Re: Digital Ice + Kodak TMZ

2002-08-15 Thread William Robb

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From: Peifer, William
Subject: RE: Digital Ice + Kodak TMZ


 Rochester, NY
 (A soon-to-be suburb of GTA, if we ever get that ferry service
they've been
 talking about)

Take TorontoPLEASE!!
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Re: Digital Ice + Kodak TMZ

2002-08-14 Thread gfen

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, William Robb wrote:
 The $64,000 question is, why would you want to scan black and
 white film in the first place?

I can't speak for anyone else, but it was originally because I didn't
think I had room for a wet darkroom, so I opted for a digital darkroom
instead.

However, I never bothered to buy a printer, and now instead I'm waiting
for an enlarger to be sent off to me, instead.



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Re: Digital Ice + Kodak TMZ

2002-08-14 Thread Peter Alling

Just possibly because you don't have room for a traditional darkroom.

At 04:46 PM 8/13/2002 -0600, you wrote:
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  Hi everyone,
  I have just tried to scan a BW (TMax 3200) film, and it seems
that
  leaving the digital ICE (this is Nikon 4000ED scanner) turns
the scans
  to literally, black and white (and almost no any intermediate
greys)!
  Switching IR cleaning off turns the pictures back to normal.
Any ideas
  of what may go on? Does silver absorb all the IR making
scanner thing
  that there's nothing but dirt?

We have the same problem with digital ice. It seems that it
doesn't deal with the reflectivity of a silver halide image.
Nikon documentation indicates that digital ice is not usable
with silver halide images.

It would seem there are limits to what Nikon can acomplish.

The $64,000 question is, why would you want to scan black and
white film in the first place?

William Robb
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Re: Digital Ice + Kodak TMZ

2002-08-13 Thread William Robb

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Subject: OT: Digital Ice + Kodak TMZ


 Hi everyone,
 I have just tried to scan a BW (TMax 3200) film, and it seems
that
 leaving the digital ICE (this is Nikon 4000ED scanner) turns
the scans
 to literally, black and white (and almost no any intermediate
greys)!
 Switching IR cleaning off turns the pictures back to normal.
Any ideas
 of what may go on? Does silver absorb all the IR making
scanner thing
 that there's nothing but dirt?

We have the same problem with digital ice. It seems that it
doesn't deal with the reflectivity of a silver halide image.
Nikon documentation indicates that digital ice is not usable
with silver halide images.

It would seem there are limits to what Nikon can acomplish.

The $64,000 question is, why would you want to scan black and
white film in the first place?

William Robb
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RE: Digital Ice + Kodak TMZ

2002-08-13 Thread Rob Brigham

It is written in many places, not least the manuals and all over the
internet, that ICE, ROC and GEM only work with E-6 slides or C-41
negatives.  NOT silver BW negs OR Kodachrome.  Sorry, but its
apperently just the physics of the way they do this.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 13 August 2002 23:15
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: Digital Ice + Kodak TMZ
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 I have just tried to scan a BW (TMax 3200) film, and it seems 
 that leaving the digital ICE (this is Nikon 4000ED scanner) 
 turns the scans to literally, black and white (and almost no 
 any intermediate greys)! Switching IR cleaning off turns the 
 pictures back to normal. Any ideas of what may go on? Does 
 silver absorb all the IR making scanner thing that there's 
 nothing but dirt? 
 
 Oh man! If the Nikon software is that stupid, I am officially pissed.
 
 Mishka.
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RE: Digital Ice + Kodak TMZ

2002-08-13 Thread David Chang-Sang

The $64,000 question is, why would you want to scan black and
white film in the first place?

William Robb

Perhaps he wants to submit a BW image to the PUG ?
Maybe he wants to share a BW image with friends/family via email ?

Digital ICE and ROC and GEM all do not handle BW Silver Halide - only C-41
semi-BW (i.e. XP2, Portra 400BW, T400CN etc.) - it's not unique to Nikon
either - I have a Minolta Scan Elite II and it is the same - as Rob Studdert
in Australia said - get a good antistatic film cloth or a blower or
compressed air or all 3 and clean before scanning.

Cheers,
Dave
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Re: Digital Ice + Kodak TMZ

2002-08-13 Thread Mishka

 From: William Robb 
 Subject: Re: Digital Ice + Kodak TMZ 
 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:09:53 -0700 
 
 We have the same problem with digital ice. It seems that it
 doesn't deal with the reflectivity of a silver halide image.
 Nikon documentation indicates that digital ice is not usable
 with silver halide images.
 
 It would seem there are limits to what Nikon can acomplish.

Fair enough, I haven't bothered to look that up in the manual. Makes
sense. 

In any event, now that I am half way through the roll, it seems that
the grain (I rated it 1600) is large enough to make any imperfections
obvious on Provia 100F slides mostly irrelevant.
 
 The $64,000 question is, why would you want to scan black and
 white film in the first place?

Because I don't have an enlarger (or a place to set one up in my
apartment). Do I get the money?

 William Robb

Best,
Mishka
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