Film vs. Digital (WAS: Re: RE: Hypothetical Question)
Glen wrote: > For a very impressive review including image comparisons of the EOS D1s and > 35mm and 645 (buy the way he uses the Pentax 645) see this page below. > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/1ds/1ds-field.shtml He isn't. He is comparing his digital camera with another digital camera; the latter take pictures of film. For judging these two digital cameras he create a copy. Then he make conclusion about the original. Or in other words: He is comparing a second generation copy with a third generation copy. Both copying processes has a resolution below even the most rotten third party lens. Then he make conclusions about the original. He could just as well be comparing apple and oranges. Pål
Re: RE: Hypothetical Question
>Just not sure how the CMOS works vs the CCD.I always associated CMOS >as start up computer programing.I have seen the Canon 1D and it looks >nice and its cheaper than the Dxx series from Nikon. >Any CMOS commentsCotty? >From what I gather, the CMOS uses vastly less power than a comparable CCD. This seems to bear out in practice. I have the grip with provision for 2 Liithium Ion battery packs, and the 2 packs. Charged up, with occasional snapping and say a good couple of hours shooting on a Saturday, so say about 400 exposures, maybe 450 in all, I can go a good 2 WEEKS before they're exhausted. I have disabled auto-shut-off. The camera stays on all the time when shooting unless I switch it off manually. The packs are amazing. Personally I wouldn't dally with AA-anything. .02pixels :-) Cot Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/
Re: RE: Hypothetical Question
On 18 Dec 2002 at 16:27, David Brooks wrote: > Just not sure how the CMOS works vs the CCD.I always associated CMOS > as start up computer programing.I have seen the Canon 1D and it looks > nice and its cheaper than the Dxx series from Nikon. > Any CMOS commentsCotty? CMOS is a far better option than CCD however it has only recently been developed to a point where it would be suitable for professional photographic applications. CCD sensors will displaced completely in the not to distant future. See: http://kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/cameras/dcsPro14n/cmos.jhtml?id =0.3.6.30.5.8.3.18.3&lc=en Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
RE: RE: Hypothetical Question
For a very impressive review including image comparisons of the EOS D1s and 35mm and 645 (buy the way he uses the Pentax 645) see this page below. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/1ds/1ds-field.shtml -Original Message- From: David Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: Hypothetical Question Two thinks i like about the D1 even with the 80-200 f2.8 on it,is its well balanced even with the weight.The Pentax DSLR would have to ,for me,be aswell. Also the shutter"lag" is that of an slr,meaning its good for capturing high speed sports with out panning(not to say panning is bad) Just not sure how the CMOS works vs the CCD.I always associated CMOS as start up computer programing.I have seen the Canon 1D and it looks nice and its cheaper than the Dxx series from Nikon. Any CMOS commentsCotty? Dave Begin Original Message From: "Glen O'Neal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:56:27 -0600 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Hypothetical Question Personally although I love Pentax gear I am considering a move to C. I have done a lot of research on the EOS 1Ds and am really impressed with the images produced by the full frame CMOS sensor as well as the other features. So if Pentax is listening, my desire is for an 11 MP CMOS full frame sensor DSLR that can give me nearly the same quality as my 645n. If I do decide to move over I will be selling off all my Pentax gear in one fell swoop. I am already putting together a price list but want to sell it all in one transaction. Come on Pentax ... get it together. Glen -Original Message- From: Len Paris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Hypothetical Question I hope they listen now. I would buy a 6MP CCD or CMOS DSLR and would not mind if the chip is APS sized. If they could manage a CMOS chip like the Foveon, with some enhancements over the one used in the Sigma SD- 9, I'd be very happy. I don't need anything a lot larger than that. Keep the price $2200 or less and they've got me hooked. Len --- > I hear they listened to the list on the MZ-D though. > All you guys said you would never, pay that much for a > camera. They believed you. > > Ciao, > Graywolf End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: RE: Hypothetical Question
Two thinks i like about the D1 even with the 80-200 f2.8 on it,is its well balanced even with the weight.The Pentax DSLR would have to ,for me,be aswell. Also the shutter"lag" is that of an slr,meaning its good for capturing high speed sports with out panning(not to say panning is bad) Just not sure how the CMOS works vs the CCD.I always associated CMOS as start up computer programing.I have seen the Canon 1D and it looks nice and its cheaper than the Dxx series from Nikon. Any CMOS commentsCotty? Dave Begin Original Message From: "Glen O'Neal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:56:27 -0600 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Hypothetical Question Personally although I love Pentax gear I am considering a move to C. I have done a lot of research on the EOS 1Ds and am really impressed with the images produced by the full frame CMOS sensor as well as the other features. So if Pentax is listening, my desire is for an 11 MP CMOS full frame sensor DSLR that can give me nearly the same quality as my 645n. If I do decide to move over I will be selling off all my Pentax gear in one fell swoop. I am already putting together a price list but want to sell it all in one transaction. Come on Pentax ... get it together. Glen -Original Message- From: Len Paris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Hypothetical Question I hope they listen now. I would buy a 6MP CCD or CMOS DSLR and would not mind if the chip is APS sized. If they could manage a CMOS chip like the Foveon, with some enhancements over the one used in the Sigma SD- 9, I'd be very happy. I don't need anything a lot larger than that. Keep the price $2200 or less and they've got me hooked. Len --- > I hear they listened to the list on the MZ-D though. > All you guys said you would never, pay that much for a > camera. They believed you. > > Ciao, > Graywolf End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Re: Hypothetical Question
So we will see what happens! I think Pentax knows that many users sticks to them since they have great compatibility. But not many people start with Pentax since they have no silent and ultra fast quit cheap motors and plenty of gear not mentioning that sale assistants usual advise "new buyers" to choose Canon/Nikon. Moreover, some people want to use gear which is used by pros. So we will see. Alek Użytkownik Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał: Użytkownik Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał: >> My question is this: Could Pentax actually use this list for advice >> and stay in business? We may be too eclectic a group to be a good >> source of market research. We still argue over the PZ-1p vs the MZ-S. >> Many here don't even want autofocus. > > >This is pretty much what I was wondering about when I wrote the original >"Hypothetical Question." People here wonder whether Pentax monitors this >list (they do), and whether they listen to our advice when advising Japan >about product development...I don't know whether they do that or not, but I >have to wonder if it would be productive if they did. > >I know that one Pentax person has told me privately that despite all the >gushing and lauding of the LX on this list, even diehards weren't buying new >LX's at the end of its lifespan. Most were buying used, or were using LXen >purchased many years previously. > >Some of the comments about a digital SLR would probably be of value to them, >especially from the perspective of not alienating longtime Pentax >aficionados. But of course that's only going to be one consideration out of >many in the design and concept of the new camera. > >We're only a few months away now...the Pentax DSLR is coming, > >--Mike >
