RE: Travelling to South Africa ..

2012-07-14 Thread Bob W
  Quoting Anand DHUPKAR anand_dhupkar at yahoo.com:
 
   Folks - need some input.
  
   I am  frequent visitor but infrequent poster on pdml.
  
  Looks like I am likely to travel to Johannesburg, South Africa, for
   work - in a week or so.
  
   Curious - any safety concerns that I need to be aware of ?
 
 
 
  I've never been to South Africa so I don't have pe4sonal experience,
  but the Australian Government issues 'Travel Advisories' for visitors
  to many countries.  The advice for South Africa might help,
 especially
  the 'Safety and Security' tab.
 
  http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/South_Africa
 
 
  Other governments probably issue similar advisories.
 
 
 
 US Department of State also posts those:
 http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1008.html
 
 In addition to those advisories, you may want to check if any
 immunization is needed. E.g.:
 http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/south-africa.htm
 
 I haven't been there myself, so, I don't know anything beyond this.

I spent a few weeks in South Africa in 1998, so my experience may be out of
date. I stayed there for a few days with a friend who was getting married,
and her family who still lived there. The advice they gave to all their
guests coming in through Johannesburg airport was not to leave the terminal
building except with a pre-booked taxi driver, and not to go with one of the
taxi touts who cruised for business. 

While driving me around JB my friend's father adviced me not to rest my arm
on the window - he said I'd have my hand cut off by people trying to get my
watch.

One of their sons was burgled at gunpoint in his home some months
afterwards, and it was generally considered a miracle that he wasn't shot
dead, which was apparently the routine at the time.

So the impression I got was that Jo'burg was not a good place to wander
around naively.

We also spent some time in Cape Town which was much more relaxed and one of
the world's great cities, although even there there was a double-shooting on
the Waterfront one day - we weren't affected by it in any way though.

I have no idea what it's like there now, but I wouldn't hesitate to go back
- it's a wonderful country. You should get some advice from locals.

B


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Re: Travelling to South Africa ..

2012-07-14 Thread Patrick Nelson

As I live on the outskirts of Johannesburg I suppose I should comment.

As always in a large city there places to avoid and places that time of 
day make a big difference. Things to consider are not leaving items in a 
car in view, drive with windows closed and car locked to prevent smash 
and grab thefts happening. As with anywhere avoid dark places at night 
on your own. Transport from the airport I am not familier with as I live 
15 minutes away and normally fetch visitors. Most people are either 
fetched, hire a car or catch the gautrain (high speed rail link) if it 
goes where you need to be. As you did not say where in Johannesburg you 
are staying I can't get more specific.


Feel free to contact me off list for more info.

Patrick

 On 2012/07/14 09:07 AM, Bob W wrote:

Quoting Anand DHUPKARanand_dhupkar at yahoo.com:


Folks - need some input.

I am  frequent visitor but infrequent poster on pdml.


Looks like I am likely to travel to Johannesburg, South Africa, for

work - in a week or so.

Curious - any safety concerns that I need to be aware of ?



I've never been to South Africa so I don't have pe4sonal experience,
but the Australian Government issues 'Travel Advisories' for visitors
to many countries.  The advice for South Africa might help,

especially

the 'Safety and Security' tab.

http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/South_Africa


Other governments probably issue similar advisories.



US Department of State also posts those:
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1008.html

In addition to those advisories, you may want to check if any
immunization is needed. E.g.:
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/south-africa.htm

I haven't been there myself, so, I don't know anything beyond this.

I spent a few weeks in South Africa in 1998, so my experience may be out of
date. I stayed there for a few days with a friend who was getting married,
and her family who still lived there. The advice they gave to all their
guests coming in through Johannesburg airport was not to leave the terminal
building except with a pre-booked taxi driver, and not to go with one of the
taxi touts who cruised for business.

While driving me around JB my friend's father adviced me not to rest my arm
on the window - he said I'd have my hand cut off by people trying to get my
watch.

One of their sons was burgled at gunpoint in his home some months
afterwards, and it was generally considered a miracle that he wasn't shot
dead, which was apparently the routine at the time.

So the impression I got was that Jo'burg was not a good place to wander
around naively.

We also spent some time in Cape Town which was much more relaxed and one of
the world's great cities, although even there there was a double-shooting on
the Waterfront one day - we weren't affected by it in any way though.

I have no idea what it's like there now, but I wouldn't hesitate to go back
- it's a wonderful country. You should get some advice from locals.

B





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Re: Travelling to South Africa ..

2012-07-13 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Anand DHUPKAR anand_dhup...@yahoo.com:


Folks - need some input.

I am  frequent visitor but infrequent poster on pdml.

Looks like I am likely to travel to Johannesburg, South Africa, for  
work - in a week or so.


Curious - any safety concerns that I need to be aware of ?




I've never been to South Africa so I don't have pe4sonal experience,  
but the Australian Government issues 'Travel Advisories' for visitors  
to many countries.  The advice for South Africa might help, especially  
the 'Safety and Security' tab.


http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/South_Africa


Other governments probably issue similar advisories.




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http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/



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Re: Travelling to South Africa ..

2012-07-13 Thread Igor Roshchin
Fri Jul 13 17:55:43 EDT 2012
Brian Walters wrote:

 Quoting Anand DHUPKAR anand_dhupkar at yahoo.com:
 
  Folks - need some input.
 
  I am  frequent visitor but infrequent poster on pdml.
 
 Looks like I am likely to travel to Johannesburg, South Africa, for  
  work - in a week or so.
 
  Curious - any safety concerns that I need to be aware of ?
 
 
 
 I've never been to South Africa so I don't have pe4sonal experience,  
 but the Australian Government issues 'Travel Advisories' for visitors  
 to many countries.  The advice for South Africa might help, especially  
 the 'Safety and Security' tab.
 
 http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/South_Africa
 
 
 Other governments probably issue similar advisories.
 
 

US Department of State also posts those:
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1008.html

In addition to those advisories, you may want to check if any
immunization is needed. E.g.:
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/south-africa.htm

I haven't been there myself, so, I don't know anything beyond this.

Igor


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