Re: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street
I was not out photographing by myself the day that pic was made. My companion seemed anxious to move on, so I did, although with the intent (and we all know how intentions often work out) of returning and spending more time with him. Maybe I'll run into him again ... I'd like to go back with some real film (Tri-X and APX 100) and spend a day there. frank theriault wrote: Hey, listen, I don't think it would matter how many you shot of that guy, the one you got is a keeper. Maybe you ~should~ have shot more, but by this result, you didn't ~need~ to.
Re: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street
At 04:58 PM 3/8/2004 -0800, you wrote: I was using Ilford XP-2 ... based on the other frames, I'm not sure that I like it. This was the first time using it. Tri-X it ain't ... What ISO did you use with the XP-2? Some time ago Mark D. told me to rate it much slower than the 400 recommended by Ilford. When I use it I rate it at ISO 200, and the results seem to be quite good. Better than at 400. Last year, one of the instructors in the photo program I was taking told me he had extensively tested this film and found ISO 125 to be the ideal for it. - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street
Thanks, Bill ... maybe another chromogenic for when i want to use that type of film would be a better choice. There's only KOdak, right? shel William Robb wrote: SB: How do the highlights look @ 200? I'm a little SB: concerned that they might be blown out. XP-2 is almost impossible to blow out. It just doesn't develop that much dye density. It is the closest thing to Panatomic-X I have found WRT portraiture flesh tones. Having said that, I hate the stuff. The emulsion is very soft, and scratches quite easily, and if it is machine dried it is prone to dryer reticulation.
Re: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street
If it is anything like XP-1 was it would be best shot at 1600 or 3200. Not great until you compare it to regular films at those ratings and blown up 16x. Back in the old days I used XP-1 extensively. I have never shot a roll of XP-2 however. -- Mark Dalal wrote: From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] What ISO did you use with the XP-2? Some time ago Mark D. told me to rate it much slower than the 400 recommended by Ilford. When I use it I rate it at ISO 200, and the results seem to be quite good. Better than at 400. Last year, one of the instructors in the photo program I was taking told me he had extensively tested this film and found ISO 125 to be the ideal for it. After shooting this film a bit more, I've changed my attitude about it. When I've overated the film in a studio situation (soft, even, precisely measured flash lighting), I've hated the results. It was a difficult film to scan and print. When I've overated it in high contrast, more variable light situations, I've been more happy with it. For example, the full res scans of pics in this gallery show a really nice level of detail and sharpness as well as handling of high contrast lighting. http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=374206 Mark -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street Thanks, Bill ... maybe another chromogenic for when i want to use that type of film would be a better choice. There's only KOdak, right? They aren't as dye stable as a regular colour film, and nowhere near as stable as black and white film though. Konica makes a nice one too, though it can be a bit hard to print on some automated machines because the mask is so light. William Robb
Re: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street
Shel, you caught a great expression there. What did you do to elicit it? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street I went into San Francisco before the weekend, and grabbed a few shots on Market Street. This was one of them. I've not done anything much with it ... it's not much more than the way the low rez scan came off the CD, but I like the character enough to post it here as a proof print. I was using Ilford XP-2 ... based on the other frames, I'm not sure that I like it. This was the first time using it. Tri-X it ain't ... http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/man.html Comments are welcome, as usual. shel
RE: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street
Is the hand signal supposed to be hang ten or call me? It is a great shot. I love this type of off the cuff portrait. David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 5:58 PM To: PDML Subject: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street I went into San Francisco before the weekend, and grabbed a few shots on Market Street. This was one of them. I've not done anything much with it ... it's not much more than the way the low rez scan came off the CD, but I like the character enough to post it here as a proof print. I was using Ilford XP-2 ... based on the other frames, I'm not sure that I like it. This was the first time using it. Tri-X it ain't ... http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/man.html Comments are welcome, as usual. shel
RE: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street
Wonderful shot. He has such an expressive face, a big smile. You caught it perfectly. I like the hand, finger pointing, out of focus but there. I'd say it's an almost perfect street portrait. Terrific. thanks, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 16:58:21 -0800 I went into San Francisco before the weekend, and grabbed a few shots on Market Street. This was one of them. I've not done anything much with it ... it's not much more than the way the low rez scan came off the CD, but I like the character enough to post it here as a proof print. I was using Ilford XP-2 ... based on the other frames, I'm not sure that I like it. This was the first time using it. Tri-X it ain't ... http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/man.html Comments are welcome, as usual. shel _ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street
Frank, The 90mm really allows for some nice selective focus on the street. I was shooting at 4.0 and 5.6 all day. Thanks for your kind words ... ;-)) shel frank theriault wrote: Wonderful shot. He has such an expressive face, a big smile. You caught it perfectly. I like the hand, finger pointing, out of focus but there. I'd say it's an almost perfect street portrait. Terrific. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/man.html
Re: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street
Don't know ... he was just gesturing ... we were talking about his piano and maybe meeting a little later, but he just disappeared. And, not taking my own advice, I only grabbed this one shot ... shel David Madsen wrote: Is the hand signal supposed to be hang ten or call me? It is a great shot. I love this type of off the cuff portrait.
Re: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street
I don't know ... just talked for a moment ... he seemed to be a pretty happy fella ;-)) Kenneth Waller wrote: Shel, you caught a great expression there. What did you do to elicit it? http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/man.html
Re: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street
Ah Ha! I was going to say something, but I won't... vbg -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip And, not taking my own advice, I only grabbed this one shot ... _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street
Hey, I'd deserve it ... frank theriault wrote: Ah Ha! I was going to say something, but I won't...
Re: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street
Hey, listen, I don't think it would matter how many you shot of that guy, the one you got is a keeper. Maybe you ~should~ have shot more, but by this result, you didn't ~need~ to. IMHO, anyway. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kinda Paw: Man on the Street Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 20:24:36 -0800 Hey, I'd deserve it ... frank theriault wrote: Ah Ha! I was going to say something, but I won't... _ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
