RE: PESO - Haze
Thank you Bruce. I'll check it out next time. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6. juli 2005 01:24 To: Tim Øsleby Subject: Re: PESO - Haze Hello Tim, The white balance settings in Capture One are : Color temperature - 10800 K Tint - +14 to the magenta side. HTH, Bruce Monday, July 4, 2005, 4:30:39 PM, you wrote: TØ Please do Bruce. Haze conditions are hard. TØ Tim TØ Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) TØ Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds TØ (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) TØ -Original Message- TØ From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TØ Sent: 3. juli 2005 00:17 TØ To: Joseph Tainter TØ Subject: Re: PESO - Haze TØ As I am shooting in Raw, I leave the camera setting to AWB. Capture TØ One is really not set up with setings, but with two white balance TØ scales - one in kelvin temperature and the other green/magenta. I can TØ go back and look at those settings if you want.
RE: PESO - Haze
Tried to run your file. It doesnt do anything at all. I'm running Elements, that could be the reason. What I did was first to open the picture in the editor, and then run the file. Kept a close watch on everything, the result was nothing :-( But thanks for sharing Rob. Somebody else might find it useful. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 5. juli 2005 09:49 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Haze On 5 Jul 2005 at 1:30, Tim Øsleby wrote: Please do Bruce. Haze conditions are hard. I must be missing posts again. :-( I wrote a little haze reduction action for PS CS a while back, it may be useful or it may not, it may just be good for a basis of your own action in any case feel free to test it out: http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/temp/LessHazeAction.zip Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: PESO - Haze
On 6 Jul 2005 at 14:42, Tim Øsleby wrote: Tried to run your file. It doesnt do anything at all. I'm running Elements, that could be the reason. What I did was first to open the picture in the editor, and then run the file. Kept a close watch on everything, the result was nothing :-( But thanks for sharing Rob. Somebody else might find it useful. I don't know if PS CS Actions are Elements compatible (I assume that you loaded the Action?) in any case the details of the action contents as text are: Set: Landscape Tools Action: Haze Reduction Color Range Fuzziness: 78 Minimum: Lab color Luminance: 91.84 A: -1.33 B: 18.73 Maximum: Lab color Luminance: 91.84 A: -1.33 B: 18.73 Inverse Hue/Saturation Without Colorize Adjustment: hue/saturation adjustment list hue/saturation adjustment Hue: 0 Saturation: -10 Lightness: 0 Unsharp Mask Amount: 25% Radius: 250 pixels Threshold: 0 Set Selection To: none I essence the action masks the highlights, desaturates the remainder of the image then applies a USM with a very large radius which increases contrast. PS If anyone wants to know how to grab an action as a text file simply hold down the Ctrl Alt when selecting Save Actions from the actions menu. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Elements 1 and 2 don't support actions. i assume 3 doesn't either. however, there are ways to create scripts for Elements. i don't remember if you have to buy or just download a toolkit to create them. Herb - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:42 AM Subject: RE: PESO - Haze Tried to run your file. It doesn't do anything at all. I'm running Elements, that could be the reason. What I did was first to open the picture in the editor, and then run the file. Kept a close watch on everything, the result was nothing :-(
Re: PESO - Haze
On 6 Jul 2005 at 19:10, Herb Chong wrote: Elements 1 and 2 don't support actions. i assume 3 doesn't either. however, there are ways to create scripts for Elements. i don't remember if you have to buy or just download a toolkit to create them. I must be slow but I just realized that you only need to drag an action to the PS desk-top or double click on it (Windows) to load it. I don't know if the compatibility issues are spelt out better elsewhere but here is some info: http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/pselements/qt/actions.htm Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO - Haze
Herb Chong wrote: Elements 1 and 2 don't support actions. i assume 3 doesn't either. Whadda you mean, actions? What did he do that was an action that Elements doesn't support? however, there are ways to create scripts for Elements. i don't remember if you have to buy or just download a toolkit to create them. Herb - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:42 AM Subject: RE: PESO - Haze Tried to run your file. It doesn't do anything at all. I guess if I knew what sort of file he was trying to run, it would help... I'm running Elements, that could be the reason. What I did was first to open the picture in the editor, and then run the file. Kept a close watch on everything, the result was nothing :-( keith
Re: PESO - Haze
an Action is a file with a sequence of Photoshop commands. the commands may have pauses to allow you to adjust parameter values before continuing or may instead preserve the values and not let you modify them when they are run. in that case, you can edit the parameters by editing the Action in Photoshop. Elements has something called Recipes, which basically are Actions with a prettier user interface, but i don't think anything that comes with Elements allows you to create or modify Recipes. they are the same idea as Actions but aren't compatible. you can manually do the commands that Rob posted with the same values that he used, but an Action would make that a single click. Herb - Original Message - From: keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:33 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Haze Herb Chong wrote: Elements 1 and 2 don't support actions. i assume 3 doesn't either. Whadda you mean, actions? What did he do that was an action that Elements doesn't support?
RE: PESO - Haze
On 5 Jul 2005 at 1:30, Tim Øsleby wrote: Please do Bruce. Haze conditions are hard. I must be missing posts again. :-( I wrote a little haze reduction action for PS CS a while back, it may be useful or it may not, it may just be good for a basis of your own action in any case feel free to test it out: http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/temp/LessHazeAction.zip Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO - Haze
Hello Tim, The white balance settings in Capture One are : Color temperature - 10800 K Tint - +14 to the magenta side. HTH, Bruce Monday, July 4, 2005, 4:30:39 PM, you wrote: TØ Please do Bruce. Haze conditions are hard. TØ Tim TØ Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) TØ Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds TØ (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) TØ -Original Message- TØ From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TØ Sent: 3. juli 2005 00:17 TØ To: Joseph Tainter TØ Subject: Re: PESO - Haze TØ As I am shooting in Raw, I leave the camera setting to AWB. Capture TØ One is really not set up with setings, but with two white balance TØ scales - one in kelvin temperature and the other green/magenta. I can TØ go back and look at those settings if you want.
RE: PESO - Haze
Please do Bruce. Haze conditions are hard. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3. juli 2005 00:17 To: Joseph Tainter Subject: Re: PESO - Haze As I am shooting in Raw, I leave the camera setting to AWB. Capture One is really not set up with setings, but with two white balance scales - one in kelvin temperature and the other green/magenta. I can go back and look at those settings if you want. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, July 2, 2005, 3:05:52 PM, you wrote: JT Re: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0123.htm JT Such a beautiful place, ruined by pollution. Good photo, Bruce, but JT depressing. JT Visibility in southeast Utah should be 100 miles. It used to be. JT Just curious: what white-balance setting do you use for the haze photos? JT Joe
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Brilliant, Bruce! I would consider cropping off some of the bottum part, though. Regards Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 2. juli 2005 03:40 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: PESO - Haze Since we are talking about the haze issue, I thought I would post one where I felt that the haze was a major factor in the feeling of the photo. In fact, without the haze, I probably would not have taken this shot. It was at the Island of the Sky overlook at Canyonlands near sunset time. I will be curious to see what you think. Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, tripod http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0123.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce
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Hi! Brilliant, Bruce! I would consider cropping off some of the bottum part, though. Regards Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt I'd agree with Jens. The river though is spectacular... Reminds me of mortal combat the movie... That it, when they get to that other planet, whatever is its name... Boris
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Re: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0123.htm Such a beautiful place, ruined by pollution. Good photo, Bruce, but depressing. Visibility in southeast Utah should be 100 miles. It used to be. Just curious: what white-balance setting do you use for the haze photos? Joe
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i looked up some color Ansel Adams photos of the area. his pictures had some haze. not as much as i see in Bruce's but it's there. the saturation is markedly higher in the Adam's photos, partly because of the greater visibility. these days, it seems you get those really clear shots only right after a cold front with heavy rain has come through. Herb - Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 6:05 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Haze Re: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0123.htm Such a beautiful place, ruined by pollution. Good photo, Bruce, but depressing. Visibility in southeast Utah should be 100 miles. It used to be. Just curious: what white-balance setting do you use for the haze photos?
Re: PESO - Haze
As I am shooting in Raw, I leave the camera setting to AWB. Capture One is really not set up with setings, but with two white balance scales - one in kelvin temperature and the other green/magenta. I can go back and look at those settings if you want. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, July 2, 2005, 3:05:52 PM, you wrote: JT Re: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0123.htm JT Such a beautiful place, ruined by pollution. Good photo, Bruce, but JT depressing. JT Visibility in southeast Utah should be 100 miles. It used to be. JT Just curious: what white-balance setting do you use for the haze photos? JT Joe
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Very nice. The shimmering river makes it. I'm not messin' with this one. :) Powell At 06:39 PM 01/07/2005 , you wrote: Since we are talking about the haze issue, I thought I would post one where I felt that the haze was a major factor in the feeling of the photo. In fact, without the haze, I probably would not have taken this shot. It was at the Island of the Sky overlook at Canyonlands near sunset time. I will be curious to see what you think. Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, tripod http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0123.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce
