RE: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread J. C. O'Connell
It think its C= classic = 1.5:1 aspect, H=HDTV = 16:9 = 1.78:1 aspect.
Don't know the dimensions or if these designations only refer to aspect
ratios.
JCO

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From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: APS Sensor Size


I have seen APS sensors described as APS C and APS H  What'd the
difference.  Are there other APS sensor size designations?


Shel 




Re: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
APS C is aps Classic, more or less the same ratio as 35mm film  (35mm ~ 
24x36mm, APS-C ~ 16x24)).
APS-H is the HDTV format on APS thats ~ 16x30, the other APS format is 
panoramic which is 10x30mm.
As far as I now there aren't any Digital cameras that have a Panoramic 
sensor.  I doubt that there are any that
have an APS-H sized sensor.  BTW all of these are only approximated by 
digital manufactures, the ratios of the
sensors are not quite the same as APS or 35mm and the sensor size is a 
bit smaller than APS-C as well, (though not much
smaller), Pentax for example is actually 23.5x15.7.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I have seen APS sensors described as APS C and APS H  What'd the
difference.  Are there other APS sensor size designations?
Shel 


 


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RE: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I bet as HDTV becomes the norm  the standard
TV screen is 16:9, there will be WAY MORE 
H format digicams because digital photos look
pretty nice on a HDTV ( My 34 SONY HDTV does digital
photo display and slide shows via a memory stick slot).
JCO

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From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:38 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: APS Sensor Size


APS C is aps Classic, more or less the same ratio as 35mm film  (35mm ~ 
24x36mm, APS-C ~ 16x24)).
APS-H is the HDTV format on APS thats ~ 16x30, the other APS format is 
panoramic which is 10x30mm.
As far as I now there aren't any Digital cameras that have a Panoramic 
sensor.  I doubt that there are any that
have an APS-H sized sensor.  BTW all of these are only approximated by 
digital manufactures, the ratios of the
sensors are not quite the same as APS or 35mm and the sensor size is a 
bit smaller than APS-C as well, (though not much
smaller), Pentax for example is actually 23.5x15.7.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

I have seen APS sensors described as APS C and APS H  What'd the 
difference.  Are there other APS sensor size designations?


Shel



  



-- 
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
peacetime.
--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread John Francis
Shel Belinkoff mused:
 
 I have seen APS sensors described as APS C and APS H  What'd the
 difference.  Are there other APS sensor size designations?

The true meaning of these designations is only appropriate when
used to refer to the differing aspect ratios on APS cameras.

In the DSLR world, APS C is used to refer to those cameras with a
1.5 or 1.6 crop factor, while APS H is used as shorthand for the
lower-magnification, but still not full frame cameras, such as
the Canon EOS-1D (not the 1Ds).

While the terminology isn't precise, it's a reasonable way to
indicate how large an image circle is required to avoid vignetting.



Re: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread Jim Apilado
That would be cool to get an Xpan Hasselblad with a panoramic APS sensor.

Jim A.

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 APS C is aps Classic, more or less the same ratio as 35mm film  (35mm ~
 24x36mm, APS-C ~ 16x24)).
 APS-H is the HDTV format on APS thats ~ 16x30, the other APS format is
 panoramic which is 10x30mm.
 As far as I now there aren't any Digital cameras that have a Panoramic
 sensor.  I doubt that there are any that
 have an APS-H sized sensor.  BTW all of these are only approximated by
 digital manufactures, the ratios of the
 sensors are not quite the same as APS or 35mm and the sensor size is a
 bit smaller than APS-C as well, (though not much
 smaller), Pentax for example is actually 23.5x15.7.
 
 Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
 I have seen APS sensors described as APS C and APS H  What'd the
 difference.  Are there other APS sensor size designations?
 
 
 Shel 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
 During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
 and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
 peacetime.
 --P.J. O'Rourke
 
 



Re: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
You sure?
Jim Apilado wrote:
That would be cool to get an Xpan Hasselblad with a panoramic APS sensor.
Jim A.
 

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APS C is aps Classic, more or less the same ratio as 35mm film  (35mm ~
24x36mm, APS-C ~ 16x24)).
APS-H is the HDTV format on APS thats ~ 16x30, the other APS format is
panoramic which is 10x30mm.
As far as I now there aren't any Digital cameras that have a Panoramic
sensor.  I doubt that there are any that
have an APS-H sized sensor.  BTW all of these are only approximated by
digital manufactures, the ratios of the
sensors are not quite the same as APS or 35mm and the sensor size is a
bit smaller than APS-C as well, (though not much
smaller), Pentax for example is actually 23.5x15.7.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
   

I have seen APS sensors described as APS C and APS H  What'd the
difference.  Are there other APS sensor size designations?
Shel 



 

--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
peacetime.
--P.J. O'Rourke
   


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
 I have seen APS sensors described as APS C and APS H 
 What's the difference.  Are there other APS sensor size
designations?

Here's the whole scoop regards APS film formats vs the similar
sized DSLR sensor formats.

format: proportion - dimensions - diagonal
- --- ---
APS-C: 2:3 - 16.7x25.1mm - 30.12mm
APS-H: 9:16 - 16.7x30.2mm - 34.5mm
APS-P: 1:3 - 9.5x30.2mm - 31.65mm
FourThirds: 3:4 - 13.5x18mm - 22.5mm
Canon APS-C: 2:3 - 15x22.5mm - 27.04mm
Nikon/Pentax/Minolta APS-C: 2:3 - 15.7x23.5mm - 28.3mm 

APS-C film format is close but not the same as the APS-C
sensor formats. 

Godfrey

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Re: APS Sensor Size

2005-02-26 Thread mike wilson
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I have seen APS sensors described as APS C and APS H  What'd the
difference.  Are there other APS sensor size designations?
I've never seen sensors described this way.  It's always been _print_ 
formats and the different shapes and sizes all come from crops of the 
original negative that were encoded electronically on the negative strip 
by the camera at taking - if it had the capability.

mike