Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Subash Jeyan]

thanks Doug and i am grateful too to have found this place in 2006 i
think... wishing everyone a happy 2021...



On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 17:26:15 -0500
Doug Brewer  wrote:

> sort of.
> 
> During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum
> project for a local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a
> friend and Pentax sales guy some of you will remember from GFM. He
> told me that Pentax USA, which carried the PAML and PDML on its
> website, was looking to get out of the email list game because of
> potential liability issues arising from unsanctioned and borderline
> dangerously irresponsible technical and repair advice getting posted
> to the PDML.
> 
> Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought
> about a few members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or
> two, who pretty much laughed, and I reported back to Don that there
> didn't seem to be much interest. He said ok.
> 
> A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at 
> Pentax called to tell me she had heard from Don that I would like to
> be considered for the role of List Guy. After a long pause, followed
> by some muttering and me repeating "wait, what?" a few times, the
> nice woman in marketing assured me that Don said I was very
> interested.
> 
> That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.
> 
> I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the 
> imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how
> to run an email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent
> and liked it that way, and so on.
> 
> The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I 
> begrudgingly agreed that I would download some list software packages 
> and see if I could make any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd
> get back to her in a week or so with my decision. The nice woman in 
> marketing rang off.
> 
> That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it,
> and poked around for a few minutes until I had to do something with
> my actual job. The only thing I had really discerned from my brief
> time with the software was that I was out of my depth and needed some
> serious hours with it before I could even begin to think about
> whether or not I would take over the PDML.
> 
> Some time that night the PDML broke.
> 
> The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the
> guy who worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA
> website and was the only one there who knew the list software and how
> it interfaced with the website was off on Christmas vacation and the
> server was down and hey, she would email me a list of everyone who
> was subscribed to the PDML. Good luck and godspeed, it was now my
> baby.
> 
> I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm 
> grateful for it.
> 
> Happy New Year, kids.
> 


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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[ann sanfedele]

Christine.. you said it all!  totally agree...  including off and on MIA's

aside to the (other) oldies.. I don't remember mafud but I do remember 
.. Dobo? or was it Dodo?...


Been here since 1998 .. I'm glad to have met Don Nelson in person and 
traded teasing reparte and cooking with him...


Think I've met about 50 of you.. at least that many.. in person.. hope 
there will be more in the future


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On 1/2/2021 1:02 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Doug and all dear PDML friends!

I really enjoyed reading this history of PDML!  Thanks, Doug, for taking over 
PDML.  It’s greatly appreciated.  Your generosity led to a lot of great 
friendships, photography camaraderie, travel,  improvement of skills, a PDML 
exhibition, sharing of photo knowledge, teasing, storytelling, humor, and 
everything else life dishes out!  What a fun group!  I know I’ve been a bit MIA 
lately, but PDML is still a favorite part of my life.

I hope to be more active in 2021!
Wishing the very best to all on the list!
Happy New Year!’
Stay safe and well!
Big cheers, Christine Aguila







On Jan 1, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:

sort of.

During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum project for a 
local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a friend and Pentax sales guy 
some of you will remember from GFM. He told me that Pentax USA, which carried 
the PAML and PDML on its website, was looking to get out of the email list game 
because of potential liability issues arising from unsanctioned and borderline 
dangerously irresponsible technical and repair advice getting posted to the 
PDML.

Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought about a few 
members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or two, who pretty much 
laughed, and I reported back to Don that there didn't seem to be much interest. 
He said ok.

A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at Pentax called to tell 
me she had heard from Don that I would like to be considered for the role of List Guy. 
After a long pause, followed by some muttering and me repeating "wait, what?" a 
few times, the nice woman in marketing assured me that Don said I was very interested.

That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.

I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the 
imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how to run an 
email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent and liked it that 
way, and so on.

The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I begrudgingly 
agreed that I would download some list software packages and see if I could 
make any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd get back to her in a week or so 
with my decision. The nice woman in marketing rang off.

That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it, and poked 
around for a few minutes until I had to do something with my actual job. The 
only thing I had really discerned from my brief time with the software was that 
I was out of my depth and needed some serious hours with it before I could even 
begin to think about whether or not I would take over the PDML.

Some time that night the PDML broke.

The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the guy who 
worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA website and was 
the only one there who knew the list software and how it interfaced with the 
website was off on Christmas vacation and the server was down and hey, she 
would email me a list of everyone who was subscribed to the PDML. Good luck and 
godspeed, it was now my baby.

I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm grateful 
for it.

Happy New Year, kids.

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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Brian W]

I still have my hair - even though there's a lot more grey than when I joined
the list in about 2003.  

Thanks for keeping us going, Doug.  Very much appreciated.

Cheers
Brian

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> On 02 January 2021 at 15:43 Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
> Those were the days, I'll tell you.
> Whowhowho can forget mafud, or greene, or how many other aliases did he 
> have?
> I even still had some hair back then.
> 
> bill
> 
> > On 02-Jan-21 12:26 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
> >> sort of.
> >>
> >> During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum 
> >> project for a local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a friend 
> >> and Pentax sales guy some of you will remember from GFM. He told me 
> >> that Pentax USA, which carried the PAML and PDML on its website, was 
> >> looking to get out of the email list game because of potential 
> >> liability issues arising from unsanctioned and borderline dangerously 
> >> irresponsible technical and repair advice getting posted to the PDML.
> >>
> >> Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought 
> >> about a few members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or 
> >> two, who pretty much laughed, and I reported back to Don that there 
> >> didn't seem to be much interest. He said ok.
> >>
> >> A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at 
> >> Pentax called to tell me she had heard from Don that I would like to 
> >> be considered for the role of List Guy. After a long pause, followed 
> >> by some muttering and me repeating "wait, what?" a few times, the nice 
> >> woman in marketing assured me that Don said I was very interested.
> >>
> >> That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.
> >>
> >> I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the 
> >> imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how 
> >> to run an email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent 
> >> and liked it that way, and so on.
> >>
> >> The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I 
> >> begrudgingly agreed that I would download some list software packages 
> >> and see if I could make any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd get 
> >> back to her in a week or so with my decision. The nice woman in 
> >> marketing rang off.
> >>
> >> That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it, and 
> >> poked around for a few minutes until I had to do something with my 
> >> actual job. The only thing I had really discerned from my brief time 
> >> with the software was that I was out of my depth and needed some 
> >> serious hours with it before I could even begin to think about whether 
> >> or not I would take over the PDML.
> >>
> >> Some time that night the PDML broke.
> >>
> >> The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the 
> >> guy who worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA 
> >> website and was the only one there who knew the list software and how 
> >> it interfaced with the website was off on Christmas vacation and the 
> >> server was down and hey, she would email me a list of everyone who was 
> >> subscribed to the PDML. Good luck and godspeed, it was now my baby.
> >>
> >> I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm 
> >> grateful for it.
> >>
> >> Happy New Year, kids.
> >>
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Otis C. Wright, Jr.]

Many thanks. Doug for the significant  contribution you have made over 
the yearsand to all who contribute here.   For two decades plus, 
I've enjoyed the entertainment, skill sharpening information, etc. I've 
been a Pentax user since '68.  I joined the group looking to sharpen my 
skills when I needed to obtain better photographic results to support a 
new professional foray into the realm of forensics.  I was not 
disappointed.   And, I surely have enjoyed the entertainment.  I'm well 
into retirement now and the plans I once had to purchase a camera like 
the K1, have changed to focus on something small that i can carry around 
with ease and not worry about packing lenses around.   Although, I must 
admit that I'm tempted from occasionally to purchase a digital camera to 
go behind my M42 glass.


I do thank you all.  It has been a pleasant and quite educational journey.

Wishing all of you  the very best in the New Year.

Otis


On 1/1/2021 17:26, Doug Brewer wrote:

sort of.

During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum 
project for a local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a friend 
and Pentax sales guy some of you will remember from GFM. He told me 
that Pentax USA, which carried the PAML and PDML on its website, was 
looking to get out of the email list game because of potential 
liability issues arising from unsanctioned and borderline dangerously 
irresponsible technical and repair advice getting posted to the PDML.


Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought 
about a few members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or 
two, who pretty much laughed, and I reported back to Don that there 
didn't seem to be much interest. He said ok.


A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at 
Pentax called to tell me she had heard from Don that I would like to 
be considered for the role of List Guy. After a long pause, followed 
by some muttering and me repeating "wait, what?" a few times, the nice 
woman in marketing assured me that Don said I was very interested.


That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.

I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the 
imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how 
to run an email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent 
and liked it that way, and so on.


The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I 
begrudgingly agreed that I would download some list software packages 
and see if I could make any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd get 
back to her in a week or so with my decision. The nice woman in 
marketing rang off.


That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it, and 
poked around for a few minutes until I had to do something with my 
actual job. The only thing I had really discerned from my brief time 
with the software was that I was out of my depth and needed some 
serious hours with it before I could even begin to think about whether 
or not I would take over the PDML.


Some time that night the PDML broke.

The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the 
guy who worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA 
website and was the only one there who knew the list software and how 
it interfaced with the website was off on Christmas vacation and the 
server was down and hey, she would email me a list of everyone who was 
subscribed to the PDML. Good luck and godspeed, it was now my baby.


I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm 
grateful for it.


Happy New Year, kids.



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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Ken Waller]

I remember the time of the change over well. I had been on the Pentax run list 
for awhile and was sure the list would fail with their leaving, but you proved 
me wrong - thank you so much for all your involvement in keeping the list 
going. 


-Original Message-
>From: Paul Stenquist 
>Sent: Jan 1, 2021 5:43 PM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to 
>play
>
>Thanks for 20 great years. I had been subscribed for less than a year I think 
>and didn’t want to see it go away. You saved the list, and my memory may
>be faulty but I don’t recall a lot of hiccups. Well done sir
>
>Paul
>
>> On Jan 1, 2021, at 5:27 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
>> 
>> sort of.
>> 
>> During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum project for 
>> a local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a friend and Pentax sales 
>> guy some of you will remember from GFM. He told me that Pentax USA, which 
>> carried the PAML and PDML on its website, was looking to get out of the 
>> email list game because of potential liability issues arising from 
>> unsanctioned and borderline dangerously irresponsible technical and repair 
>> advice getting posted to the PDML.
>> 
>> Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought about a 
>> few members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or two, who pretty 
>> much laughed, and I reported back to Don that there didn't seem to be much 
>> interest. He said ok.
>> 
>> A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at Pentax 
>> called to tell me she had heard from Don that I would like to be considered 
>> for the role of List Guy. After a long pause, followed by some muttering and 
>> me repeating "wait, what?" a few times, the nice woman in marketing assured 
>> me that Don said I was very interested.
>> 
>> That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.
>> 
>> I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the 
>> imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how to run 
>> an email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent and liked it 
>> that way, and so on.
>> 
>> The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I 
>> begrudgingly agreed that I would download some list software packages and 
>> see if I could make any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd get back to 
>> her in a week or so with my decision. The nice woman in marketing rang off.
>> 
>> That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it, and poked 
>> around for a few minutes until I had to do something with my actual job. The 
>> only thing I had really discerned from my brief time with the software was 
>> that I was out of my depth and needed some serious hours with it before I 
>> could even begin to think about whether or not I would take over the PDML.
>> 
>> Some time that night the PDML broke.
>> 
>> The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the guy who 
>> worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA website and was 
>> the only one there who knew the list software and how it interfaced with the 
>> website was off on Christmas vacation and the server was down and hey, she 
>> would email me a list of everyone who was subscribed to the PDML. Good luck 
>> and godspeed, it was now my baby.
>> 
>> I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm grateful 
>> for it.
>> 
>> Happy New Year, kids.
>> 
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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Steve Cottrell]

On 2/1/21, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I saw in the news his dad has applied for French citizenship.

You couldn't make this shit up eh.




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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[David J Brooks]

So now he can say pardon my french.??

Dave

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 1:36 PM John  wrote:

> I saw in the news his dad has applied for French citizenship.
>
> On 1/2/2021 10:41:12, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > Are you sure he isn't the UK PM?  (BTW, does anyone know for sure they
> > aren't the same dude?)
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> > *
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 4:34 AM Bob Pdml  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On 2 Jan 2021, at 08:55, mike wilson  wrote:
> >>> 
> > On 02 January 2021 at 04:43 Bill 
> wrote:
> 
>  Whowhowho can forget mafud, or greene, or how many other aliases did
> he
>  have?
> >>> Dammit; I was nearly there!
> >>
> >> If you’re wondering what happened to him, he became President of the
> >> United States. I expect he will re-subscribe on Jan 21.
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[John]

I saw in the news his dad has applied for French citizenship.

On 1/2/2021 10:41:12, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Are you sure he isn't the UK PM?  (BTW, does anyone know for sure they
aren't the same dude?)

Dan Matyola
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*

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 4:34 AM Bob Pdml  wrote:




On 2 Jan 2021, at 08:55, mike wilson  wrote:


On 02 January 2021 at 04:43 Bill  wrote:


Whowhowho can forget mafud, or greene, or how many other aliases did he
have?

Dammit; I was nearly there!


If you’re wondering what happened to him, he became President of the
United States. I expect he will re-subscribe on Jan 21.





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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[John]

That's the best story I've read in a long time. Congratulations & thanks.


On 1/1/2021 17:26:15, Doug Brewer wrote:

sort of.

During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum project for a 
local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a friend and Pentax sales guy 
some of you will remember from GFM. He told me that Pentax USA, which carried 
the PAML and PDML on its website, was looking to get out of the email list game 
because of potential liability issues arising from unsanctioned and borderline 
dangerously irresponsible technical and repair advice getting posted to the PDML.


Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought about a few 
members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or two, who pretty much 
laughed, and I reported back to Don that there didn't seem to be much interest. 
He said ok.


A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at Pentax called 
to tell me she had heard from Don that I would like to be considered for the 
role of List Guy. After a long pause, followed by some muttering and me 
repeating "wait, what?" a few times, the nice woman in marketing assured me that 
Don said I was very interested.


That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.

I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the 
imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how to run an 
email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent and liked it that way, 
and so on.


The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I begrudgingly 
agreed that I would download some list software packages and see if I could make 
any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd get back to her in a week or so with 
my decision. The nice woman in marketing rang off.


That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it, and poked 
around for a few minutes until I had to do something with my actual job. The 
only thing I had really discerned from my brief time with the software was that 
I was out of my depth and needed some serious hours with it before I could even 
begin to think about whether or not I would take over the PDML.


Some time that night the PDML broke.

The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the guy who 
worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA website and was the 
only one there who knew the list software and how it interfaced with the website 
was off on Christmas vacation and the server was down and hey, she would email 
me a list of everyone who was subscribed to the PDML. Good luck and godspeed, it 
was now my baby.


I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm grateful for 
it.


Happy New Year, kids.




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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[jtainter]

Great story, Doug. Thanks again for taking it on.

Joe



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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Rick Womer]

Impossible. The PDML is well-managed and its members are intelligent. 

As for the Tories and their mop-headed leader...


> On Jan 2, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Are you sure he isn't the UK PM?  (BTW, does anyone know for sure they
> aren't the same dude?)
> 
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
> 
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 4:34 AM Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Jan 2021, at 08:55, mike wilson  wrote:
>>> 
> On 02 January 2021 at 04:43 Bill  wrote:
 
 Whowhowho can forget mafud, or greene, or how many other aliases did he
 have?
>>> Dammit; I was nearly there!
>> 
>> If you’re wondering what happened to him, he became President of the
>> United States. I expect he will re-subscribe on Jan 21.
>> 
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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Bob Pdml]

I’ve never seen them in the same room together, so they probably are.

> On 2 Jan 2021, at 15:42, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Are you sure he isn't the UK PM?  (BTW, does anyone know for sure they
> aren't the same dude?)
> 
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 4:34 AM Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> 
 On 2 Jan 2021, at 08:55, mike wilson  wrote:
>>> 
> On 02 January 2021 at 04:43 Bill  wrote:
 
 Whowhowho can forget mafud, or greene, or how many other aliases did he
 have?
>>> Dammit; I was nearly there!
>> 
>> If you’re wondering what happened to him, he became President of the
>> United States. I expect he will re-subscribe on Jan 21.
>> 

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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[David J Brooks]

thanks for the 20 years Doug, 19 years for me. Even though i am more of a
lurker now i do enjoy my daily trips on the pdml

Dave

On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 5:26 PM Doug Brewer  wrote:

> sort of.
>
> During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum project
> for a local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a friend and
> Pentax sales guy some of you will remember from GFM. He told me that
> Pentax USA, which carried the PAML and PDML on its website, was looking
> to get out of the email list game because of potential liability issues
> arising from unsanctioned and borderline dangerously irresponsible
> technical and repair advice getting posted to the PDML.
>
> Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought about
> a few members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or two, who
> pretty much laughed, and I reported back to Don that there didn't seem
> to be much interest. He said ok.
>
> A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at
> Pentax called to tell me she had heard from Don that I would like to be
> considered for the role of List Guy. After a long pause, followed by
> some muttering and me repeating "wait, what?" a few times, the nice
> woman in marketing assured me that Don said I was very interested.
>
> That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.
>
> I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the
> imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how to
> run an email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent and
> liked it that way, and so on.
>
> The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I
> begrudgingly agreed that I would download some list software packages
> and see if I could make any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd get
> back to her in a week or so with my decision. The nice woman in
> marketing rang off.
>
> That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it, and
> poked around for a few minutes until I had to do something with my
> actual job. The only thing I had really discerned from my brief time
> with the software was that I was out of my depth and needed some serious
> hours with it before I could even begin to think about whether or not I
> would take over the PDML.
>
> Some time that night the PDML broke.
>
> The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the guy
> who worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA website
> and was the only one there who knew the list software and how it
> interfaced with the website was off on Christmas vacation and the server
> was down and hey, she would email me a list of everyone who was
> subscribed to the PDML. Good luck and godspeed, it was now my baby.
>
> I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm
> grateful for it.
>
> Happy New Year, kids.
>
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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Are you sure he isn't the UK PM?  (BTW, does anyone know for sure they
aren't the same dude?)

Dan Matyola
*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
*

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 4:34 AM Bob Pdml  wrote:

>
> > On 2 Jan 2021, at 08:55, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> >>> On 02 January 2021 at 04:43 Bill  wrote:
> >>
> >> Whowhowho can forget mafud, or greene, or how many other aliases did he
> >> have?
> > Dammit; I was nearly there!
>
> If you’re wondering what happened to him, he became President of the
> United States. I expect he will re-subscribe on Jan 21.
>
>
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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[mike wilson]

> On 02 January 2021 at 04:43 Bill  wrote:
> 
> 

> Whowhowho can forget mafud, or greene, or how many other aliases did he 
> have?

Dammit; I was nearly there!

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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Steve Cottrell]

On 1/1/21, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Happy New Year, kids.

Lovely story! Happy New Year to you and your Doug.




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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 01.01.21 um 23:26 schrieb Doug Brewer:

sort of.


What a story!

And what a success it has been. No idea when I joined but I've enjoyed
every single day of it.

Thanks a lot Doug for making it all possible.

Ralf

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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Bob Pdml]

> On 2 Jan 2021, at 08:55, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> 
>>> On 02 January 2021 at 04:43 Bill  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Whowhowho can forget mafud, or greene, or how many other aliases did he 
>> have?
> 
> Dammit; I was nearly there!

If you’re wondering what happened to him, he became President of the United 
States. I expect he will re-subscribe on Jan 21.


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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Doug and all dear PDML friends!

I really enjoyed reading this history of PDML!  Thanks, Doug, for taking over 
PDML.  It’s greatly appreciated.  Your generosity led to a lot of great 
friendships, photography camaraderie, travel,  improvement of skills, a PDML 
exhibition, sharing of photo knowledge, teasing, storytelling, humor, and 
everything else life dishes out!  What a fun group!  I know I’ve been a bit MIA 
lately, but PDML is still a favorite part of my life. 

I hope to be more active in 2021!
Wishing the very best to all on the list!
Happy New Year!’
Stay safe and well!
Big cheers, Christine Aguila






> On Jan 1, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> sort of.
> 
> During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum project for a 
> local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a friend and Pentax sales guy 
> some of you will remember from GFM. He told me that Pentax USA, which carried 
> the PAML and PDML on its website, was looking to get out of the email list 
> game because of potential liability issues arising from unsanctioned and 
> borderline dangerously irresponsible technical and repair advice getting 
> posted to the PDML.
> 
> Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought about a few 
> members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or two, who pretty much 
> laughed, and I reported back to Don that there didn't seem to be much 
> interest. He said ok.
> 
> A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at Pentax 
> called to tell me she had heard from Don that I would like to be considered 
> for the role of List Guy. After a long pause, followed by some muttering and 
> me repeating "wait, what?" a few times, the nice woman in marketing assured 
> me that Don said I was very interested.
> 
> That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.
> 
> I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the 
> imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how to run 
> an email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent and liked it 
> that way, and so on.
> 
> The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I 
> begrudgingly agreed that I would download some list software packages and see 
> if I could make any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd get back to her in 
> a week or so with my decision. The nice woman in marketing rang off.
> 
> That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it, and poked 
> around for a few minutes until I had to do something with my actual job. The 
> only thing I had really discerned from my brief time with the software was 
> that I was out of my depth and needed some serious hours with it before I 
> could even begin to think about whether or not I would take over the PDML.
> 
> Some time that night the PDML broke.
> 
> The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the guy who 
> worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA website and was 
> the only one there who knew the list software and how it interfaced with the 
> website was off on Christmas vacation and the server was down and hey, she 
> would email me a list of everyone who was subscribed to the PDML. Good luck 
> and godspeed, it was now my baby.
> 
> I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm grateful 
> for it.
> 
> Happy New Year, kids.
> 
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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Bill]

Those were the days, I'll tell you.
Whowhowho can forget mafud, or greene, or how many other aliases did he 
have?

I even still had some hair back then.

bill


On 02-Jan-21 12:26 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

sort of.

During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum 
project for a local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a friend 
and Pentax sales guy some of you will remember from GFM. He told me 
that Pentax USA, which carried the PAML and PDML on its website, was 
looking to get out of the email list game because of potential 
liability issues arising from unsanctioned and borderline dangerously 
irresponsible technical and repair advice getting posted to the PDML.


Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought 
about a few members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or 
two, who pretty much laughed, and I reported back to Don that there 
didn't seem to be much interest. He said ok.


A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at 
Pentax called to tell me she had heard from Don that I would like to 
be considered for the role of List Guy. After a long pause, followed 
by some muttering and me repeating "wait, what?" a few times, the nice 
woman in marketing assured me that Don said I was very interested.


That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.

I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the 
imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how 
to run an email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent 
and liked it that way, and so on.


The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I 
begrudgingly agreed that I would download some list software packages 
and see if I could make any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd get 
back to her in a week or so with my decision. The nice woman in 
marketing rang off.


That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it, and 
poked around for a few minutes until I had to do something with my 
actual job. The only thing I had really discerned from my brief time 
with the software was that I was out of my depth and needed some 
serious hours with it before I could even begin to think about whether 
or not I would take over the PDML.


Some time that night the PDML broke.

The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the 
guy who worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA 
website and was the only one there who knew the list software and how 
it interfaced with the website was off on Christmas vacation and the 
server was down and hey, she would email me a list of everyone who was 
subscribed to the PDML. Good luck and godspeed, it was now my baby.


I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm 
grateful for it.


Happy New Year, kids.







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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Alan C]

What a story. Long before my association with the PDML. Well done, Doug.

Alan C

On 02-Jan-21 12:26 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

sort of.

During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum 
project for a local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a friend 
and Pentax sales guy some of you will remember from GFM. He told me 
that Pentax USA, which carried the PAML and PDML on its website, was 
looking to get out of the email list game because of potential 
liability issues arising from unsanctioned and borderline dangerously 
irresponsible technical and repair advice getting posted to the PDML.


Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought 
about a few members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or 
two, who pretty much laughed, and I reported back to Don that there 
didn't seem to be much interest. He said ok.


A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at 
Pentax called to tell me she had heard from Don that I would like to 
be considered for the role of List Guy. After a long pause, followed 
by some muttering and me repeating "wait, what?" a few times, the nice 
woman in marketing assured me that Don said I was very interested.


That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.

I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the 
imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how 
to run an email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent 
and liked it that way, and so on.


The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I 
begrudgingly agreed that I would download some list software packages 
and see if I could make any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd get 
back to her in a week or so with my decision. The nice woman in 
marketing rang off.


That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it, and 
poked around for a few minutes until I had to do something with my 
actual job. The only thing I had really discerned from my brief time 
with the software was that I was out of my depth and needed some 
serious hours with it before I could even begin to think about whether 
or not I would take over the PDML.


Some time that night the PDML broke.

The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the 
guy who worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA 
website and was the only one there who knew the list software and how 
it interfaced with the website was off on Christmas vacation and the 
server was down and hey, she would email me a list of everyone who was 
subscribed to the PDML. Good luck and godspeed, it was now my baby.


I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm 
grateful for it.


Happy New Year, kids.




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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[mike wilson]

> On 01 January 2021 at 22:26 Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> 
 
> I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm 
> grateful for it.
> 
> Happy New Year, kids.

So, even though you're a dead-ringer for said Sergeant, you're actually Santa?  
Works for me and I'm also exceptionally grapefruit.  Long may you (and it) 
continue.

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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Larry Colen]

> On Jan 1, 2021, at 4:18 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
> 
> I guess it's better than being a kumquat.

kumquatly and don’t make a fuss.


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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Dan Matyola
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I guess it's better than being a kumquat.

On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 6:17 PM mike wilson  wrote:

>
> > On 01 January 2021 at 22:26 Doug Brewer 
> wrote:
>
> So, even though you're a dead-ringer for said Sergeant, you're actually
> Santa?  Works for me and I'm also exceptionally grapefruit.
>
>
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RE: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[jcoyle]

And a huge thank you for taking it on and keeping it going, Doug.
Where would we be without you?


John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: PDML  On Behalf Of Doug Brewer
Sent: Saturday, 2 January 2021 8:26 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

sort of.

During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum project 
for a local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a friend and 
Pentax sales guy some of you will remember from GFM. He told me that 
Pentax USA, which carried the PAML and PDML on its website, was looking 
to get out of the email list game because of potential liability issues 
arising from unsanctioned and borderline dangerously irresponsible 
technical and repair advice getting posted to the PDML.

Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought about 
a few members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or two, who 
pretty much laughed, and I reported back to Don that there didn't seem 
to be much interest. He said ok.

A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at 
Pentax called to tell me she had heard from Don that I would like to be 
considered for the role of List Guy. After a long pause, followed by 
some muttering and me repeating "wait, what?" a few times, the nice 
woman in marketing assured me that Don said I was very interested.

That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.

I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the 
imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how to 
run an email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent and 
liked it that way, and so on.

The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I 
begrudgingly agreed that I would download some list software packages 
and see if I could make any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd get 
back to her in a week or so with my decision. The nice woman in 
marketing rang off.

That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it, and 
poked around for a few minutes until I had to do something with my 
actual job. The only thing I had really discerned from my brief time 
with the software was that I was out of my depth and needed some serious 
hours with it before I could even begin to think about whether or not I 
would take over the PDML.

Some time that night the PDML broke.

The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the guy 
who worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA website 
and was the only one there who knew the list software and how it 
interfaced with the website was off on Christmas vacation and the server 
was down and hey, she would email me a list of everyone who was 
subscribed to the PDML. Good luck and godspeed, it was now my baby.

I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm 
grateful for it.

Happy New Year, kids.

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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Larry Colen]

> On Jan 1, 2021, at 2:26 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> 
> The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the guy who 
> worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA website and was 
> the only one there who knew the list software and how it interfaced with the 
> website was off on Christmas vacation and the server was down and hey, she 
> would email me a list of everyone who was subscribed to the PDML. Good luck 
> and godspeed, it was now my baby.
> 
> I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm grateful 
> for it.
> 
> Happy New Year, kids.

I certainly thank you for your insufficient reluctance at a critical juncture.  
Thanks to you I have met, at least virtually a world spanning group of friends.

Last night I was thinking about it, and I’m pretty certain that the sun never 
sets on the PDML.  By the same token, there is always at least one member of 
the PDML that is in the dark.


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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Bob Pdml]

Thanks. If it’s any consolation, since you’ve been fixing the holes it’s been 
getting better all the time, even without a little help from your friends, and 
we didn’t notice that the lights had changed. You never know what you have 
within you; without you we’d be Fanqued.

I imagine the nice woman in marketing must have had kaleidoscope eyes. 
Hopefully you enquired discreetly when she’d be free to take some tea with thee.

Not always good to be reminded how long we’ve been hanging around here. I’ve 
got older, lost my hair many years ago and in a few months I’ll be 64... 


> On 1 Jan 2021, at 22:26, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> sort of.
> 
> During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum project for a 
> local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a friend and Pentax sales guy 
> some of you will remember from GFM. He told me that Pentax USA, which carried 
> the PAML and PDML on its website, was looking to get out of the email list 
> game because of potential liability issues arising from unsanctioned and 
> borderline dangerously irresponsible technical and repair advice getting 
> posted to the PDML.
> 
> Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought about a few 
> members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or two, who pretty much 
> laughed, and I reported back to Don that there didn't seem to be much 
> interest. He said ok.
> 
> A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at Pentax 
> called to tell me she had heard from Don that I would like to be considered 
> for the role of List Guy. After a long pause, followed by some muttering and 
> me repeating "wait, what?" a few times, the nice woman in marketing assured 
> me that Don said I was very interested.
> 
> That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.
> 
> I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the 
> imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how to run 
> an email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent and liked it 
> that way, and so on.
> 
> The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I 
> begrudgingly agreed that I would download some list software packages and see 
> if I could make any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd get back to her in 
> a week or so with my decision. The nice woman in marketing rang off.
> 
> That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it, and poked 
> around for a few minutes until I had to do something with my actual job. The 
> only thing I had really discerned from my brief time with the software was 
> that I was out of my depth and needed some serious hours with it before I 
> could even begin to think about whether or not I would take over the PDML.
> 
> Some time that night the PDML broke.
> 
> The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the guy who 
> worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA website and was 
> the only one there who knew the list software and how it interfaced with the 
> website was off on Christmas vacation and the server was down and hey, she 
> would email me a list of everyone who was subscribed to the PDML. Good luck 
> and godspeed, it was now my baby.
> 
> I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm grateful 
> for it.
> 
> Happy New Year, kids.
> 
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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks for 20 great years. I had been subscribed for less than a year I think 
and didn’t want to see it go away. You saved the list, and my memory may
be faulty but I don’t recall a lot of hiccups. Well done sir

Paul

> On Jan 1, 2021, at 5:27 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> sort of.
> 
> During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum project for a 
> local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a friend and Pentax sales guy 
> some of you will remember from GFM. He told me that Pentax USA, which carried 
> the PAML and PDML on its website, was looking to get out of the email list 
> game because of potential liability issues arising from unsanctioned and 
> borderline dangerously irresponsible technical and repair advice getting 
> posted to the PDML.
> 
> Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought about a few 
> members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or two, who pretty much 
> laughed, and I reported back to Don that there didn't seem to be much 
> interest. He said ok.
> 
> A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at Pentax 
> called to tell me she had heard from Don that I would like to be considered 
> for the role of List Guy. After a long pause, followed by some muttering and 
> me repeating "wait, what?" a few times, the nice woman in marketing assured 
> me that Don said I was very interested.
> 
> That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.
> 
> I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the 
> imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how to run 
> an email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent and liked it 
> that way, and so on.
> 
> The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I 
> begrudgingly agreed that I would download some list software packages and see 
> if I could make any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd get back to her in 
> a week or so with my decision. The nice woman in marketing rang off.
> 
> That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it, and poked 
> around for a few minutes until I had to do something with my actual job. The 
> only thing I had really discerned from my brief time with the software was 
> that I was out of my depth and needed some serious hours with it before I 
> could even begin to think about whether or not I would take over the PDML.
> 
> Some time that night the PDML broke.
> 
> The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the guy who 
> worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA website and was 
> the only one there who knew the list software and how it interfaced with the 
> website was off on Christmas vacation and the server was down and hey, she 
> would email me a list of everyone who was subscribed to the PDML. Good luck 
> and godspeed, it was now my baby.
> 
> I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm grateful 
> for it.
> 
> Happy New Year, kids.
> 
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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Rick Womer]

Doug,

I started with the Pentax group on CompuServe in the mid-1980s, using a Mac II 
and dial-up modem in the lab.

I am ~very~ grateful that Don, and then you, have kept things going. I have had 
fun and learned a lot.

May all of us, and the list itself, have a safe and prosperous 2021.

Rick

> On Jan 1, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> sort of.
> 
> During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum project for a 
> local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a friend and Pentax sales guy 
> some of you will remember from GFM. He told me that Pentax USA, which carried 
> the PAML and PDML on its website, was looking to get out of the email list 
> game because of potential liability issues arising from unsanctioned and 
> borderline dangerously irresponsible technical and repair advice getting 
> posted to the PDML.
> 
> Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought about a few 
> members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or two, who pretty much 
> laughed, and I reported back to Don that there didn't seem to be much 
> interest. He said ok.
> 
> A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at Pentax 
> called to tell me she had heard from Don that I would like to be considered 
> for the role of List Guy. After a long pause, followed by some muttering and 
> me repeating "wait, what?" a few times, the nice woman in marketing assured 
> me that Don said I was very interested.
> 
> That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.
> 
> I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the 
> imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how to run 
> an email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent and liked it 
> that way, and so on.
> 
> The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I 
> begrudgingly agreed that I would download some list software packages and see 
> if I could make any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd get back to her in 
> a week or so with my decision. The nice woman in marketing rang off.
> 
> That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it, and poked 
> around for a few minutes until I had to do something with my actual job. The 
> only thing I had really discerned from my brief time with the software was 
> that I was out of my depth and needed some serious hours with it before I 
> could even begin to think about whether or not I would take over the PDML.
> 
> Some time that night the PDML broke.
> 
> The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the guy who 
> worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA website and was 
> the only one there who knew the list software and how it interfaced with the 
> website was off on Christmas vacation and the server was down and hey, she 
> would email me a list of everyone who was subscribed to the PDML. Good luck 
> and godspeed, it was now my baby.
> 
> I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm grateful 
> for it.
> 
> Happy New Year, kids.
> 
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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I am also grateful that, despite all reason, you stepped up and took over!

Dan Matyola
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*



On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 5:26 PM Doug Brewer  wrote:

> sort of.
>
> During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum project
> for a local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a friend and
> Pentax sales guy some of you will remember from GFM. He told me that
> Pentax USA, which carried the PAML and PDML on its website, was looking
> to get out of the email list game because of potential liability issues
> arising from unsanctioned and borderline dangerously irresponsible
> technical and repair advice getting posted to the PDML.
>
> Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought about
> a few members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or two, who
> pretty much laughed, and I reported back to Don that there didn't seem
> to be much interest. He said ok.
>
> A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at
> Pentax called to tell me she had heard from Don that I would like to be
> considered for the role of List Guy. After a long pause, followed by
> some muttering and me repeating "wait, what?" a few times, the nice
> woman in marketing assured me that Don said I was very interested.
>
> That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.
>
> I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the
> imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how to
> run an email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent and
> liked it that way, and so on.
>
> The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I
> begrudgingly agreed that I would download some list software packages
> and see if I could make any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd get
> back to her in a week or so with my decision. The nice woman in
> marketing rang off.
>
> That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it, and
> poked around for a few minutes until I had to do something with my
> actual job. The only thing I had really discerned from my brief time
> with the software was that I was out of my depth and needed some serious
> hours with it before I could even begin to think about whether or not I
> would take over the PDML.
>
> Some time that night the PDML broke.
>
> The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the guy
> who worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA website
> and was the only one there who knew the list software and how it
> interfaced with the website was off on Christmas vacation and the server
> was down and hey, she would email me a list of everyone who was
> subscribed to the PDML. Good luck and godspeed, it was now my baby.
>
> I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm
> grateful for it.
>
> Happy New Year, kids.
>
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