Re: The myth of "ist" and 67III

2003-02-04 Thread Alan Chan
Lets face it: MF is declining and it appeals to the enthusiasts. You won't 
lure any one new into MF by being cheap. Cheap MF has existed for years. 
Now people are going elsewhere (digital). The new camera will appeal to the 
users of the current one, and/or Pentax users in general, and it will 
almost certainly be more expensive.

Perhaps Pentax planned to be the 1st to produce IS lenses for 120 format?

regards,
Alan Chan

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Re: The myth of "ist" and 67III

2003-02-04 Thread KT Takeshita
On 2/04/03 1:17 PM, "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I want
> it to be fully compatible with the current lenses.  You don't buy MF
> to save money on your photography.

I thought so too :-).

Ken




RE: The myth of "ist" and 67III

2003-02-04 Thread Steve Desjardins
last I looked, a new 6x7 body from B&H was running about $1500.  The
$1000 difference might let me buy a lens. . .

> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Rubenstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> 
> It's not the bodies that cost, it's the lenses. Where are you 
> going to 
> find a $100 Sigma 6x7 zoom for it?



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Re: The myth of "ist" and 67III

2003-02-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
As for me, I'm not asking for a smaller 67 or a plastic one.  I want
it to be fully compatible with the current lenses.  You don't buy MF
to save money on your photography.  About the only area where I find
the 67II problematic is in the flash synch area.  They could really
use a new 75mm leaf shutter lens to go with the 165 and possibly
improve the standard flash synch to 1/60.

I await the news with interest.


Bruce



Tuesday, February 4, 2003, 9:37:30 AM, you wrote:

BR> It's not the bodies that cost, it's the lenses. Where are you going to 
BR> find a $100 Sigma 6x7 zoom for it?

BR> BR

BR> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>Oh the horror, the horror . . . 
>>
>>How about a plastic MZ/ZX style 6x7 for under $500?  Make it easier for
>>those amateur types to enter the MF area . . .  If it were cheap enough,
>>I'd think about buying it.
>>
>>  
>>




RE: The myth of "ist" and 67III

2003-02-04 Thread Rob Brigham
More speculation for PMA:

Sigma to unveil a complete range of 6x7 lenses with OS ;-)

> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Rubenstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> 
> It's not the bodies that cost, it's the lenses. Where are you 
> going to 
> find a $100 Sigma 6x7 zoom for it?




Re: The myth of "ist" and 67III

2003-02-04 Thread Keith Whaley


Pål Jensen wrote:
> 
> Henry wrote:Hnenry wrote:
> 
> > It appears to me that the rumours of the new Pentax cameras "ist" and 67III
> > come from a recent interview of the President of Pentax in Japan.  During
> > the interview, he said that compact and simple are the major direction of
> > current Pentax camera development and Pentax is developing a compact version
> > of the 67 camera.  He quoted the highly popular "ist" series of small car
> > from Toyota as the example and role model for Pentax:
> >
> 
> My source is not the President of Pentax but is nice to see that he too confirm the 
>work of a more compact 67. This interview explains the origins of the "ist" name and 
>we can therefore assume that this name will not be used. Otherwise I'm not entirely 
>happy with this news as those Toyotas are horrible.
> 
> Pål

What does "those Toyotas are horrible." mean?
What is your experience with them?

keith




Re: The myth of "ist" and 67III

2003-02-04 Thread Mike Johnston
> It appears to me that the rumours of the new Pentax cameras "ist" and 67III
> come from a recent interview of the President of Pentax in Japan.  During
> the interview, he said that compact and simple are the major direction of
> current Pentax camera development and Pentax is developing a compact version
> of the 67 camera.  He quoted the highly popular "ist" series of small car
> from Toyota as the example and role model for Pentax



Henry,
Thanks very much for this information, which is fascinating. It partly
amplifies, partly corrects, and partly confirms what Pal was reporting.

It will be really interesting to see what a redesigned 6x7 would look like.
The current camera has such old roots.

I personally hope that it has the metering in the body, not in the prism.
Many years ago I used an Exakta 66 for about 6 months--it was an unmetered
6x6 SLR with a waist-level finder. I had so many reliability problems with
it that I gave it up (it had much more ancient roots than the P67, going
back to the Praktisix and Pentacon Six), but I was addicted to the
combination of the SLR layout and waist-level viewing. Adding metering to
that arrangement would be great.

When I shot with that Exakta 66 I went for six months without a light meter.
I got very good at it, but it takes concentration--I always had to be
looking at the light, and I photographed every day. I've tried going without
a meter since then, but when I only photograph once or twice a week it is
much more difficult.

--Mike




Re: The myth of "ist" and 67III

2003-02-03 Thread Iren & Henry Chu
According to a Japanese Pentax user, the official reply from Pentax Japan 
regarding his telephone enquiry on the rumoured "ist" camera is as follows:

"we are still not able to release that kind of information, and there is no 
that kind of information itself. We are continuing with the development and 
research of various new products, but concerning concrete new products 
nothing has been decided."

Sorry for my broken English translation for the dipomatic words.

Regards,

Henry Chu
4/2/2003



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