Re: Peso: 50 gray shades

2015-03-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Thanks, Mark!

ann

On 3/2/2015 20:14, Mark C wrote:

LOL - love it!

On 3/1/2015 11:16 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


This is the photo I posted earlier.. but there seems to have been a
couple of problems and perhaps i was also being too subtle

for technical reasons, I changed the style of the gallery 2015 and
all that to journal style.. thinking this might display better for
people looking at it with one of those damned mobile devices... and
might work for someone in particular who couldnt see my smugmug stuff
at all.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/

Anyway - these are the only 50 Shades of Gray I've seen.

The photo is on my facebook timeline too

I don't know if I can get away with it as an image on cafe press or
the copyright police will keep me from the parody as they did with the
got milkweed? design. -- I'll give it a try


ann
annsan.smugmug.com




---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus
protection is active.
http://www.avast.com




--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Peso: 50 gray shades

2015-03-02 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 2 Mar 2015, at 23:48, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The record will show that Ann has achieved a pun that (at least
 initially) went over the collective heads of the PDML. For that

Not over the 50 heads of grey, I can assure you.

B

 accomplishment alone, we salute you.
 The image is also very nice, on its own!
 :)
 
 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:49 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
 On 3/2/2015 11:07 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
 
 
 On 3/2/2015 10:27, Rick Womer wrote:
 
 I like both the photo and the pun!
 
 Is it still the case that posting a photo on Facebook grants them the
 copyright?
 
 Rick
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
 ann replies...
 Thanks, Rick!
 Yikes - don't think so if I have only posted to friends. on this one I
 didnt slap my watermark...
 I usually do, but it is in the metadata.
 
 However the copyright that is of more concern is being unable to use the
 image on cafepress... unless I totally avoid the obvious keywords
 
 And then my old friend, Scrabble champ GI Joel Sherman , just wrote and
 playfully pointed out that I blew it.. there are actually 52 in the
 photo...
 
 ann
 
 
 I wasn't going to mention that.
 
 
 
 
 --
 Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
 Religion - Answers we must never question.
 
 
 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.
 
 
 
 -- 
 Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh.
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Peso: 50 gray shades

2015-03-02 Thread Mark C

LOL - love it!

On 3/1/2015 11:16 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


This is the photo I posted earlier.. but there seems to have been a 
couple of problems and perhaps i was also being too subtle


for technical reasons, I changed the style of the gallery 2015 and 
all that to journal style.. thinking this might display better for 
people looking at it with one of those damned mobile devices... and 
might work for someone in particular who couldnt see my smugmug stuff 
at all.


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/

Anyway - these are the only 50 Shades of Gray I've seen.

The photo is on my facebook timeline too

I don't know if I can get away with it as an image on cafe press or
the copyright police will keep me from the parody as they did with the
got milkweed? design. -- I'll give it a try


ann
annsan.smugmug.com




---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Peso: 50 gray shades

2015-03-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
Posting a photo on Facebook doesn't transfer the copyright. It merely gives 
Facebook the right to use it, which they almost never do. You retain your 
copyright for all other purposes.

Paul via phone

 On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The record will show that Ann has achieved a pun that (at least
 initially) went over the collective heads of the PDML. For that
 accomplishment alone, we salute you.
 The image is also very nice, on its own!
 :)
 
 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:49 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
 On 3/2/2015 11:07 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
 
 
 On 3/2/2015 10:27, Rick Womer wrote:
 
 I like both the photo and the pun!
 
 Is it still the case that posting a photo on Facebook grants them the
 copyright?
 
 Rick
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
 ann replies...
 Thanks, Rick!
 Yikes - don't think so if I have only posted to friends. on this one I
 didnt slap my watermark...
 I usually do, but it is in the metadata.
 
 However the copyright that is of more concern is being unable to use the
 image on cafepress... unless I totally avoid the obvious keywords
 
 And then my old friend, Scrabble champ GI Joel Sherman , just wrote and
 playfully pointed out that I blew it.. there are actually 52 in the
 photo...
 
 ann
 
 I wasn't going to mention that.
 
 
 
 
 --
 Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
 Religion - Answers we must never question.
 
 
 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.
 
 
 
 -- 
 Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh.
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Peso: 50 gray shades

2015-03-02 Thread Darren Addy
The record will show that Ann has achieved a pun that (at least
initially) went over the collective heads of the PDML. For that
accomplishment alone, we salute you.
The image is also very nice, on its own!
:)

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:49 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
 On 3/2/2015 11:07 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



 On 3/2/2015 10:27, Rick Womer wrote:

 I like both the photo and the pun!

 Is it still the case that posting a photo on Facebook grants them the
 copyright?

 Rick
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


 ann replies...
 Thanks, Rick!
 Yikes - don't think so if I have only posted to friends. on this one I
 didnt slap my watermark...
 I usually do, but it is in the metadata.

 However the copyright that is of more concern is being unable to use the
 image on cafepress... unless I totally avoid the obvious keywords

 And then my old friend, Scrabble champ GI Joel Sherman , just wrote and
 playfully pointed out that I blew it.. there are actually 52 in the
 photo...

 ann


 I wasn't going to mention that.




 --
 Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
 Religion - Answers we must never question.


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.



-- 
Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Peso: 50 gray shades

2015-03-02 Thread Rick Womer
I like both the photo and the pun!

Is it still the case that posting a photo on Facebook grants them the copyright?

Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 I was attempting to use my cell, watch TV and relate to my wife and not doing 
 any of it well.
 I had seen the attachment to this post and was suggesting the same post in 
 color would perhaps
 work even better as the colors might add to the intensity.
 I still feel that recropping and straightening the display would help it.
 I allow that the two (BW and color) are the same. I originally thought 
 otherwise.
 Jack

 - Original Message -
 From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 8:16:18 PM
 Subject: Peso: 50 gray shades


 This is the photo I posted earlier.. but there seems to have been a
 couple of problems and perhaps i was also being too subtle

 for technical reasons, I changed the style of the gallery 2015 and all
 that to journal style.. thinking this might display better for people
 looking at it with one of those damned mobile devices... and might work
 for someone in particular who couldnt see my smugmug stuff at all.

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/

 Anyway - these are the only 50 Shades of Gray I've seen.

 The photo is on my facebook timeline too

 I don't know if I can get away with it as an image on cafe press or
 the copyright police will keep me from the parody as they did with the
 got milkweed? design. -- I'll give it a try


 ann
 annsan.smugmug.com

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Peso: 50 gray shades

2015-03-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele
well good news here on two fronts... There are actually 52 shades in the 
photo and so I called the image 52 gray shades added my tiny

copyright on the photo I loaded on cafepress and even called them to
run it by them - the tech helper was sure I wouldn't have any hassles
about it  - it wasn't the photo, of course, it was the tagging and title
that I was concerned about... Meanwhile, cafepress gal thought it was 
funny and got it right away.


So all is right with the world..
Thanks for the detail on the facebook copyright stuff.

ann

On 3/2/2015 11:50, Mark Roberts wrote:

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

On 3/2/2015 10:27, Rick Womer wrote:

I like both the photo and the pun!

Is it still the case that posting a photo on Facebook grants them the copyright?


Thanks, Rick!
Yikes - don't think so if I have only posted to friends. on this one I
didnt slap my watermark...
I usually do, but it is in the metadata.

However the copyright that is of more concern is being unable to use the
image on cafepress... unless I totally avoid the obvious keywords


Copyright isn't an all-or-nothing thing. Posting on Facebook doesn't
take away any of your rights to use or sell the photo. It gives them
the rights to display it and use it in any medium to promote Facebook.
Technically, they also have the right to sub-license your images to
any third party they want, but that's just a CYA to allow them to put
it on Akamai or other Content Delivery Network whose servers they use
to take load of Facebook's own servers.

At the present time, you just have to remove your photo from Facebook
and they lose these rights (in 30 days, IIRC, to allow for latency
issues with third-party CDN's).

Also, as far as I know, Facebook removes the metadata from uploaded
images, so that's a moot point.




--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Peso: 50 gray shades

2015-03-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
On 3/2/2015 10:27, Rick Womer wrote:
 I like both the photo and the pun!

 Is it still the case that posting a photo on Facebook grants them the 
 copyright?

Thanks, Rick!
Yikes - don't think so if I have only posted to friends. on this one I 
didnt slap my watermark...
I usually do, but it is in the metadata.

However the copyright that is of more concern is being unable to use the
image on cafepress... unless I totally avoid the obvious keywords

Copyright isn't an all-or-nothing thing. Posting on Facebook doesn't
take away any of your rights to use or sell the photo. It gives them
the rights to display it and use it in any medium to promote Facebook.
Technically, they also have the right to sub-license your images to
any third party they want, but that's just a CYA to allow them to put
it on Akamai or other Content Delivery Network whose servers they use
to take load of Facebook's own servers. 

At the present time, you just have to remove your photo from Facebook
and they lose these rights (in 30 days, IIRC, to allow for latency
issues with third-party CDN's).

Also, as far as I know, Facebook removes the metadata from uploaded
images, so that's a moot point.
 
-- 
Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
www.robertstech.com





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Peso: 50 gray shades

2015-03-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 3/2/2015 10:27, Rick Womer wrote:

I like both the photo and the pun!

Is it still the case that posting a photo on Facebook grants them the copyright?

Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


ann replies...
Thanks, Rick!
Yikes - don't think so if I have only posted to friends. on this one I 
didnt slap my watermark...

I usually do, but it is in the metadata.

However the copyright that is of more concern is being unable to use the
image on cafepress... unless I totally avoid the obvious keywords

And then my old friend, Scrabble champ GI Joel Sherman , just wrote and
playfully pointed out that I blew it.. there are actually 52 in the photo...

ann






On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:

I was attempting to use my cell, watch TV and relate to my wife and not doing 
any of it well.
I had seen the attachment to this post and was suggesting the same post in 
color would perhaps
work even better as the colors might add to the intensity.
I still feel that recropping and straightening the display would help it.
I allow that the two (BW and color) are the same. I originally thought 
otherwise.
Jack

- Original Message -
From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 8:16:18 PM
Subject: Peso: 50 gray shades


This is the photo I posted earlier.. but there seems to have been a
couple of problems and perhaps i was also being too subtle

for technical reasons, I changed the style of the gallery 2015 and all
that to journal style.. thinking this might display better for people
looking at it with one of those damned mobile devices... and might work
for someone in particular who couldnt see my smugmug stuff at all.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/

Anyway - these are the only 50 Shades of Gray I've seen.

The photo is on my facebook timeline too

I don't know if I can get away with it as an image on cafe press or
the copyright police will keep me from the parody as they did with the
got milkweed? design. -- I'll give it a try


ann
annsan.smugmug.com

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.




--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Peso: 50 gray shades

2015-03-02 Thread John

On 3/2/2015 11:07 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 3/2/2015 10:27, Rick Womer wrote:

I like both the photo and the pun!

Is it still the case that posting a photo on Facebook grants them the
copyright?

Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


ann replies...
Thanks, Rick!
Yikes - don't think so if I have only posted to friends. on this one I
didnt slap my watermark...
I usually do, but it is in the metadata.

However the copyright that is of more concern is being unable to use the
image on cafepress... unless I totally avoid the obvious keywords

And then my old friend, Scrabble champ GI Joel Sherman , just wrote and
playfully pointed out that I blew it.. there are actually 52 in the
photo...

ann



I wasn't going to mention that.




--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Peso: 50 gray shades

2015-03-01 Thread Ann Sanfedele


This is the photo I posted earlier.. but there seems to have been a 
couple of problems and perhaps i was also being too subtle


for technical reasons, I changed the style of the gallery 2015 and all 
that to journal style.. thinking this might display better for people 
looking at it with one of those damned mobile devices... and might work 
for someone in particular who couldnt see my smugmug stuff at all.


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/

Anyway - these are the only 50 Shades of Gray I've seen.

The photo is on my facebook timeline too

I don't know if I can get away with it as an image on cafe press or
the copyright police will keep me from the parody as they did with the
got milkweed? design. -- I'll give it a try


ann
annsan.smugmug.com

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Peso: 50 gray shades

2015-03-01 Thread Jack Davis
I was attempting to use my cell, watch TV and relate to my wife and not doing 
any of it well.
I had seen the attachment to this post and was suggesting the same post in 
color would perhaps
work even better as the colors might add to the intensity.
I still feel that recropping and straightening the display would help it.
I allow that the two (BW and color) are the same. I originally thought 
otherwise.
Jack

- Original Message -
From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 8:16:18 PM
Subject: Peso: 50 gray shades


This is the photo I posted earlier.. but there seems to have been a 
couple of problems and perhaps i was also being too subtle

for technical reasons, I changed the style of the gallery 2015 and all 
that to journal style.. thinking this might display better for people 
looking at it with one of those damned mobile devices... and might work 
for someone in particular who couldnt see my smugmug stuff at all.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/

Anyway - these are the only 50 Shades of Gray I've seen.

The photo is on my facebook timeline too

I don't know if I can get away with it as an image on cafe press or
the copyright police will keep me from the parody as they did with the
got milkweed? design. -- I'll give it a try


ann
annsan.smugmug.com

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.