Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-22 Thread Cotty

>>  I would have thought that at the rate we buy kit, it was in your interest
>>  to point ANY cutomers in this direction!
>>   >>
>> 
>> I don't think he has internet, at all. 
>
>You mean he spends his spare time _taking pictures_? 
>Pervert.

God that is so sick. These people shouldn't be allowed to buy the gear.

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Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-22 Thread mike wilson

Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  I would have thought that at the rate we buy kit, it was in your interest
>  to point ANY cutomers in this direction!
>   >>
> 
> I don't think he has internet, at all. 

You mean he spends his spare time _taking pictures_? 
Pervert.

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Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-22 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 21/03/02 22:22:02 GMT Standard Time, Cotty writes:

<< << I've done this for a while with my Tamron (does no-one in the UK
 > >  have big _Pentax_ glass?)  >>
 > > 
 > > Mike. Someone does, now.
 > 
 > Pray tell, whoever you are.  Hope it's coming to the PDML
 > meet... >>
 >
 >I don't think he's on the list. 
 
 I would have thought that at the rate we buy kit, it was in your interest 
 to point ANY cutomers in this direction!
  >>

I don't think he has internet, at all. Your opportunity to flog him a Mac :). 

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-21 Thread Cotty

> > << I've done this for a while with my Tamron (does no-one in the UK
> >  have big _Pentax_ glass?)  >>
> > 
> > Mike. Someone does, now.
> 
> Pray tell, whoever you are.  Hope it's coming to the PDML
> meet... >>
>
>I don't think he's on the list. 

I would have thought that at the rate we buy kit, it was in your interest 
to point ANY cutomers in this direction!

;-)

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RE: A few quick release questions

2002-03-21 Thread Cotty

>Without a pivoting head of some sort, you can't shoot verticals. 

Not on a lens with a rotating mount, Paul. The Tokina has a lovely one 
that clicks into place at 90 degree intervals, and is then tightened.

>Moreover, the recommemded stance for holding a monopd is to brace it 
>toward you at an angle. In effect, it and your two legs become a tripod. A 
>head lets you tilt the monopod in this way and still shoot sraight ahead.

I have to agree with you here: this is how I would tend to use a monopod. 
The only exception would be on soft ground where the foot sinks, so I 
place the foot on the toe of my shoe - better than nothin :-)

I'm set on doing some sort of Ultimate Bastard Strength Monopod Mount. 
I'm talking 5mm steel, 488 hemi and four barrels, buddy. And Steve Larson 
didn't say a word this time...

Cotsweld



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Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-21 Thread Mark Roberts

Wendy Beard wrote:

> When I bought my monopod in the local shop I also asked for advice on
> heads for it. I'd taken the camera along too to try it out. The salesman
> told me that, in his opinion, I didn't need one and should just screw
the
> pod straight onto the camera. Sent me off to go and try it and if I 
> decided I wanted a head on it, then of course, he'd sell me one. Not many
> salsmen would do that!
> I did try it and it worked pretty well.

I tried a head on my monopod at first but I've found I only use the monopod
with my 80-200 or my 300, lenses that have rotating tripod mounts, so I've
pretty much given up on it now.



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Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com
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Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-21 Thread T Rittenhouse

Especially for verticals I imagine.

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- Original Message -
From: wendy beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: A few quick release questions


> At 06:43 21-3-2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >So, what I did was simply remove the quick release head from the monopod,
> >and mount the 300 2.8 straight onto the head mounting bush. Actual
> >shooting isn't a problem, it's the carrying. I decided I like to pop the
> >combo onto my shoulder, camera/lens facing backwards, with the monopod
> >leg down my chest where I can steady it with a hand. I found that this
> >works very well, and my only worry was the whole thing coming detached
> >and falling. Attaching directly to the bush was the simplest solution,
> >and the fact that it takes 30 seconds or so to unscrew/ rescrew the quick
> >release head for other lens combos doesn't bother me.
> >
> >.02
> >
> >Cotty
>
> When I bought my monopod in the local shop I also asked for advice on
heads
> for it. I'd taken the camera along too to try it out. The salesman told me
> that, in his opinion, I didn't need one and should just screw the pod
> straight onto the camera. Sent me off to go and try it and if I decided I
> wanted a head on it, then of course, he'd sell me one. Not many salsmen
> would do that!
> I did try it and it worked pretty well.
>
> Wendy
>
> ---
> Wendy Beard
> Ottawa, Canada
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> home page http://www.beard-redfern.com
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Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-21 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 21/03/02 14:34:45 GMT Standard Time, Mike writes:

<< In a message dated 21/03/02 11:44:51 GMT Standard Time, Mike writes:
 > 
 > << I've done this for a while with my Tamron (does no-one in the UK
 >  have big _Pentax_ glass?)  >>
 > 
 > Mike. Someone does, now.
 
 Pray tell, whoever you are.  Hope it's coming to the PDML
 meet... >>

I don't think he's on the list. 

KR

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RE: A few quick release questions

2002-03-21 Thread Rob Brigham

OK, maybe I can see it in some circumstances.  But this must hinder
framing - if you are using long lenses, then shooting in this way would
make it impossible to point the lens accurately - unless you had a waist
level finder.  Also, many long lenses come with a tripod collar which
would allow verticals anyway.

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> 
> 
> Without a pivoting head of some sort, you can't shoot verticals. 
> 
> Moreover, the recommemded stance for holding a monopd is to 
> brace it toward you at an angle. In effect, it and your two 
> legs become a tripod. A head lets you tilt the monopod in 
> this way and still shoot sraight ahead.
> 
> Rob Brigham wrote: 
> 
> I fail to see how adding an extra joint could do anything 
> apart from make the pod less stable anyway.  Unless you want 
> a little extra height, or MUST have a quick release (why on a 
> monopod?) then a head seems pointless. 
> 
> 
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RE: A few quick release questions

2002-03-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Without a pivoting head of some sort, you can't shoot verticals. 

Moreover, the recommemded stance for holding a monopd is to brace it toward you at an 
angle. In effect, it and your two legs become a tripod. A head lets you tilt the 
monopod in this way and still shoot sraight ahead.

Rob Brigham wrote: 

I fail to see how adding an extra joint could do anything apart from make the pod less 
stable anyway.  Unless you want a little extra height, or MUST have a quick release 
(why on a monopod?) then a head seems pointless. 


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Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-21 Thread mike wilson

Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 21/03/02 11:44:51 GMT Standard Time, Mike writes:
> 
> << I've done this for a while with my Tamron (does no-one in the UK
>  have big _Pentax_ glass?)  >>
> 
> Mike. Someone does, now.

Pray tell, whoever you are.  Hope it's coming to the PDML
meet...
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Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-21 Thread mike wilson

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Don't even remind me. A Tamron 300mm f2.8 sheared off the bush from a Gitzo
> monopod this way, entailing cracked front element, totally buggered hood,
> cracked motordrive, and a few minor scuffs to the camera. Once in a lifetime
> is once too often for me.

Er, gulp!  OK, I'm convinced.

mike
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Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-21 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 21/03/02 11:44:51 GMT Standard Time, Mike writes:

<< I've done this for a while with my Tamron (does no-one in the UK
 have big _Pentax_ glass?)  >>

Mike. Someone does, now. 

Kind regards

peter
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Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-21 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 21/03/02 11:44:51 GMT Standard Time, Cotty writes:

<< I decided I like to pop the 
 combo onto my shoulder, camera/lens facing backwards, with the monopod 
 leg down my chest where I can steady it with a hand. I found that this 
 works very well, and my only worry was the whole thing coming detached 
 and falling. >>

Don't even remind me. A Tamron 300mm f2.8 sheared off the bush from a Gitzo 
monopod this way, entailing cracked front element, totally buggered hood, 
cracked motordrive, and a few minor scuffs to the camera. Once in a lifetime 
is once too often for me.

KR

peter
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RE: A few quick release questions

2002-03-21 Thread Alan Abbott

Can't afford it !
Alan

> -Original Message-
> From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: A few quick release questions
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Cotty wrote:
> 
> > So, what I did was simply remove the quick release head 
> from the monopod,
> > and mount the 300 2.8 straight onto the head mounting bush. 
> 
> I've done this for a while with my Tamron (does no-one in the UK
> have big _Pentax_ glass?) and found it extremely acceptable. 
> It's alright to carry over the shoulder if you are not going too
> far.
> 
> mike
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Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-21 Thread mike wilson

Hi,

Cotty wrote:

> So, what I did was simply remove the quick release head from the monopod,
> and mount the 300 2.8 straight onto the head mounting bush. 

I've done this for a while with my Tamron (does no-one in the UK
have big _Pentax_ glass?) and found it extremely acceptable. 
It's alright to carry over the shoulder if you are not going too
far.

mike
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Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-21 Thread Cotty

I went for a stroll the other Sunday, to a local lake on my landlord's 
farm. I took only my LX and drive with 300 Tokina 2.8 to give it a try. I 
recently asked about heavy duty quick release systems because I wanted to 
keep to the same system across all my monopod and tripod-mounted lenses, 
but for the highest common denominator, which would be the 300mm. I 
wasn't satisfied that the choices I had, at the prices I wanted to pay, 
were viable.

So, what I did was simply remove the quick release head from the monopod, 
and mount the 300 2.8 straight onto the head mounting bush. Actual 
shooting isn't a problem, it's the carrying. I decided I like to pop the 
combo onto my shoulder, camera/lens facing backwards, with the monopod 
leg down my chest where I can steady it with a hand. I found that this 
works very well, and my only worry was the whole thing coming detached 
and falling. Attaching directly to the bush was the simplest solution, 
and the fact that it takes 30 seconds or so to unscrew/ rescrew the quick 
release head for other lens combos doesn't bother me.

.02

Cotty

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