Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-22 Thread Ken Takeshita
On 9/21/06, Douglas Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I just hope the prices on the three DA* lenses aren't
> TOO exorbitant... I really, really want a K10D and DA*
> 16-50mm!

Price of new DA*s.
I do not think it is "exhorbitant", not as expensive as some of the
competitors', but am holding my breath.
Those USM (SDM) lenses are dust/drip proof.  For this reason, I am
hoping that they are of an IF design, like FA*80-200.  Even if not,m
extended barrel won't be so wobbly because of USM & dust/drip proof.

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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-21 Thread David Savage
Considering that they're DFA, I expect it will be a similar situation
to the DFA 50 & 100mm f2.8 macros. "Optimised for digital" FA
versions.

Probably based on the FA 200mm f2.8 & FA 300mm f4.5 (Though I would
prefer the f2.8 version)

Dave

On 9/21/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's my hope. And at least at f1.4, maybe even a 1.2.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> John Forbes wrote:
> > It is interesting that the 200 and 300 lenses are D FA, not DA.  Pity no
> > apertures are noted for the later lenses.  The 55mm harks back to Takumar
> > days, and might perhaps become a portrait lens to rival the 85mm lenses.

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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-21 Thread Michael Hamilton
On 21-Sep-06, at 2:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

> Scott Loveless wrote:
>> On 9/21/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, it makes perfect sense to me. How many normal zooms  
>>> were in
>>> the FA line? People want options there, so they can get the lens  
>>> they
>>> want. You had the FA-J 28-80 (18-55), FA 28-70/4 (16-45), FA*  
>>> 28-70/2.8
>>> (16-50), FA 28-105 (17-70), FA 24-90 and the FA 28-200. The  
>>> latter two
>>> haven't been replaced yet (Although I don't expect the 24-90 to  
>>> be, but
>>> I do expect a 18-200 at some point).
>>>
>>
>>
>> You forgot everyone's favorite: the FA 28-90!
>
> 28-90? Didn't even know one existed. But if that's a kit lens (and it
> looks it) the 18-55 is sortof it's replacement (being not quite as  
> long).

The 18-55 is about 5 steps up from the 28-90.  It's at least got a  
metal mount...

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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-21 Thread Adam Maas
Scott Loveless wrote:
> On 9/21/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>Actually, it makes perfect sense to me. How many normal zooms were in
>>the FA line? People want options there, so they can get the lens they
>>want. You had the FA-J 28-80 (18-55), FA 28-70/4 (16-45), FA* 28-70/2.8
>>(16-50), FA 28-105 (17-70), FA 24-90 and the FA 28-200. The latter two
>>haven't been replaced yet (Although I don't expect the 24-90 to be, but
>>I do expect a 18-200 at some point).
>>
> 
> 
> You forgot everyone's favorite: the FA 28-90!

28-90? Didn't even know one existed. But if that's a kit lens (and it 
looks it) the 18-55 is sortof it's replacement (being not quite as long).

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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-21 Thread Adam Maas
Jens,

The 70mm f2.4 is from the old roadmap. We've known about it officially 
since February. New Doug would be talking about the NEW lenses.

-Adam


Jens Bladt wrote:
> The Limited 70mm F.2.4 is amazingly small (pancake). That's kinda
> interesting, isn't it?
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> 
> 
> Here is the 2007 lens roadmap in English:
> http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf
> 
> Aside from the three DA* zooms, I don't see anything
> particularly exciting.
> 
> The 17-70mm strikes me as particularly redundant... Do
> we really need another standard zoom on top of the
> 18-55, 16-45 and 16-50mm lenses?
> 
> Nonetheless, personally there is nothing not already
> announced that wouldn't fulfill my needs, though I
> wouldn't mind seeing the 12-24mm upgraded to DA* spec.
> 
> I just hope the prices on the three DA* lenses aren't
> TOO exorbitant... I really, really want a K10D and DA*
> 16-50mm!
> 
> New Doug
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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-21 Thread Scott Loveless
On 9/21/06, Michael Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 21-Sep-06, at 2:05 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
>
> > On 9/21/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Actually, it makes perfect sense to me. How many normal zooms were in
> >> the FA line? People want options there, so they can get the lens they
> >> want. You had the FA-J 28-80 (18-55), FA 28-70/4 (16-45), FA*
> >> 28-70/2.8
> >> (16-50), FA 28-105 (17-70), FA 24-90 and the FA 28-200. The latter
> >> two
> >> haven't been replaced yet (Although I don't expect the 24-90 to
> >> be, but
> >> I do expect a 18-200 at some point).
> >>
> >
> > You forgot everyone's favorite: the FA 28-90!
>
> Sounds like you want to buy mine, Scott!  It's for sale!
>

What a coincidence.  So is mine.  

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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-21 Thread Michael Hamilton

On 21-Sep-06, at 2:05 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:

> On 9/21/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Actually, it makes perfect sense to me. How many normal zooms were in
>> the FA line? People want options there, so they can get the lens they
>> want. You had the FA-J 28-80 (18-55), FA 28-70/4 (16-45), FA*  
>> 28-70/2.8
>> (16-50), FA 28-105 (17-70), FA 24-90 and the FA 28-200. The latter  
>> two
>> haven't been replaced yet (Although I don't expect the 24-90 to  
>> be, but
>> I do expect a 18-200 at some point).
>>
>
> You forgot everyone's favorite: the FA 28-90!

Sounds like you want to buy mine, Scott!  It's for sale!

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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-21 Thread Scott Loveless
On 9/21/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, it makes perfect sense to me. How many normal zooms were in
> the FA line? People want options there, so they can get the lens they
> want. You had the FA-J 28-80 (18-55), FA 28-70/4 (16-45), FA* 28-70/2.8
> (16-50), FA 28-105 (17-70), FA 24-90 and the FA 28-200. The latter two
> haven't been replaced yet (Although I don't expect the 24-90 to be, but
> I do expect a 18-200 at some point).
>

You forgot everyone's favorite: the FA 28-90!
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RE: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-21 Thread Jens Bladt
The Limited 70mm F.2.4 is amazingly small (pancake). That's kinda
interesting, isn't it?
Regards
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Here is the 2007 lens roadmap in English:
http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf

Aside from the three DA* zooms, I don't see anything
particularly exciting.

The 17-70mm strikes me as particularly redundant... Do
we really need another standard zoom on top of the
18-55, 16-45 and 16-50mm lenses?

Nonetheless, personally there is nothing not already
announced that wouldn't fulfill my needs, though I
wouldn't mind seeing the 12-24mm upgraded to DA* spec.

I just hope the prices on the three DA* lenses aren't
TOO exorbitant... I really, really want a K10D and DA*
16-50mm!

New Doug

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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-21 Thread Christian
Paul Stenquist wrote:
> I find the 200 and 300 DFA primes very exciting. I hope they're SSM.


finally a replacement for the FA* 300/4.5?  No! way!  H  so how 
much is my 20D and 300/4 IS worth on eBay HAR!  Just kidding!  Or am 
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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-21 Thread Adam Maas
Actually, it makes perfect sense to me. How many normal zooms were in 
the FA line? People want options there, so they can get the lens they 
want. You had the FA-J 28-80 (18-55), FA 28-70/4 (16-45), FA* 28-70/2.8 
(16-50), FA 28-105 (17-70), FA 24-90 and the FA 28-200. The latter two 
haven't been replaced yet (Although I don't expect the 24-90 to be, but 
I do expect a 18-200 at some point).

-Adam


Douglas Newman wrote:
> Here is the 2007 lens roadmap in English:
> http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf 
> 
> Aside from the three DA* zooms, I don't see anything
> particularly exciting.
> 
> The 17-70mm strikes me as particularly redundant... Do
> we really need another standard zoom on top of the
> 18-55, 16-45 and 16-50mm lenses?
> 
> Nonetheless, personally there is nothing not already
> announced that wouldn't fulfill my needs, though I
> wouldn't mind seeing the 12-24mm upgraded to DA* spec.
> 
> I just hope the prices on the three DA* lenses aren't
> TOO exorbitant... I really, really want a K10D and DA*
> 16-50mm!
> 
> New Doug
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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-21 Thread Adam Maas
That's my hope. And at least at f1.4, maybe even a 1.2.

-Adam


John Forbes wrote:
> It is interesting that the 200 and 300 lenses are D FA, not DA.  Pity no  
> apertures are noted for the later lenses.  The 55mm harks back to Takumar  
> days, and might perhaps become a portrait lens to rival the 85mm lenses.
> 
> John
> 
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 05:56:15 +0100, Digital Image Studio  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> On 21/09/06, Douglas Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Here is the 2007 lens roadmap in English:
>>> http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf
>>>
>>> Aside from the three DA* zooms, I don't see anything
>>> particularly exciting.
>> So we will have a 40, 43, 50, 55, where the hell is the 60mm?
>>
> 
> 
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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
I find the 200 and 300 DFA primes very exciting. I hope they're SSM.
Paul
On Sep 21, 2006, at 12:44 AM, Douglas Newman wrote:

> Here is the 2007 lens roadmap in English:
> http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf
>
> Aside from the three DA* zooms, I don't see anything
> particularly exciting.
>
> The 17-70mm strikes me as particularly redundant... Do
> we really need another standard zoom on top of the
> 18-55, 16-45 and 16-50mm lenses?
>
> Nonetheless, personally there is nothing not already
> announced that wouldn't fulfill my needs, though I
> wouldn't mind seeing the 12-24mm upgraded to DA* spec.
>
> I just hope the prices on the three DA* lenses aren't
> TOO exorbitant... I really, really want a K10D and DA*
> 16-50mm!
>
> New Doug
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RE: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-21 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
> The 17-70mm strikes me as particularly redundant...
> Do we really need another standard zoom on top of the
> 18-55, 16-45 and 16-50mm lenses?

It is a good addition to the lens line if it has USM.

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RE: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-21 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
 --- Douglas Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:

> The 17-70mm strikes me as particularly redundant...
> Do
> we really need another standard zoom on top of the
> 18-55, 16-45 and 16-50mm lenses?
> 

In my case, I am really happy with this. I really miss
the range of the FA28-105 when using the DA18-55.

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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-20 Thread John Forbes
It is interesting that the 200 and 300 lenses are D FA, not DA.  Pity no  
apertures are noted for the later lenses.  The 55mm harks back to Takumar  
days, and might perhaps become a portrait lens to rival the 85mm lenses.

John

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 05:56:15 +0100, Digital Image Studio  
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> On 21/09/06, Douglas Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Here is the 2007 lens roadmap in English:
>> http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf
>>
>> Aside from the three DA* zooms, I don't see anything
>> particularly exciting.
>
> So we will have a 40, 43, 50, 55, where the hell is the 60mm?
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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-20 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 09:44:04PM -0700, Douglas Newman wrote:
> Here is the 2007 lens roadmap in English:
> http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf 
> 
> Aside from the three DA* zooms, I don't see anything
> particularly exciting.
> 
> The 17-70mm strikes me as particularly redundant... Do
> we really need another standard zoom on top of the
> 18-55, 16-45 and 16-50mm lenses?

That rather depends on whether SDM will be restricted to
just the DA* lenses, or whether it will be available on
regular DA lenses as well.   In any case, it's sometimes
nice to have a little more reach on a general-purpose
zoom; I bought the FA equivalent, a 28-105, rather than
a 28-80.


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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-20 Thread Brendan MacRae
I called the 55 in Shel's thread earlier...cool that
they're bringing it back.

What do I win?

Let's hope it's a Ltd and f1.8 or faster.

Also, excited about the DFA 200 and 300.

-Brendan

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> On 21/09/06, Douglas Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Here is the 2007 lens roadmap in English:
> >
> http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf
> >
> > Aside from the three DA* zooms, I don't see
> anything
> > particularly exciting.
> 
> So we will have a 40, 43, 50, 55, where the hell is
> the 60mm?
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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-20 Thread David Savage
At 12:56 PM 21/09/2006, Digital Image Studio wrote:
>On 21/09/06, Douglas Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Here is the 2007 lens roadmap in English:
> > http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf
> >
> > Aside from the three DA* zooms, I don't see anything
> > particularly exciting.
>
>So we will have a 40, 43, 50, 55, where the hell is the 60mm?


Who want's 60mm? I think 57mm would be a much more useful FL

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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-20 Thread David Savage
At 12:44 PM 21/09/2006, you wrote:
>I just hope the prices on the three DA* lenses aren't
>TOO exorbitant... I really, really want a K10D and DA*
>16-50mm!

The DA 16-45 f4 was about AU$650 when it was release here in Australia, my 
guess is that the 16-50 f2.8 would be anywhere between AU$900-1200.

Considering how cheap the K10D is going to retail for, Pentax may be 
looking to make money on DA* lens sales?

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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Sep 20, 2006, at 10:31 PM, David Savage wrote:

>>> Here is the 2007 lens roadmap in English:
>>> http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf
>>>
>>> Aside from the three DA* zooms, I don't see anything
>>> particularly exciting.
>>
>> So we will have a 40, 43, 50, 55, where the hell is the 60mm?
>
>
> Who want's 60mm? I think 57mm would be a much more useful FL

I'll get pissy if they don't promise a compact DA 28mm f/2 Limited in  
2008...  LOL!

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Re: 2007 Lens Roadmap In English

2006-09-20 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 21/09/06, Douglas Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here is the 2007 lens roadmap in English:
> http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf
>
> Aside from the three DA* zooms, I don't see anything
> particularly exciting.

So we will have a 40, 43, 50, 55, where the hell is the 60mm?

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