Problem w/ Super Program
Just got a new Super Program off of ebay and it's got a problem- shutter appears to be working properly, but the mirror seems to "stick," not returning right away and making quite a bit of racket when it finally drops back down. Any idea what the fix might be? Looks like this camera is going in for a CLA. :-( Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Problem w/ Super Program
> Just got a new Super Program off of ebay and it's got a problem- > [snip] Looks like this camera is going in for a CLA. :-( Shouldn't it be going back to the seller, instead? Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Problem w/ Super Program
Got a question for you all about this- if you buy a camera off of ebay, what has been your experience on returning the camera if everything's not kosher? It would be nice if people used some sort of standard inspection/testing period like they do w/ wristwatches. I'll see what the seller has to say in the meantime. Taka -Original Message- > Just got a new Super Program off of ebay and it's got a problem- > [snip] Looks like this camera is going in for a CLA. :-( Shouldn't it be going back to the seller, instead? Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Problem w/ Super Program
Taka, Send the camera back. I bought a KX that was described as in excellent condition. When I got it, I noticed that the mirror lock-up was going to about 90% open and the film winding was very 'loose'. I sent it back as not excellent condition...it wasn't. The seller said 'Oh' and sent me my money back, less shipping. If it was described as anything but 'AS IS', send it back! Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Got a question for you all about this- if you buy a camera off of ebay, what has been your experience on returning the camera if everything's not kosher? It would be nice if people used some sort of standard inspection/testing period like they do w/ wristwatches. I'll see what the seller has to say in the meantime. Taka >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Problem w/ Super Program
This is a question you ask each seller BEFORE you "win" the auction. Cory Waters whose first Ebay buy was a 100mm lens in Cannon mount :( because he didn't ask. - Original Message - From: "TM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 8:55 AM Subject: RE: Problem w/ Super Program > Got a question for you all about this- if you buy a camera off of ebay, > what has been your experience on returning the camera if everything's > not > kosher? > > It would be nice if people used some sort of standard inspection/testing > period like they do w/ wristwatches. I'll see what the seller has to say > in the meantime. > > Taka > > > -Original Message- > > Just got a new Super Program off of ebay and it's got a problem- > > [snip] Looks like this camera is going in for a CLA. :-( > > Shouldn't it be going back to the seller, instead? > > Fred > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Possible solution to problem w/ Super Program- need advice
OK, here's the deal: I bought a Super Program off of ebay, advertised as in excellent condition. Camera arrives in a box that is a bit small, has a small dent in the bottom plate, don't know whether that was from shipping or not. Camera looks okay externally, but when I remove the lens, guess what? Of course, the mirror foam is all deteriorated and sticking to the mirror. Testing by shooting several frames makes it worse. Obviously, the camera needs CLA. Talk to the seller, he says the camera is in excellent condition- I send him digital photos of the camera's dent and the mirror foam. He offers to contribute towards the cost of CLA. I think other than the mirror foam, the camera looks pretty good. The A50/2.0 is worthless- aperture doesn't look hexagonal when stopped down- nearly pentagonal as one of the blades isn't stopping down properly. For $120, I guess I can't ask for too much, but is this a fair resolution, provided the seller gives me $60 back towards CLA? I think it's fair, any suggestions for a counteroffer if he rejects this proposal? Without PDML, I'd totally be up the creek w/ this deal- thanks again to all. Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Possible solution to problem w/ Super Program- need advice
Taka, Take the camera to a repair person and get an estimate on the spot. Have this amount as a negotiating point. You are already out the $10 or so shipping involved. $120 would be just fine for a CLA'ed Super Program. Much more is not such a good deal. Repairing the A50/2 is probably not worthwhile. Did you buy this from a southern climate? Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << OK, here's the deal: I bought a Super Program off of ebay, advertised as in excellent condition. Camera arrives in a box that is a bit small, has a small dent in the bottom plate, don't know whether that was from shipping or not. Camera looks okay externally, but when I remove the lens, guess what? Of course, the mirror foam is all deteriorated and sticking to the mirror. Testing by shooting several frames makes it worse. Obviously, the camera needs CLA. Talk to the seller, he says the camera is in excellent condition- I send him digital photos of the camera's dent and the mirror foam. He offers to contribute towards the cost of CLA. I think other than the mirror foam, the camera looks pretty good. The A50/2.0 is worthless- aperture doesn't look hexagonal when stopped down- nearly pentagonal as one of the blades isn't stopping down properly. For $120, I guess I can't ask for too much, but is this a fair resolution, provided the seller gives me $60 back towards CLA? I think it's fair, any suggestions for a counteroffer if he rejects this proposal? Without PDML, I'd totally be up the creek w/ this deal- thanks again to all. Taka >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Possible solution to problem w/ Super Program- need advice
Bob- I already have an estimate, from Essex Camera, from their website. Granted, it's not _exact_ based on standard CLA, but that's where I plan on having it serviced anyway. I'm kind of at the seller's mercy, because worst case, all I can do is file a dispute w/ PayPal and Ebay and return the camera. I'm not planning on repairing the lens. Camera is from SoCal. If I can get half of the CLA cost, that would make it a $180 Super Program, which is still less than what I can get one for from KEH or elsewhere and other than the mirror foam, it really does look to be in nice condition. Not as nice as my Super A, which was bought new and hardly used, but still quite nice. Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Possible solution to problem w/ Super Program- need advice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Taka, > Take the camera to a repair person and get an estimate on the spot. Have > this amount as a negotiating point. You are already out the $10 or so > shipping involved. $120 would be just fine for a CLA'ed Super Program. Much > more is not such a good deal. Repairing the A50/2 is probably not > worthwhile. ah - the "joys of Ebay" strike again - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Possible solution to problem w/ Super Program- need advice
If I were you I would tell the seller you are returning the camera. Sounds like he was dead wrong about the condition and that is his problem, it shouldn't be yours. This has happened to me once buying a camera through an Ebay auction. I bought a "needs repair" ME Super with a 50mm f1.4 M lens described as "in great condition"(I wanted the lens). I received a DOA ME Super as expected only it came with a fungus infested lens. I e-mailed the seller immediately and told him how disappointed I was. I had sent him $90.00 for junk. He refunded my money and apologized profusely. I ate shipping(about $12.00) and we left positive feedback for one another. Be nice yet direct. If this doesn't work out you can try to resolve the dispute through Ebay. Get your money back... there are deals to be had on SuperPrograms quite often. BTW I got a deal last summer from KEH...SuperProgram with 50mm f2.0 lens in excellent condition for $149.00. Robert >From: "TM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Possible solution to problem w/ Super Program- need advice >Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 19:49:57 -0400 > >OK, here's the deal: > >I bought a Super Program off of ebay, advertised as in excellent >condition. > >Camera arrives in a box that is a bit small, has a small dent in the >bottom >plate, don't know whether that was from shipping or not. Camera looks >okay >externally, but when I remove the lens, guess what? Of course, the >mirror foam >is all deteriorated and sticking to the mirror. Testing by shooting >several >frames makes it worse. Obviously, the camera needs CLA. > >Talk to the seller, he says the camera is in excellent condition- I send >him >digital photos of the camera's dent and the mirror foam. > >He offers to contribute towards the cost of CLA. > >I think other than the mirror foam, the camera looks pretty good. The >A50/2.0 >is worthless- aperture doesn't look hexagonal when stopped down- nearly >pentagonal >as one of the blades isn't stopping down properly. > >For $120, I guess I can't ask for too much, but is this a fair >resolution, provided >the seller gives me $60 back towards CLA? I think it's fair, any >suggestions for a >counteroffer if he rejects this proposal? > >Without PDML, I'd totally be up the creek w/ this deal- thanks again to >all. > >Taka >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Possible solution to problem w/ Super Program- need advice
Robert- Thanks for the advice. The camera besides the foam looks good and it seems to work well otherwise, that's why I'm hesitant to just give up on the whole thing. The lens being junk doesn't really bother me, because I don't really need a 50/2.0 anyway. If this is a fatal flaw in an ebay transaction, I guess I just don't have enough experience buying camera stuff through ebay- KEH quotes $35 for a simple cleaning and foam replacement. If the seller is willing to cover that, I might go ahead and do it, becuase pretty much any camera getting to this age could use a cleaning anyway. That's my take on the whole thing. If he's unwilling to do that, I'm going to demand that he accept a return and I'll ship it back to him, eat the shipping and leave a positive feedback. Taka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert Woerner Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 9:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Possible solution to problem w/ Super Program- need advice If I were you I would tell the seller you are returning the camera. Sounds like he was dead wrong about the condition and that is his problem, it shouldn't be yours. This has happened to me once buying a camera through an Ebay auction. I bought a "needs repair" ME Super with a 50mm f1.4 M lens described as "in great condition"(I wanted the lens). I received a DOA ME Super as expected only it came with a fungus infested lens. I e-mailed the seller immediately and told him how disappointed I was. I had sent him $90.00 for junk. He refunded my money and apologized profusely. I ate shipping(about $12.00) and we left positive feedback for one another. Be nice yet direct. If this doesn't work out you can try to resolve the dispute through Ebay. Get your money back... there are deals to be had on SuperPrograms quite often. BTW I got a deal last summer from KEH...SuperProgram with 50mm f2.0 lens in excellent condition for $149.00. Robert >From: "TM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Possible solution to problem w/ Super Program- need advice >Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 19:49:57 -0400 > >OK, here's the deal: > >I bought a Super Program off of ebay, advertised as in excellent >condition. > >Camera arrives in a box that is a bit small, has a small dent in the >bottom plate, don't know whether that was from shipping or not. Camera >looks okay >externally, but when I remove the lens, guess what? Of course, the >mirror foam >is all deteriorated and sticking to the mirror. Testing by shooting >several >frames makes it worse. Obviously, the camera needs CLA. > >Talk to the seller, he says the camera is in excellent condition- I >send him digital photos of the camera's dent and the mirror foam. > >He offers to contribute towards the cost of CLA. > >I think other than the mirror foam, the camera looks pretty good. The >A50/2.0 is worthless- aperture doesn't look hexagonal when stopped >down- nearly pentagonal >as one of the blades isn't stopping down properly. > >For $120, I guess I can't ask for too much, but is this a fair >resolution, provided the seller gives me $60 back towards CLA? I think >it's fair, any suggestions for a >counteroffer if he rejects this proposal? > >Without PDML, I'd totally be up the creek w/ this deal- thanks again to >all. > >Taka >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go >to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit >the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
