Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
on 05.04.02 20:45, Chris Brogden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MZ-S is metal, is quiet and has spot metering. Quiet is pretty subjective. I don't find Pentax's AF quiet at all, even in the MZ-S. The noise is hardly noticeable when the lens locks focus quickly, but when the camera has to hunt to achieve focus it's quite loud. This is one area where Canon excels and Nikon isn't bad. Nikon is quiet only as long as you use expensive AF-S lenses. Otherwise its AF is only slightly quieter than in Pentax. -- Best regards Sylwester Pietrzyk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Chris wrote: Doesn't the Z-1p have a metal chassis and spot metering? Yes it does. However, the cheesy outer plastic cover doesn't give that metal or quality feel. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Bruce wrote: Why not just buy a Pentax Spotmeter to use with your favorite bodies? I can see several reasons why not: the point of small Pentax bodies seems quite pointless if you have to carry a rather bulky spotmeter as well; you loose automatic functions while spot metering; no compensation for filters and/or extension. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Pål Audun Jensen wrote: Doesn't the Z-1p have a metal chassis and spot metering? Yes it does. However, the cheesy outer plastic cover doesn't give that metal or quality feel. True enough. I remember how surprised I was when you mentioned earlier that it had a metal chassis... I never suspected that. I've almost given up hope that Pentax will come out with an AF camera that I like (they're all way too noisy, and I'm not happy with the controls), but an LX with spot metering... ah, there's something to dream about. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Buy a Pentax Spotmeter V. You can usually pick one up for around $100 used. Paul Steve Pearson wrote: Hi all-Sorry for the simiar post again. I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that has spot metering? I think it really bites that I have to spend $800 on an MZ-S? Any other suggestions out there? Thanks for the help...still searching... Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
It certainly does. Len --- -Original Message- From: Chris Brogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:22 PM To: Pentax Mail List Subject: Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering? On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Steve Pearson wrote: I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that has spot metering? I think it really bites that I have to spend $800 on an MZ-S? Doesn't the Z-1p have a metal chassis and spot metering? chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Some one from the list took a PZ1P apart one time and it does have a metal body or at least a metal framing. - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:27 PM To: Pentax Mail List Subject: Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering? On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Steve Pearson wrote: I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that has spot metering? I think it really bites that I have to spend $800 on an MZ-S? Doesn't the Z-1p have a metal chassis and spot metering? chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Chris wrote: True enough. I remember how surprised I was when you mentioned earlier that it had a metal chassis... I never suspected that. The chassis can be seen when looking in near the lens mount where the DOF lever is. I've almost given up hope that Pentax will come out with an AF camera that I like (they're all way too noisy, and I'm not happy with the controls), but an LX with spot metering... ah, there's something to dream about. The MZ-S is metal, is quiet and has spot metering. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Steve wrote: Why didn't they ever make one? Just curious.. Because back in the metal camera days, spot metering wasn't that hot. Spot metering didn't really become common until the plastic fantastic days. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
The in-body spot meters are 3 degree. Almost small area rather than spot. Then hand-held meter is 1 degree. There's a vast improvement available with separates. Collin -- Collin Brendemuehl, KC8TKA --- Get over it. Dr. Laura -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Must depend on which lens you're using. It's about 2.5% of the area on the MZ-S, and together with eg. a 300 mm lens this gives slightly less than 1 degree spot area (if I did my calculus correctly...). /Erik -Original Message- From: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 5 april 2002 14:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering? The in-body spot meters are 3 degree. Almost small area rather than spot. Then hand-held meter is 1 degree. There's a vast improvement available with separates. Collin -- Collin Brendemuehl, KC8TKA --- Get over it. Dr. Laura -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
HAR! Bill. I find it interesting, how many out there just got to have this feature or that feature. You know, it seems to have gotten to the point where the druggies won't even steal your camera if it doesn't have the right features. But then, my mother was like that about kitchen stoves. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:50 AM Subject: Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering? - Original Message - From: Steve Pearson Subject: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering? I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that has spot metering? I think it really bites that I have to spend $800 on an MZ-S? Any other suggestions out there? Spot meters are over rated, unless you are truly anal retentive. However: A Pentax 1º spot meter. Preferably Zone VI modified. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Pål Audun Jensen wrote: Chris wrote: I've almost given up hope that Pentax will come out with an AF camera that I like (they're all way too noisy, and I'm not happy with the controls), but an LX with spot metering... ah, there's something to dream about. The MZ-S is metal, is quiet and has spot metering. Quiet is pretty subjective. I don't find Pentax's AF quiet at all, even in the MZ-S. The noise is hardly noticeable when the lens locks focus quickly, but when the camera has to hunt to achieve focus it's quite loud. This is one area where Canon excels and Nikon isn't bad. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 12:46 PM, T Rittenhouse wrote: You know, it seems to have gotten to the point where the druggies won't even steal your camera if it doesn't have the right features. But then, my mother was like that about kitchen stoves. I think that is an absolutely perfect comparison. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Steve Pearson wrote: I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that has spot metering? I think it really bites that I have to spend $800 on an MZ-S? Doesn't the Z-1p have a metal chassis and spot metering? chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Steve, Used K1000 ($120 US) Used Pentax Digital Spot Meter ($175 US) That's what I currently use for spot metering... and metal body :-) Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Pearson Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:19 PM To: Pentax Mail List Subject: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering? Hi all-Sorry for the simiar post again. I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that has spot metering? I think it really bites that I have to spend $800 on an MZ-S? Any other suggestions out there? Thanks for the help...still searching... Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Buy a spotmeter. It works better than one in a body anyway. JCO Subject: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering? Hi all-Sorry for the simiar post again. I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that has spot metering? I think it really bites that I have to spend $800 on an MZ-S? Any other suggestions out there? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Steve, Why not just buy a Pentax Spotmeter to use with your favorite bodies? Bruce Dayton Thursday, April 04, 2002, 7:19:05 PM, you wrote: SP Hi all-Sorry for the simiar post again. SP I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that SP has spot metering? I think it really bites that I SP have to spend $800 on an MZ-S? SP Any other suggestions out there? SP Thanks for the help...still searching... SP Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax SP http://taxes.yahoo.com/ SP - SP This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, SP go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to SP visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Why not just buy a Pentax Spotmeter to use with your favorite bodies? Bruce Dayton OK, OK, maybe that's an alternative. Still means extra equipment to carry around. Why didn't they ever make one? Just curious.. Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
My God man !! Could you imagine combining a Pentax Digital Spot Meter along with an MX or even LX ?? the amount of metal would be.. well... as huge as a.. 67 !!! *smirk* Cheers, Dave (P.S. no offense meant to all you wacky MF folk) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Pearson Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering? snip OK, OK, maybe that's an alternative. Still means extra equipment to carry around. Why didn't they ever make one? Just curious.. /snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 19:19:05 -0800 (PST), Steve Pearson wrote: Hi all-Sorry for the simiar post again. I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that has spot metering? I think it really bites that I have to spend $800 on an MZ-S? Well, you could spend $2000 on a 645 or 67. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
In a message dated 4/4/2002 7:22:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Doesn't the Z-1p have a metal chassis and spot metering? PZ-1 and PZ-1p both definitely have spot-metering -- I don't know for sure about the metal chassis (read someplace that it did, but since I don't recall where I read it, I sure don't know if it was a Reliable Source ... The body's heavy enough for it to quite possibly be true :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
--- David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, Used K1000 ($120 US) Used Pentax Digital Spot Meter ($175 US) That's what I currently use for spot metering... and metal body :-) Cheers, Dave Do you have a recommendation for a Pentax Digital spot meter-which model were you refering to? Thanks... Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Doesn't the Z-1p have a metal chassis and spot metering? But then the plastic top and bottom plates hardly qualify as metal body. At least the bottom plate is rather prone to crack. regards, Alan Chan _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
