... The K-1000 is in mint condition but it is not an oldie... it is Assembled in China one thing I'd like to check is to see if the serial numbers are NOT on the stolen equipment list. I've forgotten how to do that... There used to be an online registry you could search for the camera serial number. A quick look just now indicates the domain is for sale, so the registry is probably defunct. Just because it's the Salvation Army, I would suspect it was not stolen; more likely something left behind by someone that ended up getting donated during a house-cleaning. Whoever had it didn't appreciate its value. The other is for opinions on the 35-80 zoom for use on my ist D - I know I can check that myself just using it - but more input would be nice too. In other words, I might sell it if it is desirable but not super great... is it better than my 18-55 kit lens at comparable focal lengths? about the film -- is there a place to go on the web to put in the bar code number to find out how old the film is? Thanks in advance, gang If you had the box the film came in you could go by the expiration date. If the film has been exposed, I'd just take it to a mini-lab and get it processed to see if whatever is on it provides a clue when it was taken. I would suggest telling them it was film you found in the camera that you bought when you drop it off. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3755 - Release Date: 07/09/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-1000 (film), 35-80 zoom, Kodak gold film questions, but maybe for sale
On 7/10/2011 16:52, John Sessoms wrote: Ann Sanfedele Ok so I could not resist making a $29.95 purchase yesterday at my local Salvation army There in the display case in the front of the store was K-1000 with a pentax smc A 35-80 zoom. Guy behind counter asked me if I wanted the case it came in I said sure... The case turned out to be a pretty decent small camera bag which he just plopped the camera into and handed it to me. Well, inside there were 4 (24 exposure) rolls of Kodak Gold and a Canon sureshot 85zoom (hehe). Which is probably pretty much worthless. I'm torn between keeping the stuff and selling it. So here are my questions... The K-1000 is in mint condition but it is not an oldie... it is Assembled in China one thing I'd like to check is to see if the serial numbers are NOT on the stolen equipment list. I've forgotten how to do that... There used to be an online registry you could search for the camera serial number. A quick look just now indicates the domain is for sale, so the registry is probably defunct. Just because it's the Salvation Army, I would suspect it was not stolen; Usually true - but not a given in NY. Sorryt o hear that registry is gone. more likely something left behind by someone that ended up getting donated during a house-cleaning. Whoever had it didn't appreciate its value. Well according to the guy's comments so far, the lens is not such a prize. and the body, to be fair, isn't a golden oldy but a more recent vintage being assembled in China. If you had the box the film came in you could go by the expiration date. If the film has been exposed, I'd just take it to a mini-lab and get it processed to see if whatever is on it provides a clue when it was taken. I would suggest telling them it was film you found in the camera that you bought when you drop it off. It is all unexposed.. although the little Canon has film in it that may have some frames exposed... I'd jsut toss em.. but the battery is dead and I can't get the film out without a battery in it. Of course, I could shoot a roll myself , just for the sport. I THINK there is a code on the film itself that tells it's age - but I may be wrong. ann - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3755 - Release Date: 07/09/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-1000 (film), 35-80 zoom, Kodak gold film questions but maybe for sale
Brother has an A 35~80 he likes. In the past he used it on an ME Super and now a K10D. I've seen a few of his shots taken with it and they looked fine. Not to get too technical. =) Jack --- On Sun, 7/10/11, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Pentax K-1000 (film), 35-80 zoom, Kodak gold film questions but maybe for sale To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 10:23 AM Ok so I could not resist making a $29.95 purchase yesterday at my local Salvation army There in the display case in the front of the store was K-1000 with a pentax smc A 35-80 zoom. Guy behind counter asked me if I wanted the case it came in I said sure... The case turned out to be a pretty decent small camera bag which he just plopped the camera into and handed it to me. Well, inside there were 4 (24 exposure) rolls of Kodak Gold and a Canon sureshot 85zoom (hehe). Which is probably pretty much worthless. I'm torn between keeping the stuff and selling it. So here are my questions... The K-1000 is in mint condition but it is not an oldie... it is Assembled in China one thing I'd like to check is to see if the serial numbers are NOT on the stolen equipment list. I've forgotten how to do that... The other is for opinions on the 35-80 zoom for use on my ist D - I know I can check that myself just using it - but more input would be nice too. In other words, I might sell it if it is desireable but not super great... is it better than my 18-55 kit lens at comperable focal lengths? about the film -- is there a place to go on the web to put in the bar code number to find out how old the film is? Thanks in advance, gang ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-1000 (film), 35-80 zoom, Kodak gold film, questions but maybe for sale
From: Ann Sanfedele On 7/10/2011 14:55, steve harley wrote: On 2011-07-10 11:23 , Ann Sanfedele wrote: The other is for opinions on the 35-80 zoom for use on my ist D - I know I can check that myself just using it - but more input would be nice too. In other words, I might sell it if it is desireable but not super great... is it better than my 18-55 kit lens at comperable focal lengths? you can get a good sense of it here (showing the whole list so you can see how the score compares) http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/category-SMC-Pentax-A-Zoom-Lenses.html only two disparate reviews, but the clincher for me is that it is the same optical design as the widely-disparaged F 35-80, of which: http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-F-35-80mm-F4-5.6-Zoom-Lens.html (a small minority really like it though) So i saw on Stans page that pj pointed me too.. ann I think the 35-80A lens was sold as a kit lens for the last of Pentax's manual focus cameras - ZX-M(?). According to the K-Mount Page, it looks like the A and the F had the same internal arrangement. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3755 - Release Date: 07/09/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-1000 (film), 35-80 zoom, Kodak gold film questions, but maybe for sale
Ann, I think there may be a such a code printed on the edge of the film, I was able to find this, but it seems to be only for movie film, and stops at 1966, and only works after the film has been developed. http://www.historicphotoarchive.com/f1/ekcode.html But there may be more information out there. On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On 7/10/2011 16:52, John Sessoms wrote: Ann Sanfedele Ok so I could not resist making a $29.95 purchase yesterday at my local Salvation army There in the display case in the front of the store was K-1000 with a pentax smc A 35-80 zoom. Guy behind counter asked me if I wanted the case it came in I said sure... The case turned out to be a pretty decent small camera bag which he just plopped the camera into and handed it to me. Well, inside there were 4 (24 exposure) rolls of Kodak Gold and a Canon sureshot 85zoom (hehe). Which is probably pretty much worthless. I'm torn between keeping the stuff and selling it. So here are my questions... The K-1000 is in mint condition but it is not an oldie... it is Assembled in China one thing I'd like to check is to see if the serial numbers are NOT on the stolen equipment list. I've forgotten how to do that... There used to be an online registry you could search for the camera serial number. A quick look just now indicates the domain is for sale, so the registry is probably defunct. Just because it's the Salvation Army, I would suspect it was not stolen; Usually true - but not a given in NY. Sorryt o hear that registry is gone. more likely something left behind by someone that ended up getting donated during a house-cleaning. Whoever had it didn't appreciate its value. Well according to the guy's comments so far, the lens is not such a prize. and the body, to be fair, isn't a golden oldy but a more recent vintage being assembled in China. If you had the box the film came in you could go by the expiration date. If the film has been exposed, I'd just take it to a mini-lab and get it processed to see if whatever is on it provides a clue when it was taken. I would suggest telling them it was film you found in the camera that you bought when you drop it off. It is all unexposed.. although the little Canon has film in it that may have some frames exposed... I'd jsut toss em.. but the battery is dead and I can't get the film out without a battery in it. Of course, I could shoot a roll myself , just for the sport. I THINK there is a code on the film itself that tells it's age - but I may be wrong. ann - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3755 - Release Date: 07/09/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-1000 (film), 35-80 zoom, Kodak gold film questions, but maybe for sale
Thanks, P.j. I found nothing on exposed Gold film that I had from 2002... I was hoping on one of our gang who actually worked in a photo store or something would just immediately know where to look on the web ann On 7/10/2011 21:05, p. j. alling wrote: Ann, I think there may be a such a code printed on the edge of the film, I was able to find this, but it seems to be only for movie film, and stops at 1966, and only works after the film has been developed. http://www.historicphotoarchive.com/f1/ekcode.html But there may be more information out there. On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Ann Sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On 7/10/2011 16:52, John Sessoms wrote: Ann Sanfedele Ok so I could not resist making a $29.95 purchase yesterday at my local Salvation army There in the display case in the front of the store was K-1000 with a pentax smc A 35-80 zoom. Guy behind counter asked me if I wanted the case it came in I said sure... The case turned out to be a pretty decent small camera bag which he just plopped the camera into and handed it to me. Well, inside there were 4 (24 exposure) rolls of Kodak Gold and a Canon sureshot 85zoom (hehe). Which is probably pretty much worthless. I'm torn between keeping the stuff and selling it. So here are my questions... The K-1000 is in mint condition but it is not an oldie... it is Assembled in China one thing I'd like to check is to see if the serial numbers are NOT on the stolen equipment list. I've forgotten how to do that... There used to be an online registry you could search for the camera serial number. A quick look just now indicates the domain is for sale, so the registry is probably defunct. Just because it's the Salvation Army, I would suspect it was not stolen; Usually true - but not a given in NY. Sorryt o hear that registry is gone. more likely something left behind by someone that ended up getting donated during a house-cleaning. Whoever had it didn't appreciate its value. Well according to the guy's comments so far, the lens is not such a prize. and the body, to be fair, isn't a golden oldy but a more recent vintage being assembled in China. If you had the box the film came in you could go by the expiration date. If the film has been exposed, I'd just take it to a mini-lab and get it processed to see if whatever is on it provides a clue when it was taken. I would suggest telling them it was film you found in the camera that you bought when you drop it off. It is all unexposed.. although the little Canon has film in it that may have some frames exposed... I'd jsut toss em.. but the battery is dead and I can't get the film out without a battery in it. Of course, I could shoot a roll myself , just for the sport. I THINK there is a code on the film itself that tells it's age - but I may be wrong. ann - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3755 - Release Date: 07/09/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.