Re: Picture of the Week
Hi Guys, Thanks for everyones comments on my shot. I can see what each of you ment about it. It does appear slightly underexposed, i think this is the scan, i bracketed the shots 1/2 a stop over and under and this appears to be the best on the slide. I think theres to much sky:) Thanks, Paul - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Picture of the Week > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > Shel, I think it is more than that. It reminds me of the > > colorists of the 60's - Kenneth Noland, for one. The > > horizon is a bit above center to my eyes, too. I think > > it is a nice straightforward wouldn't you like to be here > > shot on one level and a study of color on another. > > OK, I went back and looked at it again since I respect your eye, color > sense, and judgment. On second viewing my opinion remains the same. > To me it's like any one of thousands of slightly underexposed sunset > shots one might grab while walking along the beach. Those pleasant > feelings and peaceful moments make us want to take a picture. And > this photo will make a nice memory for the photographer and, perhaps, > his or her companion. But what we have here is something akin to > photographing an emotion, preserving a memory and a moment. That's > all fine and good, and a valid reason for taking the picture. But on > a purely photographic level it doesn't cut it for me. I want more from > a photograph, and Paul is capable of giving us more. > > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Why should I use a meter? What if the darn thing broke on me > when I was out making a photograph? Then what would I do?" > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Picture of the Week
Hey Paul: Your beach shot is so reminiscent of mine in the PUG for August 99 - I guess Oz just has spectacular possibilities no matter what side of the continent we're on! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Picture of the Week
Ann Sanfedele wrote: > Shel, I think it is more than that. It reminds me of the > colorists of the 60's - Kenneth Noland, for one. The > horizon is a bit above center to my eyes, too. I think > it is a nice straightforward wouldn't you like to be here > shot on one level and a study of color on another. OK, I went back and looked at it again since I respect your eye, color sense, and judgment. On second viewing my opinion remains the same. To me it's like any one of thousands of slightly underexposed sunset shots one might grab while walking along the beach. Those pleasant feelings and peaceful moments make us want to take a picture. And this photo will make a nice memory for the photographer and, perhaps, his or her companion. But what we have here is something akin to photographing an emotion, preserving a memory and a moment. That's all fine and good, and a valid reason for taking the picture. But on a purely photographic level it doesn't cut it for me. I want more from a photograph, and Paul is capable of giving us more. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Why should I use a meter? What if the darn thing broke on me when I was out making a photograph? Then what would I do?" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Picture of the Week
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Hi, > > Here is my picture of the week. > I was on holidays last week so i didnt post week 6 on the > list, but its > there. > > As usual comments are welcomed. Beautiful! Christian Skofteland - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Picture of the Week
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Hi Paul ... > > This is a pretty picture ... and a pretty humdrum picture. Often > breaking the rule of thirds can contribute to something pretty > interesting, but running the horizon right through the middle of this > scene reduces any interest here. Shel, I think it is more than that. It reminds me of the colorists of the 60's - Kenneth Noland, for one. The horizon is a bit above center to my eyes, too. I think it is a nice straightforward wouldn't you like to be here shot on one level and a study of color on another. just my 2 cents.. I liked it. annsan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Picture of the Week
A gorgeous scene - and your colors came out so well! Maris - Original Message - From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:40 AM Subject: Picture of the Week | Hi, | | Here is my picture of the week. | I was on holidays last week so i didnt post week 6 on the list, but its | there. | | As usual comments are welcomed. | | http://www.alphalink.net.au/~nrg/week7.html | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Picture of the Week
Hi Paul ... This is a pretty picture ... and a pretty humdrum picture. Often breaking the rule of thirds can contribute to something pretty interesting, but running the horizon right through the middle of this scene reduces any interest here. The left side shows considerable light fall off, and while I believe that's the result of how the light fell naturally, it does nothing to help the photograph. I know you can do better. Using a 24mm lens allows one to play more with perspective. Perhaps if there were something of interest in the foreground you'd have something with more eye appeal and impact. I know you can produce better work than this. Paul Jones wrote: > Here is my picture of the week. > As usual comments are welcomed.> > http://www.alphalink.net.au/~nrg/week7.html -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Picture of the Week.
I thought i probaly shouldnt have needed to point the t-shirts, but did anyway :) Thanks for your comments. I hung out for about 30secs or so for someone to walk past. Paul Jones - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 12:47 AM Subject: Re: Picture of the Week. > Paul, > Terrific grab shot - well, terrific even if you hung out for > a while waiting for just the right gal or guy to go by... I > love the shot, > wish I'd taken it. One BUT - but it isn't about the photo - > you don't need > to point out the t-shirts. If anyone purports serious > interest in photography they are > gonna look at it all. I would think that even if someone > didn't know English > they would deduce that there was some relationship between > the background and > the foreground... > > I have been guilty of this, myself. I did a whole book on > signs hoping that > the structure of the photo would read on one level and the > integration of words > and images would not be missed by the viewers. Once in a > while I found myself > pointing out the words to someone who seemed to be missing > the joke and I try > verrry hard not to do that anymore. If someone ASKS - > that's different. Sometimes > it is just a language problem. > > But your picture to me _is_ "flash" (I think I just learned > a new idiomatic expression > or you left off the "y") > > I'm running off at the keyboard a lot lately - don't know > why - but one story > comes to mind. > > My very oldest friend is the world's worst speller, far > surpassing me. After > viewing a group of photos, all of which had words as a key > element, she said > "there is one of them I don't get." (We are on the phone, I > don't have the > photos in front of me.) I'm puzzled - we always laugh at > the same things -- > oh , wait a minute one of the shots is of graffiti on a > rock at the beach where the > "artist' had scrawled " Mans downfall will be his own > inteligence". > > Anyway, nice work, Paul! > > > annsan > http://users.rcn.com/annsan// > > Paul Jones wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Here is my picture of the week. Its nothing flash but i kinda liked it, note > > the > > t-shirts in the window. > > > > http://www.alphalink.net.au/~nrg/week5.html > > > > Side note, this was my first role of HP2 Super and i shot the film at ISOs > > ranging from 100-3200 and all the prints looks good. > > > > Regards, > > Paul Jones > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Picture of the Week (Fuji Acros)
To easy. At 09:28 PM 8/17/2001 +0100, you wrote: >I am glad to see we agree:-) > >Frits > > > > Colors? All I see is grey scale > > > > "Frits J. Wüthrich" wrote: > > > > > The effect of the mirror is quite nice, but I don't like the colours. > > > > > > Frits > > > - > > > Heres my Picture of the Week. > > > > > > http://www.alphalink.com.au/~nrg/week3.html > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Picture of the Week (Fuji Acros)
I am glad to see we agree:-) Frits > > Colors? All I see is grey scale > > "Frits J. Wüthrich" wrote: > > > The effect of the mirror is quite nice, but I don't like the colours. > > > > Frits > > - > > Heres my Picture of the Week. > > > > http://www.alphalink.com.au/~nrg/week3.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Picture of the Week (Fuji Acros)
Colors? All I see is grey scale "Frits J. Wüthrich" wrote: > The effect of the mirror is quite nice, but I don't like the colours. > > Frits > - > Heres my Picture of the Week. > > http://www.alphalink.com.au/~nrg/week3.html > > This is first roll of film I have developed myself in 10 years or so, I > managed to get a role of Fuji Acros, i'm not sure if i botched the > developing or not as the image seems quite grainy, more like a 400 or > faster.its been cropped a little bit. > > As usual feel free to comment. > > Regards, > Paul Jones > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Picture of the Week (Fuji Acros)
Paul Jones wrote: > Instructions to develop Acros in > Rodinal came with the film ... Odd ... there are no instructions for using Rodinal with the Acros I just bought. > I diluted the developer at 1-50, > agitated for the first 30 secs, > then once every 30 secs for the > total developing time of 17minutes. > The temperature was spot on of > all the chemicals. FWIW, I usually agitate for 5-seconds every minute with Rodinal. Gently. That's 2½ inversions with a twist thrown in. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Compose each frame as if it were a painting. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Picture of the Week (Fuji Acros)
Hi Shel, Instructions to develop Acros in Rodinal came with the film, I diluted the developer at 1-50, agitated for the first 30 secs, then once every 30 secs for the total developing time of 17minutes. The temperature was spot on of all the chemicals. I'll be developing some Neopan 400 on the weekend so from that i'll see if i'm doing something wrong, as i have shot this film quite a fit before and have something to compare it with. Regards, Paul Jones - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Picture of the Week (Fuji Acros) > Hi Paul ... > > Rodinal is not a fine-grain developer. It offers high acutance and > sharply defined grain, although, from what I've read about Acros, > grain should be quite minimal, even with Rodinal. > > What dilution did you use? What was your time/temp/agitation cycle? > Where did you obtain instructions to develop Acros in Rodinal? Was > the developer, stop, wash, and fix all within a degree or so of each > other? > > I've not shot Acros yet, although I picked up a few rolls the other > day. I'd not thought about processing it in Rodinal, but I might, > just to see what kind of results I get. > > > Paul Jones wrote: > > > Heres my Picture of the Week. > > > > http://www.alphalink.com.au/~nrg/week3.html > > > > This is first roll of film I have developed myself in 10 years or > > so, I managed to get a role of Fuji Acros, i'm not sure if i botched > > the developing or not as the image seems quite grainy, more like a > > 400 or faster.its been cropped a little bit. > > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Photography lets you make fully symbolic statements on > the nature of reality that'll shame you ten years later. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Picture of the Week (Fuji Acros)
Hi, Thanks for your comments. yeah i know the links down the bottom dont work right, i havent had time to really fiddle with the page yet. I probaly wont get a to try Acros again as they will only be importing it in 120 to Australia. Regards, Paul Jones - Original Message - From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:24 PM Subject: Re: Picture of the Week (Fuji Acros) > > Paul Jones wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Heres my Picture of the Week. > > > > http://www.alphalink.com.au/~nrg/week3.html > > > > This is first roll of film I have developed myself in 10 years or so, > > I managed to get a role of Fuji Acros, i'm not sure if i botched the > > developing or not as the image seems quite grainy, more like a 400 or > > faster.its been cropped a little bit. > > Rodinal ain't exactly a fine grain developer. You may be used to seeing > prints with smoother grain. It could be underexposed also, maybe even > reticulated. > > The 'back' and 'next' links seem to need a little work. > > The pic seems kind of overly busy, but I'm glad you were able to portray > Ronald McDonald in the menacing and evil light he deserves. > > On a similarly grainy note, I made my first few prints from PMK today. > My initial feeling is that it's not real suitable for fast 35mm film. > Tri-X is very grainy. TMAX 400 at 250 is pretty grainy too. > > The Pan F+ looks pretty nice, but still, a bit grainy. > > It does have an interesting sharp look to it. > > tv > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Picture of the Week (Fuji Acros)
> Paul Jones wrote: > > Hi, > > Heres my Picture of the Week. > > http://www.alphalink.com.au/~nrg/week3.html > > This is first roll of film I have developed myself in 10 years or so, > I managed to get a role of Fuji Acros, i'm not sure if i botched the > developing or not as the image seems quite grainy, more like a 400 or > faster.its been cropped a little bit. Rodinal ain't exactly a fine grain developer. You may be used to seeing prints with smoother grain. It could be underexposed also, maybe even reticulated. The 'back' and 'next' links seem to need a little work. The pic seems kind of overly busy, but I'm glad you were able to portray Ronald McDonald in the menacing and evil light he deserves. On a similarly grainy note, I made my first few prints from PMK today. My initial feeling is that it's not real suitable for fast 35mm film. Tri-X is very grainy. TMAX 400 at 250 is pretty grainy too. The Pan F+ looks pretty nice, but still, a bit grainy. It does have an interesting sharp look to it. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
