Re: Birding pictures in your back yard.

2007-05-26 Thread David J Brooks
Our oldest cat, Norman, doe all of the mousing etc, but will leave
both the mothe grey squirrel that hangs aound the yard. She is the one
that was a paw last year that will feed out of our hand.

Dave

On 5/25/07, Dave Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Speaking of squirrels... Our dog has great fun chasing the squirrels.
 He's normally in the house, but when we see them at the feeder, a
 whisper to the dog, and he's ready at the door. Open it a crack and
 he's bolted after the squirrel. The squirrel usually makes it up the
 nearest tree and chatters away at him.

 On occasion, he's at the feeder before the squirrel sees anything and
 then it's a really interesting dance between the 2.

 most amusing. :)

 I've been thinking about setting up a place for photographing the
 birds for a while, I don't like bird feeder shots.  My wife likes the
 feeder nice  close to the house, but that's not conducive to getting
 the shots I want.

 On 5/24/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  The slingshot is at the ready by the back door for the frigging
  squirrels.  My accuracy has improved in a short period (damn squirrel
  proof bird feeders don't work!).  It's one shot, one kill these days
  (no actual killing, just a good scare).
 
  



 --
 http://www.pbase.com/davekennedy
 Ottawa Valley, Ontario, Canada
 Go Sens Go!

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net



-- 
Equine Photography
www.caughtinmotion.com
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
Ontario Canada

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net


Re: Birding pictures in your back yard.

2007-05-25 Thread Dave Kennedy
Speaking of squirrels... Our dog has great fun chasing the squirrels.
He's normally in the house, but when we see them at the feeder, a
whisper to the dog, and he's ready at the door. Open it a crack and
he's bolted after the squirrel. The squirrel usually makes it up the
nearest tree and chatters away at him.

On occasion, he's at the feeder before the squirrel sees anything and
then it's a really interesting dance between the 2.

most amusing. :)

I've been thinking about setting up a place for photographing the
birds for a while, I don't like bird feeder shots.  My wife likes the
feeder nice  close to the house, but that's not conducive to getting
the shots I want.

On 5/24/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 The slingshot is at the ready by the back door for the frigging
 squirrels.  My accuracy has improved in a short period (damn squirrel
 proof bird feeders don't work!).  It's one shot, one kill these days
 (no actual killing, just a good scare).

 



-- 
http://www.pbase.com/davekennedy
Ottawa Valley, Ontario, Canada
Go Sens Go!

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net


Re: Birding pictures in your back yard.

2007-05-25 Thread David Savage
My tip: find a Bird Whisperer and follow them around the backyard:

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_001/pages/IMGP2131.html

;-)

Cheers,

Dave

On 5/25/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For those that do a lot of birds.

 I have a rather big yard, compared to modern subdivision lots, about a
 tad over a 1/4 acre. Lots of big maple trees along the fences.

 We have birds come to the feeders in front, but if i try and get them
 there, i have really bad backdrops, posts, door frames etc.

 Would birds eventually notice if i move a few feeders to the back into
 the trees. I moved some the other day, but i don't see any activity.
 This would lead for what should be better shots, but maybe they are
 stuck in their ways.


 We have various coloured finches and had a Cardinal, but he's not been
 around for a while, and the Blue Jay is back. Lots of grey and
 black/red squirrels.

 I sit out back a lot, and wait, but they seem to avoid me. Should i
 'camo up or is just sitting still enough.

 BTW, this is how i get most of my bird shots.

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3755627

 Dave

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net


Re: Birding pictures in your back yard.

2007-05-24 Thread Christian
David J Brooks wrote:
 For those that do a lot of birds.

you rang? :-)

 
 I have a rather big yard, compared to modern subdivision lots, about a
 tad over a 1/4 acre. Lots of big maple trees along the fences.
 
 We have birds come to the feeders in front, but if i try and get them
 there, i have really bad backdrops, posts, door frames etc.

shooting birds at home can be a challenge.  Creating perches with better 
backgrounds or creating a background might help.  Maybe hang a greenish 
painted muslin or something.  It's gonna be out of focus anyway and I've 
heard of people getting good results.

 
 Would birds eventually notice if i move a few feeders to the back into
 the trees. I moved some the other day, but i don't see any activity.
 This would lead for what should be better shots, but maybe they are
 stuck in their ways.

The term bird-brained wasn't invented by accident.  give them time, 
they'll find the feeders.  Try moving them slowly, especially if there 
are object between the current location and the desired location.

 We have various coloured finches and had a Cardinal, but he's not been
 around for a while, and the Blue Jay is back. Lots of grey and
 black/red squirrels.

what are you feeding them?  My yard is tiny.  I live in a small 
townhouse and my fenced yard is only like 20 x20 ft.  I have my feeders 
set up on a double shepherd's crook hanger outside the back fence and 
manage to cram in food and feeders for various types of birds.  I have a 
suet log for woodpeckers, one feeder for sunflowers (cardinals and other 
big-beaked birds), peanuts for the jays and thistle seed in a mesh tube 
feeder for the gold finches.  And a suet cage for other insect eating 
birds like catbirds and, unfortunately, starlings.

so that I can get the most natural looking pictures, I've set up old 
branches and twigs as perches near the feeders.  The idea is that the 
birds will land there first, then go eat, then maybe hop back to the 
perch.  I also have a birdbath because all that eating is gonna make you 
thirsty!

The view off my back deck has the feeders to the left, the bird bath on 
the inside of the fence and the perches to the right of the feeders. 
There is a grassy slope behind the perches which gives me a nice 
background.  I'm only 25 feet or so to the farthest perch.  And the 
birds don't seem to mind me standing out there in full view.

The slingshot is at the ready by the back door for the frigging 
squirrels.  My accuracy has improved in a short period (damn squirrel 
proof bird feeders don't work!).  It's one shot, one kill these days 
(no actual killing, just a good scare).

 
 I sit out back a lot, and wait, but they seem to avoid me. Should i
 'camo up or is just sitting still enough.

You just need to habituate them to seeing you.  You can always use a 
blind (little tent-style blinds would work the best in a yard).
 
 BTW, this is how i get most of my bird shots.
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3755627

Nice!



-- 

Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net


Re: Birding pictures in your back yard.

2007-05-24 Thread David J Brooks
On 5/24/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David J Brooks wrote:
  For those that do a lot of birds.

 you rang? :-)

 
  I have a rather big yard, compared to modern subdivision lots, about a
  tad over a 1/4 acre. Lots of big maple trees along the fences.
 
  We have birds come to the feeders in front, but if i try and get them
  there, i have really bad backdrops, posts, door frames etc.

 shooting birds at home can be a challenge.  Creating perches with better
 backgrounds or creating a background might help.  Maybe hang a greenish
 painted muslin or something.  It's gonna be out of focus anyway and I've
 heard of people getting good results.

 
  Would birds eventually notice if i move a few feeders to the back into
  the trees. I moved some the other day, but i don't see any activity.
  This would lead for what should be better shots, but maybe they are
  stuck in their ways.

 The term bird-brained wasn't invented by accident.  give them time,
 they'll find the feeders.  Try moving them slowly, especially if there
 are object between the current location and the desired location.

  We have various coloured finches and had a Cardinal, but he's not been
  around for a while, and the Blue Jay is back. Lots of grey and
  black/red squirrels.

 what are you feeding them?  My yard is tiny.  I live in a small
 townhouse and my fenced yard is only like 20 x20 ft.  I have my feeders
 set up on a double shepherd's crook hanger outside the back fence and
 manage to cram in food and feeders for various types of birds.  I have a
 suet log for woodpeckers, one feeder for sunflowers (cardinals and other
 big-beaked birds), peanuts for the jays and thistle seed in a mesh tube
 feeder for the gold finches.  And a suet cage for other insect eating
 birds like catbirds and, unfortunately, starlings.

I have about 150' from the deck to the fence. Liz buys the feed, but
its suet and black sunflower and some white looking stuff.

 so that I can get the most natural looking pictures, I've set up old
 branches and twigs as perches near the feeders.  The idea is that the
 birds will land there first, then go eat, then maybe hop back to the
 perch.  I also have a birdbath because all that eating is gonna make you
 thirsty!

I have lots of small branches and limbs from wind storm at the back i
could use then.

 The view off my back deck has the feeders to the left, the bird bath on
 the inside of the fence and the perches to the right of the feeders.
 There is a grassy slope behind the perches which gives me a nice
 background.  I'm only 25 feet or so to the farthest perch.  And the
 birds don't seem to mind me standing out there in full view.

 The slingshot is at the ready by the back door for the frigging
 squirrels.  My accuracy has improved in a short period (damn squirrel
 proof bird feeders don't work!).  It's one shot, one kill these days
 (no actual killing, just a good scare).

The last suirrel resistnat feeder was broken with in a 1/2 hour. Good
thing Liz works at a pet store.

 
  I sit out back a lot, and wait, but they seem to avoid me. Should i
  'camo up or is just sitting still enough.

 You just need to habituate them to seeing you.  You can always use a
 blind (little tent-style blinds would work the best in a yard).
 
  BTW, this is how i get most of my bird shots.
 
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3755627

 Nice!

Thanks

Dave



 --

 Christian
 http://photography.skofteland.net

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net



-- 
Equine Photography
www.caughtinmotion.com
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
Ontario Canada

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net


Re: Birding pictures in your back yard.

2007-05-24 Thread Kenneth Waller
You might also try drilling several small holes partially into a fallen 
branch, filling the holes with peanut butter  hanging the branch in front 
of more acceptable background.

Various foods, as Christian pointed out will definitely help in getting a 
variety of birds.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Birding pictures in your back yard.


 David J Brooks wrote:
 For those that do a lot of birds.

 you rang? :-)


 I have a rather big yard, compared to modern subdivision lots, about a
 tad over a 1/4 acre. Lots of big maple trees along the fences.

 We have birds come to the feeders in front, but if i try and get them
 there, i have really bad backdrops, posts, door frames etc.

 shooting birds at home can be a challenge.  Creating perches with better
 backgrounds or creating a background might help.  Maybe hang a greenish
 painted muslin or something.  It's gonna be out of focus anyway and I've
 heard of people getting good results.


 Would birds eventually notice if i move a few feeders to the back into
 the trees. I moved some the other day, but i don't see any activity.
 This would lead for what should be better shots, but maybe they are
 stuck in their ways.

 The term bird-brained wasn't invented by accident.  give them time,
 they'll find the feeders.  Try moving them slowly, especially if there
 are object between the current location and the desired location.

 We have various coloured finches and had a Cardinal, but he's not been
 around for a while, and the Blue Jay is back. Lots of grey and
 black/red squirrels.

 what are you feeding them?  My yard is tiny.  I live in a small
 townhouse and my fenced yard is only like 20 x20 ft.  I have my feeders
 set up on a double shepherd's crook hanger outside the back fence and
 manage to cram in food and feeders for various types of birds.  I have a
 suet log for woodpeckers, one feeder for sunflowers (cardinals and other
 big-beaked birds), peanuts for the jays and thistle seed in a mesh tube
 feeder for the gold finches.  And a suet cage for other insect eating
 birds like catbirds and, unfortunately, starlings.

 so that I can get the most natural looking pictures, I've set up old
 branches and twigs as perches near the feeders.  The idea is that the
 birds will land there first, then go eat, then maybe hop back to the
 perch.  I also have a birdbath because all that eating is gonna make you
 thirsty!

 The view off my back deck has the feeders to the left, the bird bath on
 the inside of the fence and the perches to the right of the feeders.
 There is a grassy slope behind the perches which gives me a nice
 background.  I'm only 25 feet or so to the farthest perch.  And the
 birds don't seem to mind me standing out there in full view.

 The slingshot is at the ready by the back door for the frigging
 squirrels.  My accuracy has improved in a short period (damn squirrel
 proof bird feeders don't work!).  It's one shot, one kill these days
 (no actual killing, just a good scare).


 I sit out back a lot, and wait, but they seem to avoid me. Should i
 'camo up or is just sitting still enough.

 You just need to habituate them to seeing you.  You can always use a
 blind (little tent-style blinds would work the best in a yard).

 BTW, this is how i get most of my bird shots.

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3755627

 Nice!



 -- 

 Christian
 http://photography.skofteland.net


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net


Re: Birding pictures in your back yard.

2007-05-24 Thread David J Brooks
On 5/24/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You might also try drilling several small holes partially into a fallen
 branch, filling the holes with peanut butter  hanging the branch in front
 of more acceptable background.

Never thought of that.

Thanks

Dave

 Various foods, as Christian pointed out will definitely help in getting a
 variety of birds.

 Kenneth Waller

 - Original Message -
 From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Birding pictures in your back yard.


  David J Brooks wrote:
  For those that do a lot of birds.
 
  you rang? :-)
 
 
  I have a rather big yard, compared to modern subdivision lots, about a
  tad over a 1/4 acre. Lots of big maple trees along the fences.
 
  We have birds come to the feeders in front, but if i try and get them
  there, i have really bad backdrops, posts, door frames etc.
 
  shooting birds at home can be a challenge.  Creating perches with better
  backgrounds or creating a background might help.  Maybe hang a greenish
  painted muslin or something.  It's gonna be out of focus anyway and I've
  heard of people getting good results.
 
 
  Would birds eventually notice if i move a few feeders to the back into
  the trees. I moved some the other day, but i don't see any activity.
  This would lead for what should be better shots, but maybe they are
  stuck in their ways.
 
  The term bird-brained wasn't invented by accident.  give them time,
  they'll find the feeders.  Try moving them slowly, especially if there
  are object between the current location and the desired location.
 
  We have various coloured finches and had a Cardinal, but he's not been
  around for a while, and the Blue Jay is back. Lots of grey and
  black/red squirrels.
 
  what are you feeding them?  My yard is tiny.  I live in a small
  townhouse and my fenced yard is only like 20 x20 ft.  I have my feeders
  set up on a double shepherd's crook hanger outside the back fence and
  manage to cram in food and feeders for various types of birds.  I have a
  suet log for woodpeckers, one feeder for sunflowers (cardinals and other
  big-beaked birds), peanuts for the jays and thistle seed in a mesh tube
  feeder for the gold finches.  And a suet cage for other insect eating
  birds like catbirds and, unfortunately, starlings.
 
  so that I can get the most natural looking pictures, I've set up old
  branches and twigs as perches near the feeders.  The idea is that the
  birds will land there first, then go eat, then maybe hop back to the
  perch.  I also have a birdbath because all that eating is gonna make you
  thirsty!
 
  The view off my back deck has the feeders to the left, the bird bath on
  the inside of the fence and the perches to the right of the feeders.
  There is a grassy slope behind the perches which gives me a nice
  background.  I'm only 25 feet or so to the farthest perch.  And the
  birds don't seem to mind me standing out there in full view.
 
  The slingshot is at the ready by the back door for the frigging
  squirrels.  My accuracy has improved in a short period (damn squirrel
  proof bird feeders don't work!).  It's one shot, one kill these days
  (no actual killing, just a good scare).
 
 
  I sit out back a lot, and wait, but they seem to avoid me. Should i
  'camo up or is just sitting still enough.
 
  You just need to habituate them to seeing you.  You can always use a
  blind (little tent-style blinds would work the best in a yard).
 
  BTW, this is how i get most of my bird shots.
 
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3755627
 
  Nice!
 
 
 
  --
 
  Christian
  http://photography.skofteland.net


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net



-- 
Equine Photography
www.caughtinmotion.com
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
Ontario Canada

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net