RE: Tele-converter, Pentax, Pentax or Vivitar, at wich price?

2003-09-17 Thread Hans Beumer
But if you want to use the 200mm with this converter, it's usually for long
distance shots, isn't it (that's at least what I should do). So there is a
lot of focussing at infinity. That should be okay. But its possibly harder
to get a great composition. That should be the price one pays.
Hans b.

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Fred wrote:
>
> > ...you'll have the equivalent of a f16 400mm with any if these
> > converters

> Well, a 2X TC used with a K 200/4 would give you 400mm at ~f/8~
> (but, of course, you would then usually stop down, if possible).
>
> Fred

That's one of the real problems with TCs, isn't it.
If you need the sharpness of your prime lens, which is usually best at
least 2 stops from full open, that will not be averted by the use of a
TC, but the 2X or 3X exposure increase forces you into a very dark, hard
to focus viewfinder situation.
If you're really lucky to possess a lens that performs well at close to
maximum aperture, make a note of that fact! "Okay to use with TC!"

keith whaley




Re: Tele-converter, Pentax, Pentax or Vivitar, at wich price?

2003-09-17 Thread Keith Whaley


Fred wrote:
> 
> > ...you'll have the equivalent of a f16 400mm with any if these
> > converters

> Well, a 2X TC used with a K 200/4 would give you 400mm at ~f/8~
> (but, of course, you would then usually stop down, if possible).
> 
> Fred

That's one of the real problems with TCs, isn't it.
If you need the sharpness of your prime lens, which is usually best at
least 2 stops from full open, that will not be averted by the use of a
TC, but the 2X or 3X exposure increase forces you into a very dark, hard
to focus viewfinder situation.
If you're really lucky to possess a lens that performs well at close to
maximum aperture, make a note of that fact! "Okay to use with TC!"

keith whaley



Re: Tele-converter, Pentax, Pentax or Vivitar, at wich price?

2003-09-17 Thread Peter Alling
It's was late, I was tired what can I say.

At 09:20 PM 9/16/03 -0400, you wrote:
> you'll have the equivalent of a f16 400mm with any if these
> converters
Well, a 2X TC used with a K 200/4 would give you 400mm at ~f/8~
(but, of course, you would then usually stop down, if possible).
Fred
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designed by
the post office, even the sleaze.
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Re: Tele-converter, Pentax, Pentax or Vivitar, at wich price?

2003-09-16 Thread Fred
> you'll have the equivalent of a f16 400mm with any if these 
> converters

Well, a 2X TC used with a K 200/4 would give you 400mm at ~f/8~
(but, of course, you would then usually stop down, if possible).

Fred




RE: Tele-converter, Pentax, Pentax or Vivitar, at wich price?

2003-09-14 Thread Familie Scheffler
Hello Hans ,
if you haven't got one, I could sell a Pentax T6-2x to you. I found that in
reality I do not take pictures with more than 200mm so I am not in need for
it any more.

Please email me oof the list.

Best regards
Bernd
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From: Hans Beumer
Subject: RE: Tele-converter, Pentax, Pentax or Vivitar, at wich price?
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 08:34:57 -0700


I actually just would like to use the tele converter function, since I've
got a A 100mm/4 macro-lens. So the macro-function is just an extra.
greetings, Hans B.




RE: Tele-converter, Pentax, Pentax or Vivitar, at wich price?

2003-09-14 Thread Hans Beumer
I actually just would like to use the tele converter function, since I've
got a A 100mm/4 macro-lens. So the macro-function is just an extra.
greetings, Hans B.

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Hans Beumer wrote:

"With that vivitar  macro converter, do you get a double focus-mechanisme,
(one on the lens, and one on the converter) or just focus on the lens?"

I suggest that you pre-focus the lens and set the vivitar extension so they
give you the magnification that you want and then do your focusing by moving
the camera toward and away from the subject. It's much less frustrating that
way. In my experience, trying to focus the camera and hold it steady at the
same time when your depth of field is only a quarter inch is an exercise in
futility.

I recommend a macro focusing rail mounted on a tripod if you're going to get
serious about macro photography.





RE: Tele-converter, Pentax, Pentax or Vivitar, at wich price?

2003-09-14 Thread Tom Reese
Hans Beumer wrote:

"With that vivitar  macro converter, do you get a double focus-mechanisme,
(one on the lens, and one on the converter) or just focus on the lens?"

I suggest that you pre-focus the lens and set the vivitar extension so they
give you the magnification that you want and then do your focusing by moving
the camera toward and away from the subject. It's much less frustrating that
way. In my experience, trying to focus the camera and hold it steady at the
same time when your depth of field is only a quarter inch is an exercise in
futility.

I recommend a macro focusing rail mounted on a tripod if you're going to get
serious about macro photography.




Re: Tele-converter, Pentax, Pentax or Vivitar, at wich price?

2003-09-13 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, John Mustarde wrote:

> The other Vivitar 2x teleconverters, like most 2x TCs, are often a
> waste of money because they soften the image too much.

Interesting. Does anybody know how bad the Kiron MC7 2X T/C for PA is?

> Vivitar has the added value of the variable Macro extension tube built
> in, which is a very useful feature.

Is that like a zoom on the T/C?

Thanks,
Kostas



Re: Tele-converter, Pentax, Pentax or Vivitar, at wich price?

2003-09-13 Thread Dag T
You get two, and the one on the TC goes the wrong way.

Apart from that it´s good.  I´ve used mine with a 50 1.4 for years as 
an alternative to a 100 2.8 macro.  Of course it´s not as good as the 
real macro lens, but close enough for many purposes.

DagT

På lørdag, 13. september 2003, kl. 18:16, skrev Hans Beumer:

thanks for your respond.
With that vivitar  macro converter, do you get a double 
focus-mechanisme,
(one on the lens, and one on the converter) or just focus on the lens?
Greetings, Hans B.

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price?

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 17:35:24 +0200, you wrote:

I would like to get me a good 2x converter. I expect the Pentax T6-2X 
and
A2X-S to be good.
But I also here good sounds about the vivitar macro-teleconverter. And
there
is also a normal vivitar 2x converter. (I've seen the last one for 
about 12
euro's or 10 USD.)
It should mainly be used on a MX +K200/4
Is there a great quality difference between these converters and what 
is a
reasonable price in USD or Euro for these converters? (In good 
condition)

Met vriendelijke groet (or greetings),
Hans Beumer.
mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The "Vivitar 2x Macro Focusing Teleconverter" is one of the few good
2x TCs around.  Price is about $45 to $55 used.   The latest model for
Pentax is the PK-A version.  It is as good as any 2x TC except maybe
some of the dedicated ones with the long snout that only fit certain
lenses, such as the Pentax 2.0 X-L.
The other Vivitar 2x teleconverters, like most 2x TCs, are often a
waste of money because they soften the image too much.  Better to get
a good one the first time out, and the Vivitar 2x Macro Focusing
Teleconverter is a good one.  Generally, this particular 2x TC is much
less expensive than Pentax models of similar optical quality, and the
Vivitar has the added value of the variable Macro extension tube built
in, which is a very useful feature.
--
John Mustarde
www.photolin.com