Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-08 Thread David Savage
At 10:44 AM 9/10/2006, Joseph Tainter  wrote:
>My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera
>older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus with
>their camera.

Is that fact or rumor?

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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-08 Thread Adam Maas
David Savage wrote:
> At 10:44 AM 9/10/2006, Joseph Tainter  wrote:
>> My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera
>> older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus with
>> their camera.
> 
> Is that fact or rumor?
> 
> Dave 
> 

Strong Rumour. Unless Pentax adds a secondary drive mechanism, the new 
SSM lenses will not AF on bodies earlier than the K10D.

Of course, the new 300 is a D-FA*, not a DA*, so it may not be SSM. But 
I can't see why it wouldn't be.

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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-08 Thread Vic MacBournie
Do you have a link for that?

On 8-Oct-06, at 10:44 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:

> Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on
> ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record???
> Vic
>
> -
>
> There's a thread on it over at dpreview.
>
> My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera
> older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus 
> with
> their camera.
>
> Joe
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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-08 Thread Doug Franklin
Vic MacBournie wrote:
> Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on 
> ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record???

Egads!  That's like four times what I paid for mine three or four years ago.

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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
Paid less than $800 USD for mine new several years ago !
A great lens IMHO even w/o the tripod mount.

Kenneth Waller


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Subject: 300*F4.5


> Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on 
> ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record???
> Vic
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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-08 Thread P. J. Alling
It's a rumor but an informed one.

David Savage wrote:

>At 10:44 AM 9/10/2006, Joseph Tainter  wrote:
>  
>
>>My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera
>>older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus with
>>their camera.
>>
>>
>
>Is that fact or rumor?
>
>Dave 
>
>
>  
>


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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-08 Thread Doug Franklin
Kenneth Waller wrote:
> Paid less than $800 USD for mine new several years ago !
> A great lens IMHO even w/o the tripod mount.

I assumed from the subject line that it was the SMC-P F* version, which
has the tripod mount.  I love that tripod mount, even when I'm hand
holding the lens, which is almost always.  Once in a great while, I'll
put it on the monopod.

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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
> I assumed from the subject line that it was the SMC-P F* version, which
> has the tripod mount.  

Obviously I assumed it was the FA.
If it was the SMC-P F*, it makes me wonder what the FA is worth?

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: 300*F4.5


> Kenneth Waller wrote:
>> Paid less than $800 USD for mine new several years ago !
>> A great lens IMHO even w/o the tripod mount.
> 
> I assumed from the subject line that it was the SMC-P F* version, which
> has the tripod mount.  I love that tripod mount, even when I'm hand
> holding the lens, which is almost always.  Once in a great while, I'll
> put it on the monopod.
> 
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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-08 Thread Alan Chan
> Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on
> ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record???
> Vic

Once in awhile price surged, but I think it's peaked for now, and I doubt it
will reach that high again. Just weeks ago it was $7xx. Sometimes you just
need the right buyer, but that doesn't happen everyday.

Regards,
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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-08 Thread David S.
Vic MacBournie wrote:
> Do you have a link for that?
> 
> On 8-Oct-06, at 10:44 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
> 
> 
>>Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on
>>ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record???
>>Vic
>>
>>-
>>
>>There's a thread on it over at dpreview.
>>
>>My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera
>>older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus 
>>with
>>their camera.
>>
>>Joe
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280033701440

I saw info afout this on another forum yesterday.  I bought one of 
these, also in near mint condition about 6 years ago through ebay for 
about 1/2 this price.

These kind of prices makes us have to rethink insurance values for some 
of our lenses.



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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-08 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:50:39AM +0800, David Savage wrote:
> At 10:44 AM 9/10/2006, Joseph Tainter  wrote:
> >My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera
> >older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus with
> >their camera.
> 
> Is that fact or rumor?

Just rumour, at present.  We won't know for sure until we see
a DA* lens on the shelves (probably around March next year).

Basically there seem to be two camps:  "Pentax already screwed
us once by taking away aperture rings, so why wouldn't they do
it again?", and "Pentax have the best backwards compatibility
story of any major manufacturer, so are they really likely to
release lenses that don't work with a camera under a year old?"


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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-09 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 09.10.2006, at 07:32 , John Francis wrote:

> Just rumour, at present.  We won't know for sure until we see
> a DA* lens on the shelves (probably around March next year).
It is possible we will know that by the end of this year when more  
detailed info about new lenses is expected.

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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-09 Thread Peter Jordan
Two have sold on ebay UK in the past two years, both for less than GBP450 
(say USD 850).

Peter

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Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: 300*F4.5


> Vic MacBournie wrote:
>> Do you have a link for that?
>>
>> On 8-Oct-06, at 10:44 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on
>>>ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record???
>>>Vic
>>>
>>>-
>>>
>>>There's a thread on it over at dpreview.
>>>
>>>My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera
>>>older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus
>>>with
>>>their camera.
>>>
>>>Joe
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>>
>>
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280033701440
>
> I saw info afout this on another forum yesterday.  I bought one of
> these, also in near mint condition about 6 years ago through ebay for
> about 1/2 this price.
>
> These kind of prices makes us have to rethink insurance values for some
> of our lenses.
>
>
>
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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-09 Thread P. J. Alling
So used lenses are selling for what 99% of their street price new?  Ok, 
so in the UK the new price would be £999.00.  So for you guys it's just 
a bargain.

Peter Jordan wrote:

>Two have sold on ebay UK in the past two years, both for less than GBP450 
>(say USD 850).
>
>Peter
>
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>Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:33 AM
>Subject: Re: 300*F4.5
>
>
>  
>
>>Vic MacBournie wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Do you have a link for that?
>>>
>>>On 8-Oct-06, at 10:44 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on
>>>>ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record???
>>>>Vic
>>>>
>>>>-
>>>>
>>>>There's a thread on it over at dpreview.
>>>>
>>>>My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera
>>>>older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus
>>>>with
>>>>their camera.
>>>>
>>>>Joe
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>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280033701440
>>
>>I saw info afout this on another forum yesterday.  I bought one of
>>these, also in near mint condition about 6 years ago through ebay for
>>about 1/2 this price.
>>
>>These kind of prices makes us have to rethink insurance values for some
>>of our lenses.
>>
>>
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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-09 Thread Peter Jordan
What I can't understand is that while AF 35mm lenses are heading up in 
price, 645 lenses are vanishing through the floor. You can pick up some 
fantastic bargains now, and when the 645D hits the street, prices will rise 
again. In the meantime, you get that thrill of looking at 6x4.5 
transparencies which make 35mm or digital seem very inferior in comparison.

Peter


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So used lenses are selling for what 99% of their street price new?  Ok,
so in the UK the new price would be £999.00.  So for you guys it's just
a bargain.

Peter Jordan wrote:

>Two have sold on ebay UK in the past two years, both for less than GBP450
>(say USD 850).
>
>Peter
>
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>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:33 AM
>Subject: Re: 300*F4.5
>
>
>
>
>>Vic MacBournie wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Do you have a link for that?
>>>
>>>On 8-Oct-06, at 10:44 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on
>>>>ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record???
>>>>Vic
>>>>
>>>>-
>>>>
>>>>There's a thread on it over at dpreview.
>>>>
>>>>My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera
>>>>older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus
>>>>with
>>>>their camera.
>>>>
>>>>Joe
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>>>
>>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280033701440
>>
>>I saw info afout this on another forum yesterday.  I bought one of
>>these, also in near mint condition about 6 years ago through ebay for
>>about 1/2 this price.
>>
>>These kind of prices makes us have to rethink insurance values for some
>>of our lenses.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-09 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, Joseph Tainter wrote:

> So I would not be surprised if Pentax
> shafts us again, this time by unshafting us.

I can visualise this: knackered from Hogmanay I open my mail...

...and there it is...

Kostas :-)

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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-09 Thread David Mann
On Oct 9, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

> Obviously I assumed it was the FA.
> If it was the SMC-P F*, it makes me wonder what the FA is worth?

IIRC the F* is generally more desirable than the FA* because of the  
tripod mount.  The optics are identical.

I have an F* and the AF/MF switching is a bit annoying.  I much  
prefer FA* lenses in that regard.

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Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-09 Thread David Mann
On Oct 9, 2006, at 6:32 PM, John Francis wrote:

> Basically there seem to be two camps:  "Pentax already screwed
> us once by taking away aperture rings, so why wouldn't they do
> it again?", and "Pentax have the best backwards compatibility
> story of any major manufacturer, so are they really likely to
> release lenses that don't work with a camera under a year old?"

To misquote a Dilbert cartoon:
"Our new camera has only one button, and they press it before it  
leaves the factory."

- Dave



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