RE: OT Stanstead, was: Unusual subjects to photograph.

[Malcolm Smith]

William Robb wrote:

> We have a lot of excess land here that can be used as parking 
> lots that you
> in the UK just don't have.

True.

> Not that we should be turning excess land into parking lots, mind you.

Well said.

Malcolm

RE: OT Stanstead, was: Unusual subjects to photograph.

[Amita Guha]

> The National Trust is a charitable organisation who rely on 
> property being 'given' to them, generally of outstanding 
> national historic interest, most of which come with a 
> substantial amount of land, which they can open to visitors 
> to help offset the maintenance costs. I can't think of any 
> organisation that would take it on other than as a gift, with 
> someone else paying all the re-location costs.

Ah. What a shame.
  
> > > Numbers of pubs have also reduced dramatically in London as
> > a whole,
> > > many are now fast food outlets.
> > 
> > No! Stick a knife in my heart, why don't you? :P
> 
> No, Amita, not all of them.some of them have been 
> re-developed for housing.that's not really helped, has it ? .

I guess that's not so bad. It's just that the thought of all those
charming old pubs being converted to McDonald's made me gag. ;)

Re: OT Stanstead, was: Unusual subjects to photograph.

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Malcolm Smith"
Subject: RE: OT Stanstead, was: Unusual subjects to photograph.



>
>
 I would like to see parking areas reduced, thus
> destroying less land, but for the point you make above, it's never going
to
> happen.
>

We have a lot of excess land here that can be used as parking lots that you
in the UK just don't have.
Not that we should be turning excess land into parking lots, mind you.

William Robb

RE: OT Stanstead, was: Unusual subjects to photograph.

[Malcolm Smith]

Amita Guha wrote:

> > Government won't pay. People will argue about the funding and never 
> > agree on a suitable re-location.
> 
> What about an organization like the National Trust stepping in?

The National Trust is a charitable organisation who rely on property being
'given' to them, generally of outstanding national historic interest, most
of which come with a substantial amount of land, which they can open to
visitors to help offset the maintenance costs. I can't think of any
organisation that would take it on other than as a gift, with someone else
paying all the re-location costs.
 
> > Numbers of pubs have also reduced dramatically in London as 
> a whole, 
> > many are now fast food outlets.
> 
> No! Stick a knife in my heart, why don't you? :P

No, Amita, not all of them.some of them have been re-developed for
housing.that's not really helped, has it ? .

Malcolm

RE: OT Stanstead, was: Unusual subjects to photograph.

[Malcolm Smith]

Bill Owens wrote:

> Here in the USA, airport parking lots are an airport's 
> largest source of income.

Here in the UK, particularly airports like Gatwick, Heathrow and Stanstead
have astonishingly good bus, coach and rail links (and Underground to
central London in the case of Heathrow) and unless you live a good distance,
have a disability or perhaps a big family, there is little reason to take a
car. Of course many people like to distance themselves from public transport
for a variety of reasons and take a car, which needs a parking space; if
they don't have a good reason not to use public transport they should be
stuffed on parking fees. I would like to see parking areas reduced, thus
destroying less land, but for the point you make above, it's never going to
happen.

Malcolm

Re: OT Stanstead, was: Unusual subjects to photograph.

[Bill Owens]

> Nearly all of the increase in air miles is by internal flights. Well, the
> road and rail network has gone to hell on a handcart and will cost
billions
> to sort. Airport expansion is the quick cheap fix - a *bit* of land around
> the airports and journey times are kept low. The numbers travelling means
> that even if we had a good rail network, they would struggle on price
alone
> now. Sad to note that a lot of the land for airports is still used as car
> parking, as despite direct rail links to Stanstead, everyone wants the
car.
>

Here in the USA, airport parking lots are an airport's largest source of
income.

Bill