OT: Re: Send Mz-S to Repair

2002-05-14 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Emilio Puga
Subject: RE: Send Mz-S to Repair


> I think nothing for a Malasian Company, you know how well they
pay their
> people??¿¿.

At the risk of offending (like that ever bothers me), this is a
pretty specious statement.
Here in North America, and I include Canada in this as well, and
I expect the rest of the western world, there is a pretty vast
number of people who are extraordinarily underpaid.
I speak specifically of people in the retail and service sector.
These are people who get worked the hardest, get to suffer the
abuse of disgruntled people over situations they have little or
no control over, and have little or no job security.
Anyone who plays off one store against another, or goes to a
mail order rather than a local business so they can save a few
dollars is promoting this, and it spreads from the frontline
person right back to the people who produce the raw materials to
make whatever you are buying.

If we practice this sort of sweatshop capitalism in the western
world, why would you hold a higher standard for a "developing
nation" as the CBC so cutely calls countries that don't have the
economic advantages of North American or other Western nations.

If we don't buy from countries like Malaysia, who are we really
hurting? Are we hurting corpoations and their boards of
directors or are we hurting the very workers whose plight we are
sympathetic towards?

If you are really concerned about the state of workers affairs
in Malaysia, I suggest you would be better advised to buy the
Malaysian made product, to help out the workers there as best
you can now, and then lobby your government to put pressure on
the Malaysian government to pass some worker protecion laws.

Just remember, though, the reason Japanese companies go to
developing countries for labour is because we want cheap
products here in the west.

We are the problem, not the Malaysian companies.

William Robb



>
>
> -Mensaje original-
> De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]En nombre de Lukasz
Kacperczyk
> Enviado el: lunes, 13 de mayo de 2002 0:51
> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Asunto: RE: Send Mz-S to Repair
>
>
> What's wrong with Malaysia? ;)
> Lukasz
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Emilio Puga
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 10:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Send Mz-S to Repair
>
>
> Oh, god apologise me, don´t buy a MZ-S, BUY TWO OF EM.
Well, I have to
> say you that mine was of the earlier series, new cameras don´t
have this
> problems, and believe me it´s a GREAT CAMERA, yesterday I held
a Dinax 7 and
> yes It looks like if it were designed by George Lucas, but
doesn´t have the
> finish of my beloved pentax, and one detail, one of the first
things I look
> when someone try to sell me a camera is to look at the bottom,
and guess
> what I found on Dinax/Maxxum 7??¿¿
> MADE IN MALASYA Now I understand those cheap plastics.
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RE: Send Mz-S to Repair

2002-05-13 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk

Didn't think of that.
Lukasz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Emilio Puga
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Send Mz-S to Repair


I think nothing for a Malasian Company, you know how well they pay their
people??¿¿.


-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]En nombre de Lukasz Kacperczyk
Enviado el: lunes, 13 de mayo de 2002 0:51
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: RE: Send Mz-S to Repair


What's wrong with Malaysia? ;)
Lukasz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Emilio Puga
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 10:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Send Mz-S to Repair


Oh, god apologise me, don´t buy a MZ-S, BUY TWO OF EM. Well, I have to
say you that mine was of the earlier series, new cameras don´t have this
problems, and believe me it´s a GREAT CAMERA, yesterday I held a Dinax 7 and
yes It looks like if it were designed by George Lucas, but doesn´t have the
finish of my beloved pentax, and one detail, one of the first things I look
when someone try to sell me a camera is to look at the bottom, and guess
what I found on Dinax/Maxxum 7??¿¿
MADE IN MALASYA Now I understand those cheap plastics.


-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]En nombre de David S.
Enviado el: domingo, 12 de mayo de 2002 18:35
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: Send Mz-S to Repair


Emilio Puga wrote:

> Hi group, few weeks ago I were asking you if someone had problems with
> Mz-S´s rewind when using Slide film, cracks and unrewound rolls, and a you
> told me that it is normal, cause mz-s´s film receptacle is a bit critical
> with film positioning, well, after two weeks of tests, and after following
> all your instrutions, I send my camera for repair to Reflecta Spain
(pentax
> distributor). The thing its that after two weeks they call me saing that
> they don´t see anithing wrong on the camera, then I asked the repair man
if
> they tried it with Slide film, and guess the answer??? -Oh, not tried with
> slide because don´t have a roll here- Ok, they will test it on monday and
> say something to me.
> Oh god everithing is happening to me, my 645n makes wrong aperture
readouts,
> my Mx´s meter is locked on the on position, my tokina 28-70 2,6 crashed ,
> uaaa what can I do?? place a candle to someone?? or maybe pay a
gipsy??
>

I am beginning to know what you feel like.  I have to put $2000 of repairs
into
my vehicle.  I WAS thinking of buying an MZ-S, that will be delayed now.

--
David S.
Nature and wildlife photography http://www.sheppardphotos.com
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RE: Send Mz-S to Repair

2002-05-13 Thread Emilio Puga

I think nothing for a Malasian Company, you know how well they pay their
people??¿¿.


-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]En nombre de Lukasz Kacperczyk
Enviado el: lunes, 13 de mayo de 2002 0:51
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: RE: Send Mz-S to Repair


What's wrong with Malaysia? ;)
Lukasz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Emilio Puga
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 10:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Send Mz-S to Repair


Oh, god apologise me, don´t buy a MZ-S, BUY TWO OF EM. Well, I have to
say you that mine was of the earlier series, new cameras don´t have this
problems, and believe me it´s a GREAT CAMERA, yesterday I held a Dinax 7 and
yes It looks like if it were designed by George Lucas, but doesn´t have the
finish of my beloved pentax, and one detail, one of the first things I look
when someone try to sell me a camera is to look at the bottom, and guess
what I found on Dinax/Maxxum 7??¿¿
MADE IN MALASYA Now I understand those cheap plastics.


-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]En nombre de David S.
Enviado el: domingo, 12 de mayo de 2002 18:35
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: Send Mz-S to Repair


Emilio Puga wrote:

> Hi group, few weeks ago I were asking you if someone had problems with
> Mz-S´s rewind when using Slide film, cracks and unrewound rolls, and a you
> told me that it is normal, cause mz-s´s film receptacle is a bit critical
> with film positioning, well, after two weeks of tests, and after following
> all your instrutions, I send my camera for repair to Reflecta Spain
(pentax
> distributor). The thing its that after two weeks they call me saing that
> they don´t see anithing wrong on the camera, then I asked the repair man
if
> they tried it with Slide film, and guess the answer??? -Oh, not tried with
> slide because don´t have a roll here- Ok, they will test it on monday and
> say something to me.
> Oh god everithing is happening to me, my 645n makes wrong aperture
readouts,
> my Mx´s meter is locked on the on position, my tokina 28-70 2,6 crashed ,
> uaaa what can I do?? place a candle to someone?? or maybe pay a
gipsy??
>

I am beginning to know what you feel like.  I have to put $2000 of repairs
into
my vehicle.  I WAS thinking of buying an MZ-S, that will be delayed now.

--
David S.
Nature and wildlife photography http://www.sheppardphotos.com
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RE: Send Mz-S to Repair

2002-05-12 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk

What's wrong with Malaysia? ;)
Lukasz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Emilio Puga
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 10:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Send Mz-S to Repair


Oh, god apologise me, don´t buy a MZ-S, BUY TWO OF EM. Well, I have to
say you that mine was of the earlier series, new cameras don´t have this
problems, and believe me it´s a GREAT CAMERA, yesterday I held a Dinax 7 and
yes It looks like if it were designed by George Lucas, but doesn´t have the
finish of my beloved pentax, and one detail, one of the first things I look
when someone try to sell me a camera is to look at the bottom, and guess
what I found on Dinax/Maxxum 7??¿¿
MADE IN MALASYA Now I understand those cheap plastics.


-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]En nombre de David S.
Enviado el: domingo, 12 de mayo de 2002 18:35
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: Send Mz-S to Repair


Emilio Puga wrote:

> Hi group, few weeks ago I were asking you if someone had problems with
> Mz-S´s rewind when using Slide film, cracks and unrewound rolls, and a you
> told me that it is normal, cause mz-s´s film receptacle is a bit critical
> with film positioning, well, after two weeks of tests, and after following
> all your instrutions, I send my camera for repair to Reflecta Spain
(pentax
> distributor). The thing its that after two weeks they call me saing that
> they don´t see anithing wrong on the camera, then I asked the repair man
if
> they tried it with Slide film, and guess the answer??? -Oh, not tried with
> slide because don´t have a roll here- Ok, they will test it on monday and
> say something to me.
> Oh god everithing is happening to me, my 645n makes wrong aperture
readouts,
> my Mx´s meter is locked on the on position, my tokina 28-70 2,6 crashed ,
> uaaa what can I do?? place a candle to someone?? or maybe pay a
gipsy??
>

I am beginning to know what you feel like.  I have to put $2000 of repairs
into
my vehicle.  I WAS thinking of buying an MZ-S, that will be delayed now.

--
David S.
Nature and wildlife photography http://www.sheppardphotos.com
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Re: Send Mz-S to Repair

2002-05-12 Thread David S.

Emilio Puga wrote:

> Hi group, few weeks ago I were asking you if someone had problems with
> Mz-S´s rewind when using Slide film, cracks and unrewound rolls, and a you
> told me that it is normal, cause mz-s´s film receptacle is a bit critical
> with film positioning, well, after two weeks of tests, and after following
> all your instrutions, I send my camera for repair to Reflecta Spain (pentax
> distributor). The thing its that after two weeks they call me saing that
> they don´t see anithing wrong on the camera, then I asked the repair man if
> they tried it with Slide film, and guess the answer??? -Oh, not tried with
> slide because don´t have a roll here- Ok, they will test it on monday and
> say something to me.
> Oh god everithing is happening to me, my 645n makes wrong aperture readouts,
> my Mx´s meter is locked on the on position, my tokina 28-70 2,6 crashed ,
> uaaa what can I do?? place a candle to someone?? or maybe pay a gipsy??
>

I am beginning to know what you feel like.  I have to put $2000 of repairs into
my vehicle.  I WAS thinking of buying an MZ-S, that will be delayed now.

--
David S.
Nature and wildlife photography http://www.sheppardphotos.com
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