RE: PAW: Gentle Smile with Melodica

2004-05-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ahhh, Frank ... you're finally getting there.  This is, I think, the best
of the bunch today.  Slight nit pick ... and remember, it's coming from a
guy who Photoshops specular highlights LOL  The bright spot on the
microphone should be brought down to the level of the rest of the
microphone, IOW, almost eliminated.  It's like a big pimple on the prom
queen's nose.  And what is it - a concertina, accordion - some kind of
squeeze box?  don't see any details on the keys, just a whit blob.  Is that
the scanner acting up again?

But those are just technical details.  You've caught the emotion, and that
comes thru nicely.  Like a diamond, the photo needs a little polish to
shine spectacularly.  Still, a diamond in the rough is a whole lot better
than the lumps of coal that are sometimes seen on gallery walls ;-))

Go with the Neopan ... try an EI of 1600 and meter off the skin tones, open
a stop or so depending on the lighting.  Do you have a spot meter, Frank? 
Well, regardless, go with the Neopan ...

Shel Belinkoff


 [Original Message]
 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 5/11/2004 8:30:44 PM
 Subject: PAW:  Gentle Smile with Melodica

 Another one of my friend Jennifer in concert:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2355455




Re: PAW: Gentle Smile with Melodica

2004-05-12 Thread Peter J. Alling
I really like this one.  There are a number of technical defects but the 
image itself overpowers them.

frank theriault wrote:

Another one of my friend Jennifer in concert:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2355455

Lighting was horrendous (the single spot was aimed at her body, not 
her head).  I also shot this concert with T Max 3200 (at 3200).  I 
find it very grainy, and by far prefer Neopan 1600 pushed one stop.

Comments are appreciated.

cheers,
frank
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pessimist fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer

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Re: PAW: Gentle Smile with Melodica

2004-05-12 Thread Timothy Sherburne

This is a good one, Frank. Your timing did a great job capturing her pose
and expression. Well done!

t 

On 5/11/04 20:28, frank theriault wrote:

 Another one of my friend Jennifer in concert:
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2355455
 
 Lighting was horrendous (the single spot was aimed at her body, not her
 head).  I also shot this concert with T Max 3200 (at 3200).  I find it very
 grainy, and by far prefer Neopan 1600 pushed one stop.
 
 Comments are appreciated.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
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 fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer
 
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Re: PAW: Gentle Smile with Melodica

2004-05-12 Thread Mike Nosal
Frank,
The lighting and pose remind me of photos of Edith Piaf.
I can hear La Vie en Rose just looking at it.
--Mike




Re: PAW: Gentle Smile with Melodica

2004-05-12 Thread frank theriault
Technical defects?  TECHNICAL DEFECTS???

Since when are my photos anything other than technically perfect?  (even I 
have to laugh out loud when I re-read that line LOL)

Actually, I really appreciate your comment, Peter.  I'm still working on the 
technical part of shooting concerts in low light (this one was made worse by 
the fact that the lone spot was aimed too low - her hands and arms are okay, 
but the face underexposed.  OTOH, if the face were exposed properly, the 
arms and hand would have been way blown out - I prefer it this way).

But, I'm trying to at least capture a bit of emotion.  Jennifer is a very 
emotional singer (hey, their torch songs, ya gotta emote!);  in fact, 
problem is, it's hard to catch her with her eyes open.

That you recognized and appreciated the emotion in the photo makes me feel 
I've done my job.  And, it makes up for slagging my blurry Art Shot.  
vbg

thanks,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: PAW:  Gentle Smile with Melodica
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:41:47 -0400
I really like this one.  There are a number of technical defects but the 
image itself overpowers them.

frank theriault wrote:

Another one of my friend Jennifer in concert:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2355455

Lighting was horrendous (the single spot was aimed at her body, not her 
head).  I also shot this concert with T Max 3200 (at 3200).  I find it 
very grainy, and by far prefer Neopan 1600 pushed one stop.

Comments are appreciated.

cheers,
frank
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pessimist fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer

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Re: PAW: Gentle Smile with Melodica

2004-05-12 Thread frank theriault
Mike,

You won't believe this, but that's the song she was singing when I took the 
photo!!

She sings that at least once per night, usually twice (it's become her 
encore song).  It's the only song in which she plays melodica, that's why I 
know she was singing it when I took that one.

What's amazing, is that she never sings it the same way twice.  She and her 
band are so tight, and are so good at imrovising, that they can throw all 
sorts of different little twists in there, and they always seem to resolve 
themselves in a beautiful way.

I really appreciate your comments.  And how weird is that?  The Sparrow 
Lives!!

The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Mike Nosal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: PAW:  Gentle Smile with Melodica
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 15:36:13 -0400
Frank,
The lighting and pose remind me of photos of Edith Piaf.
I can hear La Vie en Rose just looking at it.
--Mike


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Re: PAW: Gentle Smile with Melodica

2004-05-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Fix it in Photoshop! LOL

Shel Belinkoff


 [Original Message]
 From: Frantisek Vlcek [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 A lot og emotional singers have their eyes shut most of time. Difficult
for us
 photographers :) Even worse when you do an exhibition of concert
 photographs and all the shut eyes were together ;-)

 Mastering low light photography is hard, I am still nowhere near it,
 but it is very rewarding. Available night photography :)




Re: PAW: Gentle Smile with Melodica

2004-05-12 Thread Rob Studdert
On 12 May 2004 at 19:13, Andre Langevin wrote:

 I found that with contrasty high speed film, under-exposed parts of 
 the subject (here, the face, which is the most important part of the 
 photo) sometimes have low contrast so they can be lightened with 
 success using a mix of contrast and luminosity boost.  The tough part 
 is doing it without getting a clear cut effect.  I do this by 
 adding 7-8% contrast and/or brightness at the time and selecting the 
 part to work on with a slighly different border each time.
 
 But there must be other techniques to do thais without much trouble...

Using deep feathering of the mask edges can help.


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