RE: OT - F4 planes was RE: WAY OT - English Sport Cars

2004-02-27 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
It was interesting to hear from those who worked with the F-4s when they
began using them as drones.  Many felt bad that they were no longer in the
inventory.

When I first got here they were using F-106s as drones.  I do not recall
when the last one was used up...

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

P.S.  Worked out of Pensacola NAS over a two year period.  We were actually
docked next to the Lexington.  Long gone now...

-Original Message-
From: Daniel J. Matyola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:06 AM

Cesar:

I trained just up the coast from you at Pensacola.  Of course, that was
basic
flight school, without F-4s or any comparable aircraft.  I flew F-4s and
A-6s in
North Carolina, Puerto Rico, Arizona, Japan, Okinawa, the Philipines and
Viet
Nam.

Better use the old hulks as drones than for scrap metal, I guess.

Dan

Cesar Matamoros II wrote:

 Butch,

 Being that you worked on the F4, and I have talked to those who have
worked
 and flown them, what was your reaction finding out about them being
 converted to drones.

 I see them flying here quite often.  We also have sub-scale drones here
too.

 Forgetting that not all have access to an air base,

 Cesar
 Panama City, Florida



RE: OT - F4 planes was RE: WAY OT - English Sport Cars

2004-02-27 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
I always enjoy hearing them say that the F-4 shows that with enough thrust,
even a brick can fly :-)

An excellent workhorse nonetheless.

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

P.S.  The F-15, a flying tennis court.  I was quite surprised the first time
I was able to stand between the tails of one.  Talk about an expanse...

-Original Message-
From: Butch Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 2:48 PM

Hi Cesar

I worked on them 30+ years ago. This post is the first that I had heard
about them being used as drones. I suppose all things must come to an end.
However, given the fact that until fairly recently they were in active duty
as Wild Weasels (anti radar/ missile site planes) is a testament to a very
good design.

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)



RE: OT - F4 planes was RE: WAY OT - English Sport Cars

2004-02-26 Thread Butch Black
Hi Cesar

I worked on them 30+ years ago. This post is the first that I had heard
about them being used as drones. I suppose all things must come to an end.
However, given the fact that until fairly recently they were in active duty
as Wild Weasels (anti radar/ missile site planes) is a testament to a very
good design.

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)