Re: Re: Pentax Q preview
I think we all underestimate this as a sales tool. On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: I see the Q as just total play--therefore, I want one! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Re: Pentax Q preview Is this small or is it really small: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PENTAXQ/PENTAXQA.HTM Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Jul 13, 2011 00:25 Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: - Mensaje original - De: Carlos R. crls.p...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net CC: Enviado: miércoles 13 de julio de 2011 0:08 Asunto: Re: Pentax Q preview El 12/07/2011 23:59, Jaume Lahuerta escribió: Thanks Carlos, The body feel and ergonomics surpassed their expectations, but they are worried about the image quality that it will be able to achieve... Regards, Jaume Only time will tell, Jaume. You can't expect APS-C sensor quality, but sensors have been getting better all the time (see the K-5, when many people thought APS-C DSLRs couldn't improve their IQ), so I think it will better than many people think know. Carlos Sure Carlos, The problem is that sensor IQ evolve regardless of its size, so current small sensor IQ can be similar to older bigger sensor IQ, but it will always be worse than the current bigger ones. And I am afraid that this will be the comparison...even if the results are decent enough for many purposes, and I am sure they will. Regards, Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Pentax Q preview
IMO it will sell just fine. Pentax may not know as much as Canikon about AF and metering but they've proven quite some marketing instinct lately! 2011/7/14 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com: I think we all underestimate this as a sales tool. On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: I see the Q as just total play--therefore, I want one! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Re: Pentax Q preview Is this small or is it really small: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PENTAXQ/PENTAXQA.HTM Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Jul 13, 2011 00:25 Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: - Mensaje original - De: Carlos R. crls.p...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net CC: Enviado: miércoles 13 de julio de 2011 0:08 Asunto: Re: Pentax Q preview El 12/07/2011 23:59, Jaume Lahuerta escribió: Thanks Carlos, The body feel and ergonomics surpassed their expectations, but they are worried about the image quality that it will be able to achieve... Regards, Jaume Only time will tell, Jaume. You can't expect APS-C sensor quality, but sensors have been getting better all the time (see the K-5, when many people thought APS-C DSLRs couldn't improve their IQ), so I think it will better than many people think know. Carlos Sure Carlos, The problem is that sensor IQ evolve regardless of its size, so current small sensor IQ can be similar to older bigger sensor IQ, but it will always be worse than the current bigger ones. And I am afraid that this will be the comparison...even if the results are decent enough for many purposes, and I am sure they will. Regards, Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Q preview
I think good enough IQ is a reasonable goal for many cameras. We on this list are not representative on this issue. There was always the feeling that APS-C was a stepping stone to the ultimate FF cameras, but in reality APS-C is the new standard and FF is what medium format used to be. Smaller cameras like the CSCs have already gotten a reasonable chunk of market share mostly because they are smaller. My wife has an Optio with the same sensor as the Q and I'm often amazed at how good the IQ can be. There is clearly a market for the finely made pocket camera and the Q will always have the size advantage, which may be nearly as important as IQ for some. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: - Mensaje original - De: Carlos R. crls.p...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net CC: Enviado: miércoles 13 de julio de 2011 0:08 Asunto: Re: Pentax Q preview El 12/07/2011 23:59, Jaume Lahuerta escribió: Thanks Carlos, The body feel and ergonomics surpassed their expectations, but they are worried about the image quality that it will be able to achieve... Regards, Jaume Only time will tell, Jaume. You can't expect APS-C sensor quality, but sensors have been getting better all the time (see the K-5, when many people thought APS-C DSLRs couldn't improve their IQ), so I think it will better than many people think know. Carlos Sure Carlos, The problem is that sensor IQ evolve regardless of its size, so current small sensor IQ can be similar to older bigger sensor IQ, but it will always be worse than the current bigger ones. And I am afraid that this will be the comparison...even if the results are decent enough for many purposes, and I am sure they will. Regards, Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pentax Q preview
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 2:26 PM There is clearly a market for the finely made pocket camera and the Q will always have the size advantage, which may be nearly as important as IQ for some. Now if they make a massive 15mm/f0.75 lens for it, count me in. I have a weird fascination with the Sony NEX that this would satisfy perfectly. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm not a strict advocate of the lomography approach, but I appreciate the spirit. Always carry a small camera with sufficient IQ that is always at the ready. I have a pixel peeper personality but that's because I've always taken mainly macros and stills. If I lived in an urban environment I might be all over this camera. The only real thing I would miss is the upper end of the iso scale, but I also grew up thinking 80 was impossibly fast. Hey Frank, what do you think about all this? You've always been a get the shot and hope the IQ is good enough kind of guy and you've made that work in a most admirable way over the years. As an archetypal lomographer, I could see you as the perfect test pilot for a Q. Of course, I don't make those decisions for the corporation. ;-) On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:32 AM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: LOL. It is a fascinating look, small body with a fat lens. Freud is rolling in his grave. On , Krisjanis Linkevics krisjanis.linkev...@exigenservices.com wrote: Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 2:26 PM There is clearly a market for the finely made pocket camera and the Q will always have the size advantage, which may be nearly as important as IQ for some. Now if they make a massive 15mm/f0.75 lens for it, count me in. I have a weird fascination with the Sony NEX that this would satisfy perfectly. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Pentax Q preview
I see the Q as just total play--therefore, I want one! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Re: Pentax Q preview Is this small or is it really small: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PENTAXQ/PENTAXQA.HTM Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Jul 13, 2011 00:25 Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: - Mensaje original - De: Carlos R. crls.p...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net CC: Enviado: miércoles 13 de julio de 2011 0:08 Asunto: Re: Pentax Q preview El 12/07/2011 23:59, Jaume Lahuerta escribió: Thanks Carlos, The body feel and ergonomics surpassed their expectations, but they are worried about the image quality that it will be able to achieve... Regards, Jaume Only time will tell, Jaume. You can't expect APS-C sensor quality, but sensors have been getting better all the time (see the K-5, when many people thought APS-C DSLRs couldn't improve their IQ), so I think it will better than many people think know. Carlos Sure Carlos, The problem is that sensor IQ evolve regardless of its size, so current small sensor IQ can be similar to older bigger sensor IQ, but it will always be worse than the current bigger ones. And I am afraid that this will be the comparison...even if the results are decent enough for many purposes, and I am sure they will. Regards, Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax Q preview
The Spanish site Quesabesde has just published a hands-on preview of the Q. There is a lot of info, and even a video, but no samples so far (it is a preproduction unit). Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax Q preview
Oops, I forgot to include a link. Here it goes: http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/pentax-q-analisis-fotos-video,1_7779 The Spanish site Quesabesde has just published a hands-on preview of the Q. There is a lot of info, and even a video, but no samples so far (it is a preproduction unit). Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Q preview
It looks so small next to the Kr. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Carlos R. crls.p...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, I forgot to include a link. Here it goes: http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/pentax-q-analisis-fotos-video,1_7779 The Spanish site Quesabesde has just published a hands-on preview of the Q. There is a lot of info, and even a video, but no samples so far (it is a preproduction unit). Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Q preview
What's the camera between it and the K-r in the group shot? On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 02:46:35PM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote: It looks so small next to the Kr. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Carlos R. crls.p...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, I forgot to include a link. Here it goes: http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/pentax-q-analisis-fotos-video,1_7779 The Spanish site Quesabesde has just published a hands-on preview of the Q. There is a lot of info, and even a video, but no samples so far (it is a preproduction unit). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Q preview
it is damnably cute. a fascinating little miniature. i have no need or desire for it, but I expect that there will be a niche following that loves it, even if most of the rest of the photographic world doesn't see the point. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It looks so small next to the Kr. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Carlos R. crls.p...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, I forgot to include a link. Here it goes: http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/pentax-q-analisis-fotos-video,1_7779 The Spanish site Quesabesde has just published a hands-on preview of the Q. There is a lot of info, and even a video, but no samples so far (it is a preproduction unit). Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Q preview
The X70, the bridge camera? On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:38 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: What's the camera between it and the K-r in the group shot? On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 02:46:35PM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote: It looks so small next to the Kr. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Carlos R. crls.p...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, I forgot to include a link. Here it goes: http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/pentax-q-analisis-fotos-video,1_7779 The Spanish site Quesabesde has just published a hands-on preview of the Q. There is a lot of info, and even a video, but no samples so far (it is a preproduction unit). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Q preview
Thanks Carlos, The body feel and ergonomics surpassed their expectations, but they are worried about the image quality that it will be able to achieve... Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original - De: Carlos R. crls.p...@gmail.com Para: PDML pdml@pdml.net CC: Enviado: martes 12 de julio de 2011 20:01 Asunto: Pentax Q preview Oops, I forgot to include a link. Here it goes: http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/pentax-q-analisis-fotos-video,1_7779 The Spanish site Quesabesde has just published a hands-on preview of the Q. There is a lot of info, and even a video, but no samples so far (it is a preproduction unit). Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Q preview
El 12/07/2011 23:59, Jaume Lahuerta escribió: Thanks Carlos, The body feel and ergonomics surpassed their expectations, but they are worried about the image quality that it will be able to achieve... Regards, Jaume Only time will tell, Jaume. You can't expect APS-C sensor quality, but sensors have been getting better all the time (see the K-5, when many people thought APS-C DSLRs couldn't improve their IQ), so I think it will better than many people think know. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Q preview
- Mensaje original - De: Carlos R. crls.p...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net CC: Enviado: miércoles 13 de julio de 2011 0:08 Asunto: Re: Pentax Q preview El 12/07/2011 23:59, Jaume Lahuerta escribió: Thanks Carlos, The body feel and ergonomics surpassed their expectations, but they are worried about the image quality that it will be able to achieve... Regards, Jaume Only time will tell, Jaume. You can't expect APS-C sensor quality, but sensors have been getting better all the time (see the K-5, when many people thought APS-C DSLRs couldn't improve their IQ), so I think it will better than many people think know. Carlos Sure Carlos, The problem is that sensor IQ evolve regardless of its size, so current small sensor IQ can be similar to older bigger sensor IQ, but it will always be worse than the current bigger ones. And I am afraid that this will be the comparison...even if the results are decent enough for many purposes, and I am sure they will. Regards, Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Pentax Q preview
Is this small or is it really small: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PENTAXQ/PENTAXQA.HTM Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Jul 13, 2011 00:25 Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: - Mensaje original - De: Carlos R. crls.p...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net CC: Enviado: miércoles 13 de julio de 2011 0:08 Asunto: Re: Pentax Q preview El 12/07/2011 23:59, Jaume Lahuerta escribió: Thanks Carlos, The body feel and ergonomics surpassed their expectations, but they are worried about the image quality that it will be able to achieve... Regards, Jaume Only time will tell, Jaume. You can't expect APS-C sensor quality, but sensors have been getting better all the time (see the K-5, when many people thought APS-C DSLRs couldn't improve their IQ), so I think it will better than many people think know. Carlos Sure Carlos, The problem is that sensor IQ evolve regardless of its size, so current small sensor IQ can be similar to older bigger sensor IQ, but it will always be worse than the current bigger ones. And I am afraid that this will be the comparison...even if the results are decent enough for many purposes, and I am sure they will. Regards, Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
