Re: 300*F4.5
At 10:44 AM 9/10/2006, Joseph Tainter wrote: >My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera >older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus with >their camera. Is that fact or rumor? Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
David Savage wrote: > At 10:44 AM 9/10/2006, Joseph Tainter wrote: >> My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera >> older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus with >> their camera. > > Is that fact or rumor? > > Dave > Strong Rumour. Unless Pentax adds a secondary drive mechanism, the new SSM lenses will not AF on bodies earlier than the K10D. Of course, the new 300 is a D-FA*, not a DA*, so it may not be SSM. But I can't see why it wouldn't be. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
Do you have a link for that? On 8-Oct-06, at 10:44 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: > Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on > ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record??? > Vic > > - > > There's a thread on it over at dpreview. > > My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera > older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus > with > their camera. > > Joe > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
Vic MacBournie wrote: > Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on > ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record??? Egads! That's like four times what I paid for mine three or four years ago. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
Paid less than $800 USD for mine new several years ago ! A great lens IMHO even w/o the tripod mount. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Vic MacBournie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 300*F4.5 > Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on > ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record??? > Vic > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
It's a rumor but an informed one. David Savage wrote: >At 10:44 AM 9/10/2006, Joseph Tainter wrote: > > >>My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera >>older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus with >>their camera. >> >> > >Is that fact or rumor? > >Dave > > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
Kenneth Waller wrote: > Paid less than $800 USD for mine new several years ago ! > A great lens IMHO even w/o the tripod mount. I assumed from the subject line that it was the SMC-P F* version, which has the tripod mount. I love that tripod mount, even when I'm hand holding the lens, which is almost always. Once in a great while, I'll put it on the monopod. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
> I assumed from the subject line that it was the SMC-P F* version, which > has the tripod mount. Obviously I assumed it was the FA. If it was the SMC-P F*, it makes me wonder what the FA is worth? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 300*F4.5 > Kenneth Waller wrote: >> Paid less than $800 USD for mine new several years ago ! >> A great lens IMHO even w/o the tripod mount. > > I assumed from the subject line that it was the SMC-P F* version, which > has the tripod mount. I love that tripod mount, even when I'm hand > holding the lens, which is almost always. Once in a great while, I'll > put it on the monopod. > > -- > Thanks, > DougF (KG4LMZ) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
> Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on > ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record??? > Vic Once in awhile price surged, but I think it's peaked for now, and I doubt it will reach that high again. Just weeks ago it was $7xx. Sometimes you just need the right buyer, but that doesn't happen everyday. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
Vic MacBournie wrote: > Do you have a link for that? > > On 8-Oct-06, at 10:44 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: > > >>Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on >>ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record??? >>Vic >> >>- >> >>There's a thread on it over at dpreview. >> >>My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera >>older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus >>with >>their camera. >> >>Joe >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280033701440 I saw info afout this on another forum yesterday. I bought one of these, also in near mint condition about 6 years ago through ebay for about 1/2 this price. These kind of prices makes us have to rethink insurance values for some of our lenses. -- David S. Nature and wildlife photography http://www.sheppardphotos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:50:39AM +0800, David Savage wrote: > At 10:44 AM 9/10/2006, Joseph Tainter wrote: > >My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera > >older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus with > >their camera. > > Is that fact or rumor? Just rumour, at present. We won't know for sure until we see a DA* lens on the shelves (probably around March next year). Basically there seem to be two camps: "Pentax already screwed us once by taking away aperture rings, so why wouldn't they do it again?", and "Pentax have the best backwards compatibility story of any major manufacturer, so are they really likely to release lenses that don't work with a camera under a year old?" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
On 09.10.2006, at 07:32 , John Francis wrote: > Just rumour, at present. We won't know for sure until we see > a DA* lens on the shelves (probably around March next year). It is possible we will know that by the end of this year when more detailed info about new lenses is expected. Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
Two have sold on ebay UK in the past two years, both for less than GBP450 (say USD 850). Peter - Original Message - From: "David S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:33 AM Subject: Re: 300*F4.5 > Vic MacBournie wrote: >> Do you have a link for that? >> >> On 8-Oct-06, at 10:44 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: >> >> >>>Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on >>>ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record??? >>>Vic >>> >>>- >>> >>>There's a thread on it over at dpreview. >>> >>>My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera >>>older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus >>>with >>>their camera. >>> >>>Joe >>> >>>-- >>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>PDML@pdml.net >>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >> >> >> > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280033701440 > > I saw info afout this on another forum yesterday. I bought one of > these, also in near mint condition about 6 years ago through ebay for > about 1/2 this price. > > These kind of prices makes us have to rethink insurance values for some > of our lenses. > > > > -- > David S. > Nature and wildlife photography http://www.sheppardphotos.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
So used lenses are selling for what 99% of their street price new? Ok, so in the UK the new price would be £999.00. So for you guys it's just a bargain. Peter Jordan wrote: >Two have sold on ebay UK in the past two years, both for less than GBP450 >(say USD 850). > >Peter > >- Original Message - >From: "David S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:33 AM >Subject: Re: 300*F4.5 > > > > >>Vic MacBournie wrote: >> >> >>>Do you have a link for that? >>> >>>On 8-Oct-06, at 10:44 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on >>>>ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record??? >>>>Vic >>>> >>>>- >>>> >>>>There's a thread on it over at dpreview. >>>> >>>>My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera >>>>older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus >>>>with >>>>their camera. >>>> >>>>Joe >>>> >>>>-- >>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>PDML@pdml.net >>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280033701440 >> >>I saw info afout this on another forum yesterday. I bought one of >>these, also in near mint condition about 6 years ago through ebay for >>about 1/2 this price. >> >>These kind of prices makes us have to rethink insurance values for some >>of our lenses. >> >> >> >>-- >>David S. >>Nature and wildlife photography http://www.sheppardphotos.com >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> > > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
What I can't understand is that while AF 35mm lenses are heading up in price, 645 lenses are vanishing through the floor. You can pick up some fantastic bargains now, and when the 645D hits the street, prices will rise again. In the meantime, you get that thrill of looking at 6x4.5 transparencies which make 35mm or digital seem very inferior in comparison. Peter - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: Re: 300*F4.5 So used lenses are selling for what 99% of their street price new? Ok, so in the UK the new price would be £999.00. So for you guys it's just a bargain. Peter Jordan wrote: >Two have sold on ebay UK in the past two years, both for less than GBP450 >(say USD 850). > >Peter > >- Original Message - >From: "David S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:33 AM >Subject: Re: 300*F4.5 > > > > >>Vic MacBournie wrote: >> >> >>>Do you have a link for that? >>> >>>On 8-Oct-06, at 10:44 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Did anyone catch the closing price on the one that just finished on >>>>ebay. $1,600+. Wow that's some price. Must be a record??? >>>>Vic >>>> >>>>- >>>> >>>>There's a thread on it over at dpreview. >>>> >>>>My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera >>>>older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus >>>>with >>>>their camera. >>>> >>>>Joe >>>> >>>>-- >>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>PDML@pdml.net >>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280033701440 >> >>I saw info afout this on another forum yesterday. I bought one of >>these, also in near mint condition about 6 years ago through ebay for >>about 1/2 this price. >> >>These kind of prices makes us have to rethink insurance values for some >>of our lenses. >> >> >> >>-- >>David S. >>Nature and wildlife photography http://www.sheppardphotos.com >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> > > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, Joseph Tainter wrote: > So I would not be surprised if Pentax > shafts us again, this time by unshafting us. I can visualise this: knackered from Hogmanay I open my mail... ...and there it is... Kostas :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
On Oct 9, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: > Obviously I assumed it was the FA. > If it was the SMC-P F*, it makes me wonder what the FA is worth? IIRC the F* is generally more desirable than the FA* because of the tripod mount. The optics are identical. I have an F* and the AF/MF switching is a bit annoying. I much prefer FA* lenses in that regard. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 300*F4.5
On Oct 9, 2006, at 6:32 PM, John Francis wrote: > Basically there seem to be two camps: "Pentax already screwed > us once by taking away aperture rings, so why wouldn't they do > it again?", and "Pentax have the best backwards compatibility > story of any major manufacturer, so are they really likely to > release lenses that don't work with a camera under a year old?" To misquote a Dilbert cartoon: "Our new camera has only one button, and they press it before it leaves the factory." - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net