Re: MZ-S Questions
The Viewfinder is definately better on the MZ-S that the PZ1-p, much easier to focus in low light. I'd say in the Pentax line up the MZ-S is only second to the LX in this respect and then only by a very small margan. > >How is the viewfinder compared to an LX, ME Super, PZ1-p, Nikon N90s, F100, > >F5?? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Questions
>How is the viewfinder compared to an LX, ME Super, PZ1-p, Nikon N90s, F100, >F5?? I tried the MZ-S few days ago, again. The lens was F135/2.8 IF. The viewfinder was sharp, seems sharper than Z-1p. But I didn't have the Z-1p with me so it's not a side by side comparsion. One good thing about the MZ-S viewfinder is that the eyepiece is coated glass. That means you can wipe it without scratch, unlike other Z/PZ or MZ/ZX bodies. regards, Alan Chan _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S Questions
Hi Pat, Thanks for the info. You are right! I went back last night and checked all of the lenses. Only the third party lenses, such as the Tamrom Adaptall SP90mm 2.8, combine the highest f-stop with the auto setting. For this particulal lens, f32 is combined with the Auto mode. This does not pose a problem with the earlier Pentax bodies, but the MZ-S automatically switches to "P" or "Tv" mode in this Auto setting. Even after resetting the MZ-S, with the little green button on the front of the body, it reverts back to "P" or "Tv." Also, thanks for clarifying the operatin of the 2P PC adapter. Since the manual does not address its functionality, I was unclear as to whether it had the high speed sync capabliity. Jason -Original Message- From: Pat White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: MZ-S Questions - Original Message - From: Pat White To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:41 PM Subject: Re: MZ-S Questions Jason, I'm not sure what you're seeing, but all the Pentax lenses with an 'A' setting that I'm aware of have the 'A' setting beside f22, not linked with it. You can set 'A', or you can set f22. There should be no conflict. Most Pentax lenses require you to press the lock button to reach the 'A' position, but the 28-200 doesn't (you just turn it past f22). I've used my old Bellows K with the MZ-S. As Bruce mentioned, the base of the camera interferes with the bellows, so you have to loosen the locking ring on the bellows and set it to shoot vertical format, which I don't find to be an inconvenience for the rare times that I use it. I would expect that you could use any bellows unit that allows you to rotate it to a vertical orientation. With the K bellows at least, you can use manual or aperture-priority, but not program or shutter-priority. When you mention 2P sync, are you referring to the 2P PC adapter? That's the hotshoe adapter that provides a PC outlet for cameras that don't have one. It's a simple PC connector, and sync speeds would be as normal, i.e. any speed up to 1/180 for the MZ-S. High-speed sync would call for automation that a PC connector can't provide. Hope this is helpful. Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Questions
Hi Jason, I can answer a few of your points. Point 1. Overriding the A from the lens, means going into M (manual) or Tv (shutter priority)and is done using the dial on the body. the green button on the front of the body will bring you back to Program. There is no way to get aperture priority from the body (answering also point 3) Not sure about the max F number, could be your lens not giving correct info to the body. I vaguely remember a similar discussion on the list but not suresurely a list member will give an answer ". Bellows, I guess a Pentax/3rd party kmount bellows are available 2nd hand, but not sure you'll find ones (if they were ever made) maintaing any program features... to double check you could check out: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/index.html 4. No help there.. Hope it been some help Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S questions
Yes, the Kodak gray card has 18% reflectance, but Kodak has acknowledged that one should meter off the card and open up a half stop, because meters are calibrated to 13%, and its instructions for use are to changed soon if not already done. This comment based on fairly recent reports by Ctein on his correspondence with Kodak. Bob Tom Rittenhouse wrote: > > Strange, Kodak seems to think their gray card has 18% > reflectance. 18% is the average reflectance taken from many > scenes. Where do you come up with something different? > --Tom - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S questions
- Original Message - From: "Tom Rittenhouse" < Subject: Re: MZ-S questions > Strange, Kodak seems to think their gray card has 18% > reflectance. 18% is the average reflectance taken from many > scenes. Where do you come up with something different? > --Tom I have heard exactly the same thing from a Ryerson Polytech Graduate. I don't know if it is urban myth or truth though. Gray cards do reflect 18% of the light, but whether that is what meters are calibrated to is another subject entirely. William Robb Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up. Please see: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html for more information. Submission deadline is June 30, 2001 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S questions
Yes, read Bob Shell's excellent artical on Seknoic meters on page 56 of July issue of "Shutterbug." He explains how we got to the Kodak 18% gray card, and how we had accepted it as a standard. But the camera manufactures never accepted 18% gray and still set the meters in the cameras at 13%. Darryl Tom Rittenhouse wrote: > Strange, Kodak seems to think their gray card has 18% > reflectance. 18% is the average reflectance taken from many > scenes. Where do you come up with something different? > --Tom > > Darryl Lafferty wrote: > > > > Ramesh Kumar_C wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > These questions are about MZ-S. > > > 1) > > > Camera being in SPOT Metering mode, when I select different focus point, > > > does the SPOT Metering area too change with the focus point? > > > > The spot metering point stay in the center of the frame it does not move to the > > focus points. > > > > > 2) > > > Assume I am shooting a flat surface having different illumination at > > > different parts. > > > I select the focus point which is on dark area and do MULTI SEGMENT > > > metering. > > > Then I select the focus point which is on bright area and do MULTI SEGMENT > > > metering. > > > Do the metering readings be same? > > > > The Multi Segment is going to read the entire frame from each of six segments > > and set the exposure based on computer logic of the program established by the > > camera manufacture. The multi segment is a compromise exposure at best. > > Metering is really an art. Every camera meter is set to an 13% Gray (not 18% > > as most people think.) If you metered off a 13% gray surface for every > > exposure you would have a perfect exposure. If you meter off a white surface > > the meter will think it is a gray and the exposure will come out dark. If you > > meter off black the surface will meter will again think it is gray and the > > exposure will come out overexposed. Therefore, I use the spot metering and > > adjust depending on the color. Light colors get plus above the meter reading > > and dark colors get a stop down from the camera reading. If you are going to > > use the multi segment meter I would recommend bracketing. > > > > > > > > > > > I had visited http://royalcamera.com/, they charge 799USD for camera(MZ-S), > > > which is less compared > > > to others on-line sites, but shipping is cost 59USD. They seems to make > > > money from shipping. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Ramesh > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Darryl Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 3:04 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: MZ-S questions > > > > > > The shutter release on the MZ-S is faster than on the PZ1. The entire > > > operation of the MZ-S is quiter than the PZ1. Advance and rewind are > > > really quite. In my opinion the view finder is not affect by by bright > > > sun light. The screen is much brighter than the PZ1. I have had no > > > problem with wearing glasses. The metering was very accurate and > > > predictable. > > > > > > Darryl > > > > > > Andreas Wirtz wrote: > > > > > > > Sorry if these questions were already discussed. Even > > > > I handled one of first MZ-S I would be very glad if > > > > anyone can answer me. > > > > > > > > What is shutter delay (comparing with Z-1 or MZ-5)? > > > > Is camera noisy when rewinding (comparing to Z-1 or > > > > MZ-5)? > > > > Are informations in display visible even on bright > > > > sunlight! > > > > Does light coming from viewfinder disturb camera's > > > > metering system (when photographer is wearing > > > > glasses). > > > > Are there any modifications on camera's hot shoe for > > > > mounting flash which would cause flash not to fall > > > > down when slightly unscrewed. > > > > > > > > Best wishes! > > > > > > > > Andreas Wirtz > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > > > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > - > > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow th
Re: MZ-S questions
Strange, Kodak seems to think their gray card has 18% reflectance. 18% is the average reflectance taken from many scenes. Where do you come up with something different? --Tom Darryl Lafferty wrote: > > Ramesh Kumar_C wrote: > > > Hi > > These questions are about MZ-S. > > 1) > > Camera being in SPOT Metering mode, when I select different focus point, > > does the SPOT Metering area too change with the focus point? > > The spot metering point stay in the center of the frame it does not move to the > focus points. > > > 2) > > Assume I am shooting a flat surface having different illumination at > > different parts. > > I select the focus point which is on dark area and do MULTI SEGMENT > > metering. > > Then I select the focus point which is on bright area and do MULTI SEGMENT > > metering. > > Do the metering readings be same? > > The Multi Segment is going to read the entire frame from each of six segments > and set the exposure based on computer logic of the program established by the > camera manufacture. The multi segment is a compromise exposure at best. > Metering is really an art. Every camera meter is set to an 13% Gray (not 18% > as most people think.) If you metered off a 13% gray surface for every > exposure you would have a perfect exposure. If you meter off a white surface > the meter will think it is a gray and the exposure will come out dark. If you > meter off black the surface will meter will again think it is gray and the > exposure will come out overexposed. Therefore, I use the spot metering and > adjust depending on the color. Light colors get plus above the meter reading > and dark colors get a stop down from the camera reading. If you are going to > use the multi segment meter I would recommend bracketing. > > > > > > > I had visited http://royalcamera.com/, they charge 799USD for camera(MZ-S), > > which is less compared > > to others on-line sites, but shipping is cost 59USD. They seems to make > > money from shipping. > > > > Thanks > > Ramesh > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Darryl Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 3:04 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: MZ-S questions > > > > The shutter release on the MZ-S is faster than on the PZ1. The entire > > operation of the MZ-S is quiter than the PZ1. Advance and rewind are > > really quite. In my opinion the view finder is not affect by by bright > > sun light. The screen is much brighter than the PZ1. I have had no > > problem with wearing glasses. The metering was very accurate and > > predictable. > > > > Darryl > > > > Andreas Wirtz wrote: > > > > > Sorry if these questions were already discussed. Even > > > I handled one of first MZ-S I would be very glad if > > > anyone can answer me. > > > > > > What is shutter delay (comparing with Z-1 or MZ-5)? > > > Is camera noisy when rewinding (comparing to Z-1 or > > > MZ-5)? > > > Are informations in display visible even on bright > > > sunlight! > > > Does light coming from viewfinder disturb camera's > > > metering system (when photographer is wearing > > > glasses). > > > Are there any modifications on camera's hot shoe for > > > mounting flash which would cause flash not to fall > > > down when slightly unscrewed. > > > > > > Best wishes! > > > > > > Andreas Wirtz > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > - > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S questions
Ramesh Kumar_C wrote: > Hi > These questions are about MZ-S. > 1) > Camera being in SPOT Metering mode, when I select different focus point, > does the SPOT Metering area too change with the focus point? The spot metering point stay in the center of the frame it does not move to the focus points. > 2) > Assume I am shooting a flat surface having different illumination at > different parts. > I select the focus point which is on dark area and do MULTI SEGMENT > metering. > Then I select the focus point which is on bright area and do MULTI SEGMENT > metering. > Do the metering readings be same? The Multi Segment is going to read the entire frame from each of six segments and set the exposure based on computer logic of the program established by the camera manufacture. The multi segment is a compromise exposure at best. Metering is really an art. Every camera meter is set to an 13% Gray (not 18% as most people think.) If you metered off a 13% gray surface for every exposure you would have a perfect exposure. If you meter off a white surface the meter will think it is a gray and the exposure will come out dark. If you meter off black the surface will meter will again think it is gray and the exposure will come out overexposed. Therefore, I use the spot metering and adjust depending on the color. Light colors get plus above the meter reading and dark colors get a stop down from the camera reading. If you are going to use the multi segment meter I would recommend bracketing. > > > I had visited http://royalcamera.com/, they charge 799USD for camera(MZ-S), > which is less compared > to others on-line sites, but shipping is cost 59USD. They seems to make > money from shipping. > > Thanks > Ramesh > > -Original Message- > From: Darryl Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 3:04 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: MZ-S questions > > The shutter release on the MZ-S is faster than on the PZ1. The entire > operation of the MZ-S is quiter than the PZ1. Advance and rewind are > really quite. In my opinion the view finder is not affect by by bright > sun light. The screen is much brighter than the PZ1. I have had no > problem with wearing glasses. The metering was very accurate and > predictable. > > Darryl > > Andreas Wirtz wrote: > > > Sorry if these questions were already discussed. Even > > I handled one of first MZ-S I would be very glad if > > anyone can answer me. > > > > What is shutter delay (comparing with Z-1 or MZ-5)? > > Is camera noisy when rewinding (comparing to Z-1 or > > MZ-5)? > > Are informations in display visible even on bright > > sunlight! > > Does light coming from viewfinder disturb camera's > > metering system (when photographer is wearing > > glasses). > > Are there any modifications on camera's hot shoe for > > mounting flash which would cause flash not to fall > > down when slightly unscrewed. > > > > Best wishes! > > > > Andreas Wirtz > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S questions
Brilliant! Thanks Darryl. The answer to your question is yes to allow easy viewing with glasses. I have no problem seeing the entire viewfinder with the MZ-S with my glasses on. Where the I could not see the entire frame of the viewfinder on the PZ1. EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S questions
The answer to your question is yes to allow easy viewing with glasses. I have no problem seeing the entire viewfinder with the MZ-S with my glasses on. Where the I could not see the entire frame of the viewfinder on the PZ1. Darryl "McRae, Max MS" wrote: > Darryl Lafferty wrote: > > The screen is much brighter than the PZ1. I have had no > problem with wearing glasses. The metering was very accurate and > predictable. > > Darryl, > > As a fellow spectacle wearer, is the eye relief sufficient to allow > easy viewing? > > I personally find the Z1p does not have enough eye relief for me, and > hoped that the MZS is a little more generous in this aspect. > > Max > > Auckland , NZ > > EOM > > NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the >addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are >not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not >disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this >message in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S questions
Hi These questions are about MZ-S. 1) Camera being in SPOT Metering mode, when I select different focus point, does the SPOT Metering area too change with the focus point? 2) Assume I am shooting a flat surface having different illumination at different parts. I select the focus point which is on dark area and do MULTI SEGMENT metering. Then I select the focus point which is on bright area and do MULTI SEGMENT metering. Do the metering readings be same? I had visited http://royalcamera.com/, they charge 799USD for camera(MZ-S), which is less compared to others on-line sites, but shipping is cost 59USD. They seems to make money from shipping. Thanks Ramesh -Original Message- From: Darryl Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 3:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-S questions The shutter release on the MZ-S is faster than on the PZ1. The entire operation of the MZ-S is quiter than the PZ1. Advance and rewind are really quite. In my opinion the view finder is not affect by by bright sun light. The screen is much brighter than the PZ1. I have had no problem with wearing glasses. The metering was very accurate and predictable. Darryl Andreas Wirtz wrote: > Sorry if these questions were already discussed. Even > I handled one of first MZ-S I would be very glad if > anyone can answer me. > > What is shutter delay (comparing with Z-1 or MZ-5)? > Is camera noisy when rewinding (comparing to Z-1 or > MZ-5)? > Are informations in display visible even on bright > sunlight! > Does light coming from viewfinder disturb camera's > metering system (when photographer is wearing > glasses). > Are there any modifications on camera's hot shoe for > mounting flash which would cause flash not to fall > down when slightly unscrewed. > > Best wishes! > > Andreas Wirtz > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
