Re: PESO -- Bar Belle...and dating pictures

2015-06-08 Thread P.J. Alling
Sleeves. as I've heard those types of tattoos called have been around 
for a long time, I became aware of them about ten maybe fifteen years 
ago, but I'm sure they existed before that.  Women didn't seem to be 
getting them until more recently.


One of the explanations was bandied about, for the rise in tattoos, in 
Western cultures, had to do with the turn of the century.  It seems that 
there have been more tattoos at the turn of the 20th century, and the 
19th, (as far as can be determined and if I remember the articles I read 
correctly).  Some theory about the century changing that made people 
want to have more control over something, and tattoos were taking 
control of your own body.  It seemed pretty silly, as a theory.


On 6/8/2015 2:30 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

John wrote:


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---
%20%20barbelle.html

Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited.

A wonderfully atmospheric picture, but I don't understand the culture
of young ladies covering themselves with body art/tattoos. I must be
getting old.

Malcolm

I'm pretty sure it's a generational thing like long hair on men when I
was a teen.

I don't find it attractive either, but it's not my place to criticize
their choices. I generally try to remember all the hassles I had at
that age over my appearance and try to keep my mouth shut.

It's also that I find it interesting dating when a picture was taken by
cultural changes. I seem to have missed when the odd tattoo on an arm became
replaced often with artwork covering the whole arm - and maybe only one arm
etc.

Smoking in public is another; I can look at pictures taken locally and
notice the changes. Up until the late 80s you often saw most people smoking
in public and that has reduced to a rare instance now - and nine out of ten
times, it will be a woman in 2015, at least around here.

Financial indicators of the times. I've used the skip observation before (or
whatever builders call the large metal container to remove waste from
projects where you are), but in 'good times', they are replaced regularly,
filled with all sorts of things that look hardly used. I can remember at one
point in 1974 it was rare to see one on the streets with money for work
tight, and those skips were almost impossible to fill, as others found use
for what was put in it, almost as soon as it went in!

Getting back to the picture, it's that curiosity of how this will be looked
at in say, 2035? Will people be able to date it roughly - 'Ah yes, that sort
of body art was popular up until the early 2020s?'.

Malcolm

  






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RE: PESO -- Bar Belle...and dating pictures

2015-06-07 Thread Malcolm Smith
John wrote:

> >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---
> >> %20%20barbelle.html
> >>
> >> Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited.
> >
> > A wonderfully atmospheric picture, but I don't understand the culture
> > of young ladies covering themselves with body art/tattoos. I must be
> > getting old.
> >
> > Malcolm
> 
> I'm pretty sure it's a generational thing like long hair on men when I
> was a teen.
> 
> I don't find it attractive either, but it's not my place to criticize
> their choices. I generally try to remember all the hassles I had at
> that age over my appearance and try to keep my mouth shut.

It's also that I find it interesting dating when a picture was taken by
cultural changes. I seem to have missed when the odd tattoo on an arm became
replaced often with artwork covering the whole arm - and maybe only one arm
etc.

Smoking in public is another; I can look at pictures taken locally and
notice the changes. Up until the late 80s you often saw most people smoking
in public and that has reduced to a rare instance now - and nine out of ten
times, it will be a woman in 2015, at least around here.

Financial indicators of the times. I've used the skip observation before (or
whatever builders call the large metal container to remove waste from
projects where you are), but in 'good times', they are replaced regularly,
filled with all sorts of things that look hardly used. I can remember at one
point in 1974 it was rare to see one on the streets with money for work
tight, and those skips were almost impossible to fill, as others found use
for what was put in it, almost as soon as it went in!

Getting back to the picture, it's that curiosity of how this will be looked
at in say, 2035? Will people be able to date it roughly - 'Ah yes, that sort
of body art was popular up until the early 2020s?'.

Malcolm

 


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