Re: What does Photoshop CS4 get me that Elements doesn't?
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:46 AM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote: There are a lot of other new-to-me things in PSE7, so I've got more than enough learning to do before I even think about Lightroom. But at least I've got Scott Kelby's book to help me educate myself. I have several of his books and find them very helpful. I really like the step by step instructions with the adjustment window to see what he is doing. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What does Photoshop CS4 get me that Elements doesn't?
John, I got a great discount on Lightroom 2.4 thru one of the 'educator' vendors. You need a student or teacher ID, but my daughter-in-law teaches special ed. It's not as cheap as your PS Elements upgrade, but barely $100. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:46 AM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:46:20PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:28 PM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote: I'm in the process of switching over to a new machine. ?I was planning to upgrade both Lightroom and Photoshop Elements to the latest version, but Adobe just made the decision a little trickier - I can upgrade from Elements to CS4 for only $299. Assuming I stick with Lightroom (so the organizer part of CS4 isn't going to offer me a great deal, and I won't have any use for Camera Ra)) what are the additional features of CS4 that I might find useful? ?Or should I just stick with Elements V7? The biggest advantages are full implementations of curves, layers and colour management along with the full ACR implementation. -Adam Well, it turned out to be moot - my version of elements was just too old to be eligible for the upgrade (I was still using V3), so I took the cheap way out, and upgraded to Elements V7 for a mere $42! So far I've only played with it a little bit, but the first thing to strike me was just how much more control there was in ACR compared to the rudimentary implementations in PSE3 or Lightroom V1. It's going to take me a little while to learn how to use all the new features. Then I'm going to have to go back and reconvert some old images ... I assume that I'll get at least as much control in Lightroom V2; that's going to get installed on the new machine, too. But that will almost certainly have to wait until I get back from the UK. There are a lot of other new-to-me things in PSE7, so I've got more than enough learning to do before I even think about Lightroom. But at least I've got Scott Kelby's book to help me educate myself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: What does Photoshop CS4 get me that Elements doesn't?
Another day older and deeper in debt . . . I use PSE 7. I has CS3, but it just had too many options for my needs. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:46 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: What does Photoshop CS4 get me that Elements doesn't? On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:46:20PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:28 PM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote: I'm in the process of switching over to a new machine. ?I was planning to upgrade both Lightroom and Photoshop Elements to the latest version, but Adobe just made the decision a little trickier - I can upgrade from Elements to CS4 for only $299. Assuming I stick with Lightroom (so the organizer part of CS4 isn't going to offer me a great deal, and I won't have any use for Camera Ra)) what are the additional features of CS4 that I might find useful? ?Or should I just stick with Elements V7? The biggest advantages are full implementations of curves, layers and colour management along with the full ACR implementation. -Adam Well, it turned out to be moot - my version of elements was just too old to be eligible for the upgrade (I was still using V3), so I took the cheap way out, and upgraded to Elements V7 for a mere $42! So far I've only played with it a little bit, but the first thing to strike me was just how much more control there was in ACR compared to the rudimentary implementations in PSE3 or Lightroom V1. It's going to take me a little while to learn how to use all the new features. Then I'm going to have to go back and reconvert some old images ... I assume that I'll get at least as much control in Lightroom V2; that's going to get installed on the new machine, too. But that will almost certainly have to wait until I get back from the UK. There are a lot of other new-to-me things in PSE7, so I've got more than enough learning to do before I even think about Lightroom. But at least I've got Scott Kelby's book to help me educate myself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What does Photoshop CS4 get me that Elements doesn't?
I've already got LR1, so the upgrade to LR2 is only $95 from Amazon On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 08:08:07AM -0500, Bob Sullivan wrote: John, I got a great discount on Lightroom 2.4 thru one of the 'educator' vendors. You need a student or teacher ID, but my daughter-in-law teaches special ed. It's not as cheap as your PS Elements upgrade, but barely $100. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:46 AM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:46:20PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:28 PM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote: I'm in the process of switching over to a new machine. ?I was planning to upgrade both Lightroom and Photoshop Elements to the latest version, but Adobe just made the decision a little trickier - I can upgrade from Elements to CS4 for only $299. Assuming I stick with Lightroom (so the organizer part of CS4 isn't going to offer me a great deal, and I won't have any use for Camera Ra)) what are the additional features of CS4 that I might find useful? ?Or should I just stick with Elements V7? The biggest advantages are full implementations of curves, layers and colour management along with the full ACR implementation. -Adam Well, it turned out to be moot - my version of elements was just too old to be eligible for the upgrade (I was still using V3), so I took the cheap way out, and upgraded to Elements V7 for a mere $42! So far I've only played with it a little bit, but the first thing to strike me was just how much more control there was in ACR compared to the rudimentary implementations in PSE3 or Lightroom V1. ?It's going to take me a little while to learn how to use all the new features. Then I'm going to have to go back and reconvert some old images ... I assume that I'll get at least as much control in Lightroom V2; that's going to get installed on the new machine, too. ?But that will almost certainly have to wait until I get back from the UK. There are a lot of other new-to-me things in PSE7, so I've got more than enough learning to do before I even think about Lightroom. But at least I've got Scott Kelby's book to help me educate myself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What does Photoshop CS4 get me that Elements doesn't?
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:46:20PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:28 PM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote: I'm in the process of switching over to a new machine. ?I was planning to upgrade both Lightroom and Photoshop Elements to the latest version, but Adobe just made the decision a little trickier - I can upgrade from Elements to CS4 for only $299. Assuming I stick with Lightroom (so the organizer part of CS4 isn't going to offer me a great deal, and I won't have any use for Camera Ra)) what are the additional features of CS4 that I might find useful? ?Or should I just stick with Elements V7? The biggest advantages are full implementations of curves, layers and colour management along with the full ACR implementation. -Adam Well, it turned out to be moot - my version of elements was just too old to be eligible for the upgrade (I was still using V3), so I took the cheap way out, and upgraded to Elements V7 for a mere $42! So far I've only played with it a little bit, but the first thing to strike me was just how much more control there was in ACR compared to the rudimentary implementations in PSE3 or Lightroom V1. It's going to take me a little while to learn how to use all the new features. Then I'm going to have to go back and reconvert some old images ... I assume that I'll get at least as much control in Lightroom V2; that's going to get installed on the new machine, too. But that will almost certainly have to wait until I get back from the UK. There are a lot of other new-to-me things in PSE7, so I've got more than enough learning to do before I even think about Lightroom. But at least I've got Scott Kelby's book to help me educate myself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What does Photoshop CS4 get me that Elements doesn't?
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:28 PM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote: I'm in the process of switching over to a new machine. I was planning to upgrade both Lightroom and Photoshop Elements to the latest version, but Adobe just made the decision a little trickier - I can upgrade from Elements to CS4 for only $299. Assuming I stick with Lightroom (so the organizer part of CS4 isn't going to offer me a great deal, and I won't have any use for Camera Ra)) what are the additional features of CS4 that I might find useful? Or should I just stick with Elements V7? The biggest advantages are full implementations of curves, layers and colour management along with the full ACR implementation. -Adam -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
