RE: Quality Digital BW

2002-04-11 Thread John Coyle

Shel - I use ordinary Epson inks and photo-quality glossy paper for my BW. 
 Whether it is high enough quality is obviously debatable, but I find it 
acceptable, and I guess that's what counts.  It's probably a case of YMMV!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia


On Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:02 PM, Shel Belinkoff 
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 Is it true that BW quality digital output is limited to quadtone inks,
 and that only matte paper is available for such output?
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Re: Quality Digital BW

2002-04-11 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 08:01  AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 Is it true that BW quality digital output is limited to quadtone inks,
 and that only matte paper is available for such output?

Quadtone for quality: it depends.  Quadtone is much better than printing 
black ink only -- better blending, better detail, less patterning.  
Black ink only adds a kind of grain to the image, but depending on the 
film and the print size, it is not always noticeable.  APX 25 printed at 
4x6 would look like crap this way, but TX printed 16x20 would look fine.

Another option is to make duotones in Photoshop, but using this method 
you can never get a truly neutral print.  If you like to print on 
warmtone or coldtone papers in the darkroom, duotones will suit you fine.

As to matte paper, paper choice depends on what inks are used and how 
they react.  I've seen some excellent glossy inkjet papers, but they do 
not produce a good print with every kind of ink -- for instance, 
Tetenal's high gloss paper is phenomenal in dye-based printers like the 
older Epsons and the newer not-so-archival printers, but it absolutely 
STINKS in the pigment-based machines like the 2000P and the 7500 (the 
pigment never drops below the surface layer, just sitting on top looking 
like paint).  However, Ilford's new Galerie glossy stuff is great in the 
7500, so if the issue with quadtone on glossy was because of the 
pigments being incompatible with certain papers, that may no longer be a 
problem.

-Aaron

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PDML reading even AFTER deleting the Queen Mum/motorcycle helmet/smoking 
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Re: Quality Digital BW

2002-04-11 Thread Brendan

For me it wasn't a matter of quality but cost. I have
an HP 1120
printer that I could get the 4 grey carts for but the
cost of ink +
coated paper was more than setting up my own darkroom. 

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