Re: PUG themes for 2008
In a message dated 10/11/2007 1:37:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Redshirt (character), a stock "cannon fodder" character in fiction, particularly in Star Trek: The Original Series = Heh. I'd forgotten about that one. I think that makes a good theme. :-) Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Hi Scott here's the wikipedia list of "red shirts" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshirt - I assume it is the penultimate one you are referring to? Perhaps we could try fitting pictures to the other definitions as well? I kinda like the cannon fodder theme. Alastair Redshirt (college sports) Redshirt (character), a stock "cannon fodder" character in fiction, particularly in Star Trek: The Original Series Redshirts (military history), one of the followers of Giuseppe Garibaldi Redshirts (military history), Oliver Cromwell's New Model Army The Red Shirts, South African shack dwellers' movement, Abahlali baseMjondolo Red Shirts, a paramilitary organization in Mexico in the 1930's Kuilix, a Pend d'Oreilles woman whose name meant "Red Shirt" or "Red One" Delphine Red Shirt, an Oglala Lakota Sioux writer Red Shirt, South Dakota Red Shirt (Factory), a post civil war Southern organization Red Shirts (South Carolina), supporters of Wade Hampton in South Carolina for the gubernatorial election of 1876 Khudai Khidmatgar, a non-violent movement of Pashtuns against the British Empire in the North-West Frontier Province of Pakistan Red Shirt School of Photography, a growing trend in the 1950s, pioneered by National Geographic photographers, to have subjects wear overly colourful clothes Redshirt, the encryption scheme used in the Introversion Software games Darwinia and Uplink On 10/10/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rick Womer wrote: > > Scott, > > > > As you say, there is a lot of overlap; too much to be > > really stimulating, I think. Nature, Landscape, > > Macro, Synchronicity all tend in the same direction. > > Then there's "Red shirt"?!?! > > > > Rick > > Thanks, Rick. I think a little overlap isn't necessarily bad. Unless > one had a model train set with real plants, it would awfully hard to > satisfy nature, landscape and macro with one photograph. But perhaps we > could turn them into two themes instead of three. Nature/landscapes and > macro/close up. These allow quite a lot of interpretation within the > same theme while not limiting participation due to a lack of specialty > lenses. > > Same for fashion/glamour and portraits. I have a feeling, though, that > combining them into simply a portrait theme would probably leave us > without too much fashion and glamour. I like fashion and glamour. > Especially with long legs. > > As for "Red shirt", I thought you would know about that one. Look it > up. > > I guess we need a couple more themes. I'll dig some more. How does > aerial photography sound to everyone? > > Seriously, Bill laid it out rather plainly during a previous discussion > of PUG themes, and I'm trying to abide: > > William Robb wrote: > > The PUG is supposed to be as inclusive a gallery as possible. This > means > > that themes should be doable with fairly basic equipment, and that the > > subject shouldn't be exclusive to certain parts of the world. > > > > William Robb > > I think the themes thus far adhere to that philosophy rather well, > allowing much more liberal interpretation than "flower" or "Halloween". > > > > > --- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I've put together a list of 12 themes for 2008. > >> I've tried to stay away > >> from the more abstract themes and focus more on > >> photographic genres, in > >> hopes that some of us will actually go try something > >> new. The list with > >> notes (not in order, necessarily): > >> > >> Documentary/photojournalism > >> > >> 'Tis the season - I thought February would be a good > >> month, allowing > >> plenty of time to go through your > >> Christmas/Festivus/New Year/whatever > >> photos. > >> > >> Fashion/glamour > >> > >> Portrait > >> > >> Photowalking - you guys are good at this, so it's > >> pretty much a done > >> deal. :-P > >> > >> Macro/close-up > >> > >> Red shirt > >> > >> Landscape > >> > >> Nature > >> > >> Equinox/synchronicity (x2) - I thought it would be > >> nice to do this > >> twice, but I'm open to other suggestions. The > >> equinox is near the end > >> of March and September, putting some serious time > >> constraints on those > >> of us with other things to do. Having the relevant > >> PUGs in May and > >> November would give everyone ample time to edit. > >> > >> Etc - Yes, this is a theme. Walt Hamler > >> proposed it and several > >> people said something like "Cool!" Basically, one > >> month devoted to > >> whatever the hell you feel like shooting. A > >> Super-PESO, if you will. > >> > >> As you can see, there is quite some overlap of > >> themes, such as nature, > >> macro and landscape, for example. I would expect > >> nothing less than a > >> very liberal interpretation from this group. > >> > >> This list is not concrete, obviously, so I'd > >> appreciate your thoughts. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Scott Loveless > >> http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.n
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Rick Womer wrote: > Scott, > > As you say, there is a lot of overlap; too much to be > really stimulating, I think. Nature, Landscape, > Macro, Synchronicity all tend in the same direction. > Then there's "Red shirt"?!?! > > Rick Thanks, Rick. I think a little overlap isn't necessarily bad. Unless one had a model train set with real plants, it would awfully hard to satisfy nature, landscape and macro with one photograph. But perhaps we could turn them into two themes instead of three. Nature/landscapes and macro/close up. These allow quite a lot of interpretation within the same theme while not limiting participation due to a lack of specialty lenses. Same for fashion/glamour and portraits. I have a feeling, though, that combining them into simply a portrait theme would probably leave us without too much fashion and glamour. I like fashion and glamour. Especially with long legs. As for "Red shirt", I thought you would know about that one. Look it up. I guess we need a couple more themes. I'll dig some more. How does aerial photography sound to everyone? Seriously, Bill laid it out rather plainly during a previous discussion of PUG themes, and I'm trying to abide: William Robb wrote: > The PUG is supposed to be as inclusive a gallery as possible. This means > that themes should be doable with fairly basic equipment, and that the > subject shouldn't be exclusive to certain parts of the world. > > William Robb I think the themes thus far adhere to that philosophy rather well, allowing much more liberal interpretation than "flower" or "Halloween". > > --- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I've put together a list of 12 themes for 2008. >> I've tried to stay away >> from the more abstract themes and focus more on >> photographic genres, in >> hopes that some of us will actually go try something >> new. The list with >> notes (not in order, necessarily): >> >> Documentary/photojournalism >> >> 'Tis the season - I thought February would be a good >> month, allowing >> plenty of time to go through your >> Christmas/Festivus/New Year/whatever >> photos. >> >> Fashion/glamour >> >> Portrait >> >> Photowalking - you guys are good at this, so it's >> pretty much a done >> deal. :-P >> >> Macro/close-up >> >> Red shirt >> >> Landscape >> >> Nature >> >> Equinox/synchronicity (x2) - I thought it would be >> nice to do this >> twice, but I'm open to other suggestions. The >> equinox is near the end >> of March and September, putting some serious time >> constraints on those >> of us with other things to do. Having the relevant >> PUGs in May and >> November would give everyone ample time to edit. >> >> Etc - Yes, this is a theme. Walt Hamler >> proposed it and several >> people said something like "Cool!" Basically, one >> month devoted to >> whatever the hell you feel like shooting. A >> Super-PESO, if you will. >> >> As you can see, there is quite some overlap of >> themes, such as nature, >> macro and landscape, for example. I would expect >> nothing less than a >> very liberal interpretation from this group. >> >> This list is not concrete, obviously, so I'd >> appreciate your thoughts. >> >> >> -- >> Scott Loveless >> http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. >> > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 > -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PUG themes for 2008
> > Flowers > > Kittens > > Dirty Socks > > Strange Phenomena/UFOs > > Baby Pigeons > > Gumbo > > Hangovers > > Root Beer > > Jimi Hendrix > > HDTV > > Mothers-in-Law > > Global Warming > > Gravel > > WTF? > > WMDs > > Beer > > > > Norm That glue he uses to make cell phone cases is stronger than he thinks. Or maybe not. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Norm Baugher wrote: > Fine, whatever. Nobody ever takes my theme suggestions... > Norm Allow me to quote Mr. Norm "Can't remember what I had for breakfast" Baugher. Norm Baugher wrote: > OK, I'll give it a try... > > Black & White > Synchronicity Ahem. > Flowers > Kittens > Dirty Socks > Strange Phenomena/UFOs > Baby Pigeons > Gumbo > Hangovers > Root Beer > Jimi Hendrix > HDTV > Mothers-in-Law > Global Warming > Gravel > WTF? > WMDs > Beer > > Norm > > Scott Loveless wrote: >> Equinox/synchronicity (x2) - I thought it would be nice to do this >> twice, but I'm open to other suggestions. The equinox is near the end >> of March and September, putting some serious time constraints on those >> of us with other things to do. Having the relevant PUGs in May and >> November would give everyone ample time to edit. >> Ahem. Basically, Norman, I see the PUG as something that's probably rated PG-13 and you'll have to get your baby pigeon gumbo fix on Flickr. Thank you. Have a nice day. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Kenneth Waller wrote: >Norm Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Fine, whatever. Nobody ever takes my theme suggestions... >> Norm > >Fine. Then may I suggest NORM . How about "above the Norm"? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PUG themes for 2008
> Fine, whatever. Nobody ever takes my theme suggestions... > Norm Fine. Then may I suggest NORM . Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Norm Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PUG themes for 2008 > Fine, whatever. Nobody ever takes my theme suggestions... > Norm > > Scott Loveless wrote: >> I've put together a list of 12 themes for 2008. I've tried to stay away >> from the more abstract themes and focus more on photographic genres, in >> hopes that some of us will actually go try something new. The list with >> notes (not in order, necessarily): >> >> Documentary/photojournalism >> >> 'Tis the season - I thought February would be a good month, allowing >> plenty of time to go through your Christmas/Festivus/New Year/whatever >> photos. >> >> Fashion/glamour >> >> Portrait >> >> Photowalking - you guys are good at this, so it's pretty much a done >> deal. :-P >> >> Macro/close-up >> >> Red shirt >> >> Landscape >> >> Nature >> >> Equinox/synchronicity (x2) - I thought it would be nice to do this >> twice, but I'm open to other suggestions. The equinox is near the end >> of March and September, putting some serious time constraints on those >> of us with other things to do. Having the relevant PUGs in May and >> November would give everyone ample time to edit. >> >> Etc - Yes, this is a theme. Walt Hamler proposed it and several >> people said something like "Cool!" Basically, one month devoted to >> whatever the hell you feel like shooting. A Super-PESO, if you will. >> >> As you can see, there is quite some overlap of themes, such as nature, >> macro and landscape, for example. I would expect nothing less than a >> very liberal interpretation from this group. >> >> This list is not concrete, obviously, so I'd appreciate your thoughts. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Fine, whatever. Nobody ever takes my theme suggestions... Norm Scott Loveless wrote: > I've put together a list of 12 themes for 2008. I've tried to stay away > from the more abstract themes and focus more on photographic genres, in > hopes that some of us will actually go try something new. The list with > notes (not in order, necessarily): > > Documentary/photojournalism > > 'Tis the season - I thought February would be a good month, allowing > plenty of time to go through your Christmas/Festivus/New Year/whatever > photos. > > Fashion/glamour > > Portrait > > Photowalking - you guys are good at this, so it's pretty much a done > deal. :-P > > Macro/close-up > > Red shirt > > Landscape > > Nature > > Equinox/synchronicity (x2) - I thought it would be nice to do this > twice, but I'm open to other suggestions. The equinox is near the end > of March and September, putting some serious time constraints on those > of us with other things to do. Having the relevant PUGs in May and > November would give everyone ample time to edit. > > Etc - Yes, this is a theme. Walt Hamler proposed it and several > people said something like "Cool!" Basically, one month devoted to > whatever the hell you feel like shooting. A Super-PESO, if you will. > > As you can see, there is quite some overlap of themes, such as nature, > macro and landscape, for example. I would expect nothing less than a > very liberal interpretation from this group. > > This list is not concrete, obviously, so I'd appreciate your thoughts. > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Scott, As you say, there is a lot of overlap; too much to be really stimulating, I think. Nature, Landscape, Macro, Synchronicity all tend in the same direction. Then there's "Red shirt"?!?! Rick --- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've put together a list of 12 themes for 2008. > I've tried to stay away > from the more abstract themes and focus more on > photographic genres, in > hopes that some of us will actually go try something > new. The list with > notes (not in order, necessarily): > > Documentary/photojournalism > > 'Tis the season - I thought February would be a good > month, allowing > plenty of time to go through your > Christmas/Festivus/New Year/whatever > photos. > > Fashion/glamour > > Portrait > > Photowalking - you guys are good at this, so it's > pretty much a done > deal. :-P > > Macro/close-up > > Red shirt > > Landscape > > Nature > > Equinox/synchronicity (x2) - I thought it would be > nice to do this > twice, but I'm open to other suggestions. The > equinox is near the end > of March and September, putting some serious time > constraints on those > of us with other things to do. Having the relevant > PUGs in May and > November would give everyone ample time to edit. > > Etc - Yes, this is a theme. Walt Hamler > proposed it and several > people said something like "Cool!" Basically, one > month devoted to > whatever the hell you feel like shooting. A > Super-PESO, if you will. > > As you can see, there is quite some overlap of > themes, such as nature, > macro and landscape, for example. I would expect > nothing less than a > very liberal interpretation from this group. > > This list is not concrete, obviously, so I'd > appreciate your thoughts. > > > -- > Scott Loveless > http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Sounds like a hoot to me! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Time to revive Synchronicity? (spring or fall equinox simultaneous photos) Regards, Bob S. On 9/19/07, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Travel > Food > Shoes > Patterns > Love > Macro > Circles > etc > > Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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> > From: "Walter Hamler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/09/19 Wed PM 06:29:43 GMT > To: > Subject: PUG themes for 2008 > > Travel > Food > Shoes > Patterns > Love > Macro > Circles > etc Do you literally mean "etc" as a theme? That's a good one. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RE: PUG themes for 2008
David Savage wrote: >At 05:08 AM 20/09/2007, Bob W wrote: >>Why not combine 12 and 8, then we could have Kenny Slap. > >Or Mirror Boy? > >Seems appropriate given how much light his teeth reflect. ...and who his biggest fan is. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PUG themes for 2008
At 05:08 AM 20/09/2007, Bob W wrote: >Why not combine 12 and 8, then we could have Kenny Slap. > Or Mirror Boy? Seems appropriate given how much light his teeth reflect. Cheers, Dave > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Mark Roberts > > Sent: 19 September 2007 14:44 > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > Subject: Re: PUG themes for 2008 > > > > > > 1 - Wide Aperture > > 2 - Pixel Peeping > > 3 - Purple Fringe > > 4 - What the "F" in "f-stop" Really Stands For > > 5 - In Decent Exposure > > 6 - Auntie Alias > > 7 - Macro Panoramas > > 8 - Mirror Slap > > 9 - My Favorite Histogram > > 10 - In the RAW > > 11 - The Relationship Between Sagital and Tangental Graphs of >Modular > > Transfer Function as Pertaining to the Rendering of Out-of-Focus >Areas > > 12 - Kenny Boy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
> is "etc" a theme? No but Walt is. ;-} Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Rebekah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PUG themes for 2008 > is "etc" a theme? > > rg2 > > On 9/19/07, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Travel >> Food >> Shoes >> Patterns >> Love >> Macro >> Circles >> etc >> >> Walt >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > -- > "the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition" > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RE: PUG themes for 2008
Bob W wrote: >Why not combine 12 and 8, then we could have Kenny Slap. He'd probably *enjoy* it. >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Mark Roberts >> Sent: 19 September 2007 14:44 >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: PUG themes for 2008 >> >> >> 1 - Wide Aperture >> 2 - Pixel Peeping >> 3 - Purple Fringe >> 4 - What the "F" in "f-stop" Really Stands For >> 5 - In Decent Exposure >> 6 - Auntie Alias >> 7 - Macro Panoramas >> 8 - Mirror Slap >> 9 - My Favorite Histogram >> 10 - In the RAW >> 11 - The Relationship Between Sagital and Tangental Graphs of >Modular >> Transfer Function as Pertaining to the Rendering of Out-of-Focus >Areas >> 12 - Kenny Boy >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Then for number 12, we could have "aperture simulator" Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 5:08 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: spam: RE: PUG themes for 2008 Why not combine 12 and 8, then we could have Kenny Slap. -- Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mark Roberts > Sent: 19 September 2007 14:44 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PUG themes for 2008 > > > 1 - Wide Aperture > 2 - Pixel Peeping > 3 - Purple Fringe > 4 - What the "F" in "f-stop" Really Stands For > 5 - In Decent Exposure > 6 - Auntie Alias > 7 - Macro Panoramas > 8 - Mirror Slap > 9 - My Favorite Histogram > 10 - In the RAW > 11 - The Relationship Between Sagital and Tangental Graphs of Modular > Transfer Function as Pertaining to the Rendering of Out-of-Focus Areas > 12 - Kenny Boy > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PUG themes for 2008
Why not combine 12 and 8, then we could have Kenny Slap. -- Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mark Roberts > Sent: 19 September 2007 14:44 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PUG themes for 2008 > > > 1 - Wide Aperture > 2 - Pixel Peeping > 3 - Purple Fringe > 4 - What the "F" in "f-stop" Really Stands For > 5 - In Decent Exposure > 6 - Auntie Alias > 7 - Macro Panoramas > 8 - Mirror Slap > 9 - My Favorite Histogram > 10 - In the RAW > 11 - The Relationship Between Sagital and Tangental Graphs of Modular > Transfer Function as Pertaining to the Rendering of Out-of-Focus Areas > 12 - Kenny Boy > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
is "etc" a theme? rg2 On 9/19/07, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Travel > Food > Shoes > Patterns > Love > Macro > Circles > etc > > Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- "the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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i think it would be an interesting theme rg2 On 9/19/07, Igor Roshchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess it stands for 7 themes: > e, t, c, ., ., ., .. > :-) > > Igor > > Wed Sep 19 16:23:01 EDT 2007 > Rebekah wrote: > > > is "etc" a theme? > > rg2 > > On 9/19/07, Walter Hamler wrote: > > Travel > > Food > > Shoes > > Patterns > > Love > > Macro > > Circles > > etc > > > > Walt > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- "the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
I guess it stands for 7 themes: e, t, c, ., ., ., .. :-) Igor Wed Sep 19 16:23:01 EDT 2007 Rebekah wrote: is "etc" a theme? rg2 On 9/19/07, Walter Hamler wrote: > Travel > Food > Shoes > Patterns > Love > Macro > Circles > etc > > Walt > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
1 - Wide Aperture 2 - Pixel Peeping 3 - Purple Fringe 4 - What the "F" in "f-stop" Really Stands For 5 - In Decent Exposure 6 - Auntie Alias 7 - Macro Panoramas 8 - Mirror Slap 9 - My Favorite Histogram 10 - In the RAW 11 - The Relationship Between Sagital and Tangental Graphs of Modular Transfer Function as Pertaining to the Rendering of Out-of-Focus Areas 12 - Kenny Boy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
At 04:05 PM 19/09/2007, Cotty wrote: >On 18/09/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Some might not be so bad, but OMG,. no Cotty! > >OI - Mr fekking universe to you pal. Which parallel universe did you just stumble out of? :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 18/09/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: >Pictures taken with an A85 mounted on a Canon LOL -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
On 18/09/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: >Some might not be so bad, but OMG,. no Cotty! OI - Mr fekking universe to you pal. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Rebekah wrote: >has there been one done for "smooth"? > >rg2 > Scott doesn't know that word ;) (ann ducks) > >On 9/18/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Here are the PUG themes for 2008. >> >>Plus-x >>Reala >>D-76 >>HP5+ >>Cross Processed Astia >>Collodion >>8x10 negatives >>Polaroid >>Pictures taken with a Spotmatic >>Pictures taken with a 67 >>Pictures taken with an A85 mounted on a Canon >>Nude >> >>Well, maybe not that last one. It could cause some problems for some folks. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Any suggestions for real themes? I'm keeping track of them and I have a >>small list of ideas. Figured it wouldn't hurt to hash this out a few >>times between now and the end of the year. >> >>Thanks! >> >>-- >>Scott Loveless >>http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> > > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
You forgot - + Over exposed + Under exposed + Blurry + Not focused + Camera's fault + Not the right Lens Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: PUG themes for 2008 > Well, I think I'll interrupt the nonsense with a few > actual ideas. > > Photo-based themes: > > shutter > advance > exposure > stop > fogged > sharp > grain > > Miscellaneous ideas: > > flower > wood > metal > step > books > play > music > game > ride > > Cheers, > > Rick > > --- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Here are the PUG themes for 2008. >> >> Plus-x >> Reala >> D-76 >> HP5+ >> Cross Processed Astia >> Collodion >> 8x10 negatives >> Polaroid >> Pictures taken with a Spotmatic >> Pictures taken with a 67 >> Pictures taken with an A85 mounted on a Canon >> Nude >> >> Well, maybe not that last one. It could cause some >> problems for some folks. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Any suggestions for real themes? I'm keeping track >> of them and I have a >> small list of ideas. Figured it wouldn't hurt to >> hash this out a few >> times between now and the end of the year. >> >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> Scott Loveless -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Well, I think I'll interrupt the nonsense with a few actual ideas. Photo-based themes: shutter advance exposure stop fogged sharp grain Miscellaneous ideas: flower wood metal step books play music game ride Cheers, Rick --- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here are the PUG themes for 2008. > > Plus-x > Reala > D-76 > HP5+ > Cross Processed Astia > Collodion > 8x10 negatives > Polaroid > Pictures taken with a Spotmatic > Pictures taken with a 67 > Pictures taken with an A85 mounted on a Canon > Nude > > Well, maybe not that last one. It could cause some > problems for some folks. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions for real themes? I'm keeping track > of them and I have a > small list of ideas. Figured it wouldn't hurt to > hash this out a few > times between now and the end of the year. > > Thanks! > > -- > Scott Loveless > http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
I used to shoot GAF 500 a lot, it wasn't that good when it was fresh... Steve Sharpe wrote: >> >> >> >>> I do like the Plus-X. >>> >>> How about GAF 64? >>> >>> >>> >> Might as well add GAF 500 as well... >> > > Great idea! When I was packing to move last spring I discovered a 20 > exposure roll of GAF 500 that I must have bought in the late '70s or > thereabouts. If I recall, it had a 1980 expiration date. Maybe it's > time to use it... :^) > > -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
> >> >> >> I do like the Plus-X. >> >> How about GAF 64? >> >> >Might as well add GAF 500 as well... Great idea! When I was packing to move last spring I discovered a 20 exposure roll of GAF 500 that I must have bought in the late '70s or thereabouts. If I recall, it had a 1980 expiration date. Maybe it's time to use it... :^) -- Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
>> Collodion >> > > Here, let me sniff some mercury fumes... No, no. That's Daguerreotype. Collodion is bromine and silver nitrate. >> Nude >> > > Do you REALLY want to see listmembers naked? *SHUDDER* > Some might not be so bad, but OMG,. no Cotty! Mat Maessen wrote: > On 9/18/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Plus-x >> > > Done it. > > >> Reala >> > > Done it. > > >> D-76 >> > > Done it. > > >> HP5+ >> > > Done it. 4x5, even. > > >> Cross Processed Astia >> > > I can do that... > > >> Collodion >> > > Here, let me sniff some mercury fumes... > No, no. That's Daguerreotype. Collodion is bromine and silver nitrate. > >> 8x10 negatives >> > > I WANT to do that. > > >> Polaroid >> > > Done it. I've got a couple to lend, even. > > >> Pictures taken with a Spotmatic >> > > Done it. > > >> Pictures taken with a 67 >> > > Done it. I need to work on my arm strength. > > >> Pictures taken with an A85 mounted on a Canon >> > > Seen it. > > >> Nude >> > > Do you REALLY want to see listmembers naked? *SHUDDER* > > -Mat > > -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
At 09:44 AM 19/09/2007, Mat Maessen wrote: >On 9/18/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nude > >Do you REALLY want to see listmembers naked? *SHUDDER* NO! It's bad enough having to see 1 nekkid. :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
On 9/18/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Plus-x Done it. > Reala Done it. > D-76 Done it. > HP5+ Done it. 4x5, even. > Cross Processed Astia I can do that... > Collodion Here, let me sniff some mercury fumes... > 8x10 negatives I WANT to do that. > Polaroid Done it. I've got a couple to lend, even. > Pictures taken with a Spotmatic Done it. > Pictures taken with a 67 Done it. I need to work on my arm strength. > Pictures taken with an A85 mounted on a Canon Seen it. > Nude Do you REALLY want to see listmembers naked? *SHUDDER* -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Steve Sharpe wrote: > At 7:52 PM -0400 9/18/07, Scott Loveless wrote: > >> Here are the PUG themes for 2008. >> >> Plus-x >> Reala >> D-76 >> HP5+ >> Cross Processed Astia >> Collodion >> 8x10 negatives >> Polaroid >> Pictures taken with a Spotmatic >> Pictures taken with a 67 >> Pictures taken with an A85 mounted on a Canon >> Nude >> >> Well, maybe not that last one. It could cause some problems for some folks. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Any suggestions for real themes? I'm keeping track of them and I have a >> small list of ideas. Figured it wouldn't hurt to hash this out a few >> times between now and the end of the year. >> > > I do like the Plus-X. > > How about GAF 64? > > Might as well add GAF 500 as well... -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
At 7:52 PM -0400 9/18/07, Scott Loveless wrote: >Here are the PUG themes for 2008. > >Plus-x >Reala >D-76 >HP5+ >Cross Processed Astia >Collodion >8x10 negatives >Polaroid >Pictures taken with a Spotmatic >Pictures taken with a 67 >Pictures taken with an A85 mounted on a Canon >Nude > >Well, maybe not that last one. It could cause some problems for some folks. > > > > > > > >Any suggestions for real themes? I'm keeping track of them and I have a >small list of ideas. Figured it wouldn't hurt to hash this out a few >times between now and the end of the year. I do like the Plus-X. How about GAF 64? -- Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
has there been one done for "smooth"? rg2 On 9/18/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here are the PUG themes for 2008. > > Plus-x > Reala > D-76 > HP5+ > Cross Processed Astia > Collodion > 8x10 negatives > Polaroid > Pictures taken with a Spotmatic > Pictures taken with a 67 > Pictures taken with an A85 mounted on a Canon > Nude > > Well, maybe not that last one. It could cause some problems for some folks. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions for real themes? I'm keeping track of them and I have a > small list of ideas. Figured it wouldn't hurt to hash this out a few > times between now and the end of the year. > > Thanks! > > -- > Scott Loveless > http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- "the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
> > From: > Cotty > On 21/6/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: >> What does it mean in the USA? >> > Actually I couldn't remember - I thought filching was the naughty one... Filching with an "I" means stealing, or at least it did when I was growing up. Actually, it meant a really, Really, petty theft, e.g. "filching apples from ol' man so-and-so's orchard" ... kid's stuff. Sort of in the same league with tipping over out-houses and puttin' cherry-bombs in mailboxes. Felching with an "E" has another meaning entirely. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
On 22/6/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >Filching is not a particularly bad thing, Cotty. You're probably >thinking of felching, which sounds utterly revolting. As opposed to fulching which I do all the time. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008
On 21/6/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: >The cormorants on my lake don't seem too. We have around 8 that live >year round. That's because you've nailed them to the branches. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PUG themes for 2008
Filching is not a particularly bad thing, Cotty. You're probably thinking of felching, which sounds utterly revolting. -- Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Cotty > Sent: 22 June 2007 09:13 > To: pentax list > Subject: Re: PUG themes for 2008 > > On 21/6/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >What does it mean in the USA? > > Actually I couldn't remember - I thought filching was the > naughty one... > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
On 21/6/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: >I wonder if this means something different in England than in the US > Otherwise, Cotty, you are one SICK bastard. :-) Coming from you that's a compliment ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
On 21/6/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: >What does it mean in the USA? Actually I couldn't remember - I thought filching was the naughty one... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
- Original Message - From: "Steve Desjardins" Subject: Re: PUG themes for 2008 > Oh My. That was an image I did not need in my head. If I quickly drink > enough alcohol, will it destroy recent memories? Depends on what you are drinking from. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Oh My. That was an image I did not need in my head. If I quickly drink enough alcohol, will it destroy recent memories? >>> John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/21/07 1:02 PM >>> > > From: > mike wilson > From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2007/06/21 Thu PM 01:56:34 GMT > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > Subject: Re: PUG themes for 2008 > > > > Cotty wrote: > > > >> > > Felch >> > > > > I wonder if this means something different in England than in the US > > > What does it mean in the USA? > WARNING: XXX - Rated. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=felching -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net !SIG:467aaf5a37171151415716! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
> > From: > mike wilson > From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2007/06/21 Thu PM 01:56:34 GMT > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > Subject: Re: PUG themes for 2008 > > > > Cotty wrote: > > > >> > > Felch >> > > > > I wonder if this means something different in England than in the US > > > What does it mean in the USA? > WARNING: XXX - Rated. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=felching -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Thanks Cotty. Cotty wrote: > On 20/6/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >> Well I've got a few ideas for Spank, Slap, Grasp - and perhaps even >> Nockas. But I'm not sure I want to think about the others >> > > See Norm for Felching. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Christian wrote: > Cotty wrote: > > >> Felch >> > > I wonder if this means something different in England than in the US > Otherwise, Cotty, you are one SICK bastard. :-) > > > Oh, dear. I didn't even notice that one on Cotty's list. Nockas and thize did it for me. Maybe we should reconsider. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008
Kenneth Waller wrote: > They migrate don't they ? The cormorants on my lake don't seem too. We have around 8 that live year round. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Cotty wrote: > On 20/6/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> Well I've got a few ideas for Spank, Slap, Grasp - and perhaps even >> Nockas. But I'm not sure I want to think about the others > > See Norm for Felching. > Just plain EWWW -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
> > From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/06/21 Thu PM 01:56:34 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PUG themes for 2008 > > Cotty wrote: > > > Felch > > I wonder if this means something different in England than in the US What does it mean in the USA? > Otherwise, Cotty, you are one SICK bastard. :-) Stop encouraging him. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Cotty wrote: > Felch I wonder if this means something different in England than in the US Otherwise, Cotty, you are one SICK bastard. :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Well, I am not going to be too creative, but I like crowded PUGs and one of the most crowded in the last years has been the Architecture themed one. Also I liked the Synchronicity idea. - Mensaje original De: Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Enviado: martes, 19 de junio, 2007 22:22:10 Asunto: PUG themes for 2008 Hey, gang. I think it's time to start discussing next year's PUG themes. So toss 'em out. Be creative. Philosophize. Flame each other's stupid ideas. Whatever. I'll take a look at the thread in a few days and we'll narrow it down a bit. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net ¡Descubre una nueva forma de obtener respuestas a tus preguntas! Entra en Yahoo! Respuestas. http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
wot no frot? > > From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/06/20 Wed PM 11:08:13 GMT > To: "pentax list" > Subject: Re: PUG themes for 2008 > > Spank > Slap > Grasp > Frondle > Felch > Flark > Freep > Grulp > Smarf > Liptch > Thize > Nockas > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
On 20/6/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: >Well I've got a few ideas for Spank, Slap, Grasp - and perhaps even >Nockas. But I'm not sure I want to think about the others See Norm for Felching. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008
They migrate don't they ? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008 > > >> From: >> "William Robb" >> >> - Original Message ----- From: "Mark Roberts" >> Subject: Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008 >>> Christian wrote: >>>> you forgot: >>>> Birds >>>> Birds again >>>> More birds >>> Why not just "Cormorants"? >> >> The PUG is supposed to be as inclusive a gallery as possible. This >> means that themes should be doable with fairly basic equipment, and >> that the subject shouldn't be exclusive to certain parts of the world. >> My understanding is that cormorants are a seaside dwelling creature, >> therefore out of reach of people who don't live near large bodies of >> water... > I've seen 'em around Shelley Lake in Raleigh, NC. > > We're about 120 miles inland - figuring from the closest beach. I don't > know how big Shelley Lake is in square footage or whatever, but the > green-way path that runs around the lake is exactly 2 miles long. > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/yuv9le > > In addition to the occasional cormorant, I've seen lots of Canadian > geese, various kinds of wild ducks, great egrets, great blue herons and > even a swan there. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Well I've got a few ideas for Spank, Slap, Grasp - and perhaps even Nockas. But I'm not sure I want to think about the others Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/brianwalters Quoting Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hey, folks! Here's our list for 2008: > > Cotty wrote: > > Spank > > Slap > > Grasp > > Frondle > > Felch > > Flark > > Freep > > Grulp > > Smarf > > Liptch > > Thize > > Nockas > > > > > > > -- > Scott Loveless > http://www.twosixteen.com/ > > -- Finally - A spam blocker that actually works. http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Only problem is now I'll need a Cotty to English dictionary, sorry two problems, this is a family list, wait there's three problems... Scott Loveless wrote: > Hey, folks! Here's our list for 2008: > > Cotty wrote: > >> Spank >> Slap >> Grasp >> Frondle >> Felch >> Flark >> Freep >> Grulp >> Smarf >> Liptch >> Thize >> Nockas >> >> >> > > > -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Hey, folks! Here's our list for 2008: Cotty wrote: > Spank > Slap > Grasp > Frondle > Felch > Flark > Freep > Grulp > Smarf > Liptch > Thize > Nockas > > -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Spank Slap Grasp Frondle Felch Flark Freep Grulp Smarf Liptch Thize Nockas -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008
> > From: > Mark Roberts > Christian wrote: >> >you forgot: >> >Birds >> >Birds again >> >More birds >> >... >> > How about an entire Alfred Hitchcock theme year? > > Birds > Vertigo > Psycho > Lifeboat > Frenzy > Rope > Blackmail > Saboteur > Notorious > Spellbound > Topaz > Marnie (not AKA Doe, but still...) Rear Window http://www.encore.at/cavell/rear%20window/rw.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008
> > From: > "William Robb" > > - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" > Subject: Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008 >> Christian wrote: >>> you forgot: >>> Birds >>> Birds again >>> More birds >> Why not just "Cormorants"? > > The PUG is supposed to be as inclusive a gallery as possible. This > means that themes should be doable with fairly basic equipment, and > that the subject shouldn't be exclusive to certain parts of the world. > My understanding is that cormorants are a seaside dwelling creature, > therefore out of reach of people who don't live near large bodies of > water... I've seen 'em around Shelley Lake in Raleigh, NC. We're about 120 miles inland - figuring from the closest beach. I don't know how big Shelley Lake is in square footage or whatever, but the green-way path that runs around the lake is exactly 2 miles long. http://preview.tinyurl.com/yuv9le In addition to the occasional cormorant, I've seen lots of Canadian geese, various kinds of wild ducks, great egrets, great blue herons and even a swan there. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
a color: purple an era: sixties a feeling: angry a shape: pentagonal a movement: rolling a position: upside down a gesture: shaking hands language: words and letters culture: ritual an age: old age music: playing an instrument a concept: change OK, that's 12. Now honest, for myself I only see a couple of those as feasible subjects... but then let's call it challenge. And most of them can make a nice gallery. Groeten, Vic Scott Loveless schreef: > Hey, gang. I think it's time to start discussing next year's PUG > themes. So toss 'em out. Be creative. Philosophize. Flame each > other's stupid ideas. Whatever. I'll take a look at the thread in a > few days and we'll narrow it down a bit. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
> > From: > Christian > > you forgot: > Birds > Birds again > More birds > ... What about birds? Gotta' have something about birds! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Sure, but where's the fun in that? (besides, we just use the one at VA Tech.) >>> Igor Roshchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/20/2007 11:58 AM >>> Come'on, Steve! Being a chemist you should know that you can get X-ray images (well, at least plots) without breaking anything.. Igor, waiting for completion of the acceptance tests for the brand-new X-ray Diffractometer. Wed Jun 20 08:20:57 EDT 2007 Steve Desjardins wrote: <..> X-Rays (But you have to break something) <..> Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 desjardins at wlu.edu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net !SIG:4679504326586536137983! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Come'on, Steve! Being a chemist you should know that you can get X-ray images (well, at least plots) without breaking anything.. Igor, waiting for completion of the acceptance tests for the brand-new X-ray Diffractometer. Wed Jun 20 08:20:57 EDT 2007 Steve Desjardins wrote: <..> X-Rays (But you have to break something) <..> Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 desjardins at wlu.edu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Christian wrote: >Mark Roberts wrote: >> Christian wrote: >> >>> you forgot: >>> Birds >>> Birds again >>> More birds >>> ... >> >> How about an entire Alfred Hitchcock theme year? >> >> Birds >> Vertigo >> Psycho >> Lifeboat >> Frenzy >> Rope >> Blackmail >> Saboteur >> Notorious >> Spellbound >> Topaz >> Marnie (not AKA Doe, but still...) > >you forgot a photography-themed Hitchcock: "Rear Window" > >(how could you forget that?!!) I was going for the one-word titles. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hey, just work through the spectrum: IR Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Indigo Violet UV (Beach Pictures) X-Rays (But you have to break something) We could even have some Microwave pictures up front. The remaining month could be something random Macro topic like "Unusual Stuff in my Fridge". Just getting this stuff out of my system before the summer students arrive . . . Steve Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Mark Roberts wrote: > Christian wrote: > >> you forgot: >> Birds >> Birds again >> More birds >> ... > > How about an entire Alfred Hitchcock theme year? > > Birds > Vertigo > Psycho > Lifeboat > Frenzy > Rope > Blackmail > Saboteur > Notorious > Spellbound > Topaz > Marnie (not AKA Doe, but still...) you forgot a photography-themed Hitchcock: "Rear Window" (how could you forget that?!!) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Also forgot Ir More IR EVEN MORE IR Dave On 6/19/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you forgot: > Birds > Birds again > More birds > ... > > -- > > Christian > http://photography.skofteland.net > > > Norm Baugher wrote: > > OK, I'll give it a try... > > > > Black & White > > Synchronicity > > Flowers > > Kittens > > Dirty Socks > > Strange Phenomena/UFOs > > Baby Pigeons > > Gumbo > > Hangovers > > Root Beer > > Jimi Hendrix > > HDTV > > Mothers-in-Law > > Global Warming > > Gravel > > WTF? > > WMDs > > Beer > > > > Norm > > > > Scott Loveless wrote: > >> Hey, gang. I think it's time to start discussing next year's PUG > >> themes. So toss 'em out. Be creative. Philosophize. Flame each > >> other's stupid ideas. Whatever. I'll take a look at the thread in a > >> few days and we'll narrow it down a bit. > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 6/19/07, Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, I'll give it a try... > > Black & White > Synchronicity > Flowers > Kittens > Dirty Socks > Strange Phenomena/UFOs > Baby Pigeons > Gumbo > Hangovers > Root Beer > Jimi Hendrix What about Janis Joplin. No one thinks of her. Dave > HDTV > Mothers-in-Law > Global Warming > Gravel > WTF? > WMDs > Beer > > Norm > > Scott Loveless wrote: > > Hey, gang. I think it's time to start discussing next year's PUG > > themes. So toss 'em out. Be creative. Philosophize. Flame each > > other's stupid ideas. Whatever. I'll take a look at the thread in a > > few days and we'll narrow it down a bit. > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Christian wrote: >you forgot: >Birds >Birds again >More birds >... How about an entire Alfred Hitchcock theme year? Birds Vertigo Psycho Lifeboat Frenzy Rope Blackmail Saboteur Notorious Spellbound Topaz Marnie (not AKA Doe, but still...) ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
> > From: Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/06/19 Tue PM 08:22:10 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: PUG themes for 2008 > > Hey, gang. I think it's time to start discussing next year's PUG > themes. So toss 'em out. Be creative. Philosophize. Flame each > other's stupid ideas. Whatever. I'll take a look at the thread in a > few days and we'll narrow it down a bit. Brickwork f8 Grass Synchronicity Tired Arithmetic Gas Legs - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PUG themes for 2008
I like many of the ones already suggested ("oops", especially). Myself, I'd suggest a couple of "specially coloured" themes, simple ones like: red, yellow, blue, green or more difficult ones as: lavender, fuchsia, violet, orange, and so on. Perhaps one of each. I don't know if it's been done already, though. Ciao, Flavio -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Loveless Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:22 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PUG themes for 2008 Hey, gang. I think it's time to start discussing next year's PUG themes. So toss 'em out. Be creative. Philosophize. Flame each other's stupid ideas. Whatever. I'll take a look at the thread in a few days and we'll narrow it down a bit. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This message and its attachments are addressed solely to the persons above and may contain confidential information. If you have received the message in error, be informed that any use of the content hereof is prohibited. Please return it immediately to the sender and delete the message. Should you have any questions, please contact us by replying to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you www.telecomitalia.it -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Could do Cormorants, Canada Geese, and Other Not-Favorite Birds stan On Jun 19, 2007, at 8:32 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Roberts" > Subject: Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008 > > >> Christian wrote: >> >>> you forgot: >>> Birds >>> Birds again >>> More birds >> >> Why not just "Cormorants"? > > The PUG is supposed to be as inclusive a gallery as possible. This > means > that themes should be doable with fairly basic equipment, and that the > subject shouldn't be exclusive to certain parts of the world. > My understanding is that cormorants are a seaside dwelling creature, > therefore out of reach of people who don't live near large bodies of > water... > > William Robb > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Baby pigeons... William Robb wrote: > The PUG is supposed to be as inclusive a gallery as possible. This means > that themes should be doable with fairly basic equipment, and that the > subject shouldn't be exclusive to certain parts of the world. > My understanding is that cormorants are a seaside dwelling creature, > therefore out of reach of people who don't live near large bodies of > water... > > William Robb > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008 > Christian wrote: > >>you forgot: >>Birds >>Birds again >>More birds > > Why not just "Cormorants"? The PUG is supposed to be as inclusive a gallery as possible. This means that themes should be doable with fairly basic equipment, and that the subject shouldn't be exclusive to certain parts of the world. My understanding is that cormorants are a seaside dwelling creature, therefore out of reach of people who don't live near large bodies of water... William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Christian wrote: >you forgot: >Birds >Birds again >More birds Why not just "Cormorants"? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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No, NO, NOOO! Not TheBirds! On 6/19/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you forgot: > Birds > Birds again > More birds > ... > > -- > > Christian > http://photography.skofteland.net > > > Norm Baugher wrote: > > OK, I'll give it a try... > > > > Black & White > > Synchronicity > > Flowers > > Kittens > > Dirty Socks > > Strange Phenomena/UFOs > > Baby Pigeons > > Gumbo > > Hangovers > > Root Beer > > Jimi Hendrix > > HDTV > > Mothers-in-Law > > Global Warming > > Gravel > > WTF? > > WMDs > > Beer > > > > Norm > > > > Scott Loveless wrote: > >> Hey, gang. I think it's time to start discussing next year's PUG > >> themes. So toss 'em out. Be creative. Philosophize. Flame each > >> other's stupid ideas. Whatever. I'll take a look at the thread in a > >> few days and we'll narrow it down a bit. > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
Rick Womer wrote: >To start things: > >Roots >Oops >Solitaire >Traffic > >Rick > I like "ooops" a lot also -- I suggest --- BUGS :) Especially the kind with 4 wheels ann > >--- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Hey, gang. I think it's time to start discussing >>next year's PUG >>themes. So toss 'em out. Be creative. >>Philosophize. Flame each >>other's stupid ideas. Whatever. I'll take a look >>at the thread in a >>few days and we'll narrow it down a bit. >> >>-- >>Scott Loveless >>http://www.twosixteen.com/ >> >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> > > > > > >Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for >today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. >http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
In a message dated 6/19/2007 1:29:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey, gang. I think it's time to start discussing next year's PUG themes. So toss 'em out. Be creative. Philosophize. Flame each other's stupid ideas. Whatever. I'll take a look at the thread in a few days and we'll narrow it down a bit. -- Scott Loveless == This always feels like a Rorschach test. Hard Soft Lightweight Dense Pattern Texture Shadow Obvious Subtle Juxtaposition Simplicity Technical Modern Old Profound Silly Travel Still Life Smooth Rough Signs Weathered Gloomy Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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you forgot: Birds Birds again More birds ... -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net Norm Baugher wrote: > OK, I'll give it a try... > > Black & White > Synchronicity > Flowers > Kittens > Dirty Socks > Strange Phenomena/UFOs > Baby Pigeons > Gumbo > Hangovers > Root Beer > Jimi Hendrix > HDTV > Mothers-in-Law > Global Warming > Gravel > WTF? > WMDs > Beer > > Norm > > Scott Loveless wrote: >> Hey, gang. I think it's time to start discussing next year's PUG >> themes. So toss 'em out. Be creative. Philosophize. Flame each >> other's stupid ideas. Whatever. I'll take a look at the thread in a >> few days and we'll narrow it down a bit. >> >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
OK, I'll give it a try... Black & White Synchronicity Flowers Kittens Dirty Socks Strange Phenomena/UFOs Baby Pigeons Gumbo Hangovers Root Beer Jimi Hendrix HDTV Mothers-in-Law Global Warming Gravel WTF? WMDs Beer Norm Scott Loveless wrote: > Hey, gang. I think it's time to start discussing next year's PUG > themes. So toss 'em out. Be creative. Philosophize. Flame each > other's stupid ideas. Whatever. I'll take a look at the thread in a > few days and we'll narrow it down a bit. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG themes for 2008
To start things: Roots Oops Solitaire Traffic Rick --- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, gang. I think it's time to start discussing > next year's PUG > themes. So toss 'em out. Be creative. > Philosophize. Flame each > other's stupid ideas. Whatever. I'll take a look > at the thread in a > few days and we'll narrow it down a bit. > > -- > Scott Loveless > http://www.twosixteen.com/ > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net