Re: Pentax APS F I L M SLR?
"David Madsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Actually there is a little tool for opening APS canisters for viewing the >film, but it doesn't do much good because the negs are so small that the >customer can't see what you are trying to show them. Yes, we have one of those. But it's still a pain to show the negs to the customer this way. And I wouldn't want *my* negs slapped on a light table unprotected. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Pentax APS F I L M SLR?
Jim Apilado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I used the panoramic option on my Canon ELPH and didn't like it. I decided >to avoid that option. The other two options are better. APS, remember, was >a creation of camera and film makers to encourage more people to shoot >pictures. And to encourage processors to buy more minilabs! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: Pentax APS F I L M SLR?
Actually there is a little tool for opening APS canisters for viewing the film, but it doesn't do much good because the negs are so small that the customer can't see what you are trying to show them. Dave -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 5:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax APS F I L M SLR? "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: "J. C. O'Connell" > >> BTW, did pentax ever make a APS FILM SLR? > >No. >Canon did, and it even used an EOS mount, and would mount EOS lenses. >They made a couple of lenses just for it, the wide angle on would >just about cover 35mm. >I think Nikon might have, but I haven't following APS film cameras at >all. Nikon did make one. It was called the "Pronea" or something similarly silly. Thankfully, APS is all but dead now. Last week we had a customer bring two APS cameras into the shop for repair. Well, he brought them in because they'd died in mid-roll (and, no, it wasn't a case of dead batteries) and he wanted us to get the film out. We discovered it couldn't be done on these models without disassembly of the camera. So he'll have to pay labor charges to a repair shop to get the film out before he throws the cameras away. The previous week we had a customer complaining about low-contrast, grainy prints. If it had been 35mm we'd have just thrown the negatives on the light table and said "look, they're drastically underexposed" but the negs were sealed in that little APS cartridge so we just had to try to convince her to take our word that it really wasn't our fault. NOT jumping into the APS market in a big way was one of the best decisions Pentax ever made :) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Pentax APS F I L M SLR?
I used the panoramic option on my Canon ELPH and didn't like it. I decided to avoid that option. The other two options are better. APS, remember, was a creation of camera and film makers to encourage more people to shoot pictures. I recall that Minolta had a special APS scanner for those people who were in to computers. Last summer my god daughter wanted to borrow a point and shoot camera from me. I said she could use a 35mm or APS. She requested APS. Jim A. > From: Andre Langevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:00:59 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Pentax APS F I L M SLR? > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:58:56 -0400 > >> NOT jumping into the APS market in a big way was one of the best >> decisions Pentax ever made :) >> >> Mark Roberts > > I tried the Efina T, one of only two Pentax APS cameras & > top-of-the-line if I remember well, and the results were not > encouraging at all. The worst part came when the panoramic option > was chosen. In the lab the film needed to be over-enlarged to give > the large panoramic prints and these were of course always grainy. > > Andre >
Re: Pentax APS F I L M SLR?
Actually, Pentax made 4 APS cameras. You're probably thinking of the Efina T and Efina J, but there was also the original Efina and and Efina AF50. All of them are horrible, but the Efina T was a very well-designed and well-built camera, easily outclassing the Canon Elphs. Chris On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:00:59 -0400, Andre Langevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >NOT jumping into the APS market in a big way was one of the best > >decisions Pentax ever made :) > > > >Mark Roberts > > I tried the Efina T, one of only two Pentax APS cameras & > top-of-the-line if I remember well, and the results were not > encouraging at all. The worst part came when the panoramic option > was chosen. In the lab the film needed to be over-enlarged to give > the large panoramic prints and these were of course always grainy. > > Andre > >
Re: Pentax APS F I L M SLR?
NOT jumping into the APS market in a big way was one of the best decisions Pentax ever made :) Mark Roberts I tried the Efina T, one of only two Pentax APS cameras & top-of-the-line if I remember well, and the results were not encouraging at all. The worst part came when the panoramic option was chosen. In the lab the film needed to be over-enlarged to give the large panoramic prints and these were of course always grainy. Andre
Re: Pentax APS F I L M SLR?
"William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: "J. C. O'Connell" > >> BTW, did pentax ever make a APS FILM SLR? > >No. >Canon did, and it even used an EOS mount, and would mount EOS lenses. >They made a couple of lenses just for it, the wide angle on would >just about cover 35mm. >I think Nikon might have, but I haven't following APS film cameras at >all. Nikon did make one. It was called the "Pronea" or something similarly silly. Thankfully, APS is all but dead now. Last week we had a customer bring two APS cameras into the shop for repair. Well, he brought them in because they'd died in mid-roll (and, no, it wasn't a case of dead batteries) and he wanted us to get the film out. We discovered it couldn't be done on these models without disassembly of the camera. So he'll have to pay labor charges to a repair shop to get the film out before he throws the cameras away. The previous week we had a customer complaining about low-contrast, grainy prints. If it had been 35mm we'd have just thrown the negatives on the light table and said "look, they're drastically underexposed" but the negs were sealed in that little APS cartridge so we just had to try to convince her to take our word that it really wasn't our fault. NOT jumping into the APS market in a big way was one of the best decisions Pentax ever made :) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Pentax APS F I L M SLR?
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: Pentax APS F I L M SLR? BTW, did pentax ever make a APS FILM SLR? No. Canon did, and it even used an EOS mount, and would mount EOS lenses. They made a couple of lenses just for it, the wide angle on would just about cover 35mm. I think Nikon might have, but I haven't following APS film cameras at all. William Robb
Re: Pentax APS F I L M SLR?
Nikon, Canon, and Minolta all made APS SLRs. They, along with Kodak, were the developers of this format. I bought a Canon ELPH camera. I still like the format and always recommend APS to people looking for a film camera. Jim A. > From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:57:38 -0400 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Pentax APS F I L M SLR? > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:58:06 -0400 > > BTW, did pentax ever make a APS FILM SLR? > If so, it must have used K mount lenses, no? > I don't recall one but I wasn't following > pentax very much in the 90's. > > JCO > > -Original Message- > From: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: M42 ultra-wide > > > sorry I meant kA-mount APS size digital sensor camera when I said APS > camera JCO > > > -Original Message- > From: David Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: M42 ultra-wide > > > I think that rob's point is that while focal length is nearly the same, > AOV isn't, and hence a comparison of AOV is more pertinant to the > discussion of APS vs FF. Comparing the DA 14mm with the FA 20mm shows > nicely how the APS lens isn't a saving in size and weight (or > cost!) for an equivalent AOV. > You talk about an APS camera. The *ist D is not one of these - it's a > 35mm body with an APS sized sensor in it. An APS camera would have a > smaller lens-film distance, a smaller mount or something like that. The > *ist D is saddled with 35mm's heritage. > > Cheers, > Procrastinating David >
