RE: Back from vacation - equipment experiences
Actually I didn't stay at an A/C hotel (when I was there I sure wished I did...) and the problems occured after almost a whole day of shooting during which the camera worked just fine. Thanks for the tip, though. I know that condensation is a problem when changing the climate, and it frequently occurs here in Sweden in winter time when you use the camera outdoors. Bringing it indoors create exactly the problem you describe, unless you let it adjust to room temperature in a sealed plastic bag. It didn't occur to me that the same mechanism can occur in the jungle - from cool and dry to warmer and humid. regards, Erik -Original Message- From: Anthony Farr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 23 oktober 2001 04:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Back from vacation - equipment experiences Erik, Liquid penetration is possible with a non sealed camera like an MZ-3 but in the tropics it's condensation that you need to beware of. Perhaps you spent the night in an air-conditioned hotel room so that when you went out for a day's touring the camera was still cool for a while and became a target for condensation from the surrounding air, especially if the humidity was in the 90% to 100% range at 35ºC plus. The best system of prevention is to store the camera overnight in a sealed plastic bag with dessicant, and each day upon leaving your cool, dry hotel room leave the camera sealed in its bag until it has reached ambient temperature. Result: no condensation :) Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Erik Nordin [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) ... due to some equipment problems... And this is where it might be interesting also for you... First, my MZ-3 stopped working in the rain forest. It was obviously partly my own fault, since I didn't protect it sufficiently. After one day of trekking it just died. No response whatsoever, no info on the display either. It didn't help to change from the battery pack to normal lithium cells. So, I left the place and went to Kuala Lumpur where the camera woke up after two days. Now everything is back to normal... So, what's to learn from this? Well, keep the camera in a bag to prevent it from being wet by dripping water. The humidity is difficult to handle, but I should have protected it from the sweat pouring off my body... (snip) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Back from vacation - equipment experiences
Hi Erik ... Don't blame yourself too much. Many new, electronic cameras can't handle high humidity or temperature extremes. Erik Nordin wrote: First, my MZ-3 stopped working in the rain forest. It was obviously partly my own fault, since I didn't protect it sufficiently. After one day of trekking it just died. [...] So, what's to learn from this? Well, keep the camera in a bag to prevent it from being wet by dripping water. The humidity is difficult to handle, but I should have protected it from the sweat -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Back from vacation - equipment experiences
On 22 Oct 2001, at 14:52, Erik Nordin wrote: First, my MZ-3 stopped working in the rain forest. It was obviously partly my own fault, since I didn't protect it sufficiently. After one day of trekking it just died. No response whatsoever, no info on the display either. It didn't help to change from the battery pack to normal lithium cells. So, I left the place and went to Kuala Lumpur where the camera woke up after two days. Now everything is back to normal... Hi Erik, I'm sorry to hear of all the problems that you had with your gear, especially the full mechanical back-up, sometimes things just aren't supposed to be. I wonder how the MZ-S would handle this type of torture, has anyone put theirs through the ringer yet? I am a bit rough with my gear, I regularly shoot my LX and Leica M cameras in quite heavy rain and both perform flawlessly, also during my recent trip to HK the top of my camera was always wet with sweat due to the high humidity and temperatures. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Back from vacation - equipment experiences
What he needs is a real pro camera with real dust seals and gaskets like a Nikon F5, EOS-1v, or Maxxum 9. While not waterproof because of the film back it's tough for dirt or water to work their way in while the back is closed. That can't be said for a Pentax manual body or ZX/MZ body (possibly MZ-S excepted but I have no knowledge of it's specs in that area). One reason people use those cameras is because they know they will still function under adverse conditions a normal camera will not. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Back from vacation - equipment experiences Hi Erik ... Don't blame yourself too much. Many new, electronic cameras can't handle high humidity or temperature extremes. Erik Nordin wrote: First, my MZ-3 stopped working in the rain forest. It was obviously partly my own fault, since I didn't protect it sufficiently. After one day of trekking it just died. [...] So, what's to learn from this? Well, keep the camera in a bag to prevent it from being wet by dripping water. The humidity is difficult to handle, but I should have protected it from the sweat -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Back from vacation - equipment experiences
Also remember in photography the important thing is the shot itself not what equipment you have to use to get it. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Back from vacation - equipment experiences Hi Erik ... Don't blame yourself too much. Many new, electronic cameras can't handle high humidity or temperature extremes. Erik Nordin wrote: First, my MZ-3 stopped working in the rain forest. It was obviously partly my own fault, since I didn't protect it sufficiently. After one day of trekking it just died. [...] So, what's to learn from this? Well, keep the camera in a bag to prevent it from being wet by dripping water. The humidity is difficult to handle, but I should have protected it from the sweat -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Back from vacation - equipment experiences
To an extent you're correct, although perhaps a well-sealed mechanical camera, that doesn't rely as much upon electronics, might afford even better results in a humid environment. Kent Gittings wrote: What he needs is a real pro camera with real dust seals and gaskets like a Nikon F5, EOS-1v, or Maxxum 9. While not waterproof because of the film back it's tough for dirt or water to work their way in while the back is closed. That can't be said for a Pentax manual body or ZX/MZ body (possibly MZ-S excepted but I have no knowledge of it's specs in that area). One reason people use those cameras is because they know they will still function under adverse conditions a normal camera will not. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Back from vacation - equipment experiences
Erik, Liquid penetration is possible with a non sealed camera like an MZ-3 but in the tropics it's condensation that you need to beware of. Perhaps you spent the night in an air-conditioned hotel room so that when you went out for a day's touring the camera was still cool for a while and became a target for condensation from the surrounding air, especially if the humidity was in the 90% to 100% range at 35ºC plus. The best system of prevention is to store the camera overnight in a sealed plastic bag with dessicant, and each day upon leaving your cool, dry hotel room leave the camera sealed in its bag until it has reached ambient temperature. Result: no condensation :) Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Erik Nordin [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) ... due to some equipment problems... And this is where it might be interesting also for you... First, my MZ-3 stopped working in the rain forest. It was obviously partly my own fault, since I didn't protect it sufficiently. After one day of trekking it just died. No response whatsoever, no info on the display either. It didn't help to change from the battery pack to normal lithium cells. So, I left the place and went to Kuala Lumpur where the camera woke up after two days. Now everything is back to normal... So, what's to learn from this? Well, keep the camera in a bag to prevent it from being wet by dripping water. The humidity is difficult to handle, but I should have protected it from the sweat pouring off my body... (snip) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
