Re: Color Calibration

2003-01-19 Thread David A. Mann
Rob Studdert wrote:

> You'll find that the files probably aren't interchangeable, each batch
> 35mm or otherwise has it's own specific cal files.

Yes, someone else pointed that out earlier.

The reference files are on Kodak's FTP site at the following address:
ftp://ftp.kodak.com/gastds/q60data/

This address was provided on the info sheet which came with the slide.  I 
seem to recall finding the files after searching Kodak's site (in other 
words, like a true engineer I didn't read the info sheet).

The "Index" file explains the file naming convention.  According to this, 
mine is an Ektachrome 35mm target manufactured in August 2000.

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/





Re: Color Calibration steps

2003-01-15 Thread Bruce Dayton
David,

Thanks for the tip.  I guess I'm going to have to hurry along with
this calibration thing.


Bruce



Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 9:53:54 PM, you wrote:

DAM> Bruce Dayton wrote:

>> I'm wondering if there are any quick and dirty places to look to just
>> spot check for general color cast before I get into full/real
>> calibration?

DAM> Compared to 9300K, which is the usual setting for monitors, 6500K does 
DAM> look very yellow; 5500K even more so.  6500K is recommended as this is 
DAM> the white point for both the sRGB and Adobe RGB working colour spaces.

DAM> At least one calibration package (OptiCal, which you can get bundled with 
DAM> the Spyder) allows you to do this as a pre-calibration step before 
DAM> calibrating and profiling.  You adjust the R/G/B controls on your screen 
DAM> until both the colour temperature and luminance are correct.  After that 
DAM> you proceed through the actual calibration and profiling steps.

DAM> Cheers,

DAM> - Dave

DAM> http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/




Re: Color Calibration steps

2003-01-15 Thread David A. Mann
Bruce Dayton wrote:

> I'm wondering if there are any quick and dirty places to look to just
> spot check for general color cast before I get into full/real
> calibration?

Compared to 9300K, which is the usual setting for monitors, 6500K does 
look very yellow; 5500K even more so.  6500K is recommended as this is 
the white point for both the sRGB and Adobe RGB working colour spaces.

At least one calibration package (OptiCal, which you can get bundled with 
the Spyder) allows you to do this as a pre-calibration step before 
calibrating and profiling.  You adjust the R/G/B controls on your screen 
until both the colour temperature and luminance are correct.  After that 
you proceed through the actual calibration and profiling steps.

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/





Re: Color Calibration

2003-01-14 Thread David A. Mann
Andre Langevin wrote:

> Yes, the calibration data comes on a disc with the printed target. They
> form a pair.

That's better than the Kodak IT8 slide (Q60 E3A) I ordered last year, and 
I got received a slide but no reference file.  I wasn't impressed as 
these slides aren't cheap (I'd hate to think of what the 4x5" slide 
costs).   Luckily the obtainable from the Kodak website somewhere but I 
had to look pretty hard to find it.

If anyone is missing this file I am willing to make it available.  It 
will only be useful if you already have both the slide and the software 
to make a colour profile for your scanner.

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/





Re: Color Calibration

2003-01-14 Thread Andre Langevin
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I have one for sale at $5 + about $1.50 ship (I paid fifteen with

shipping).

I bought it for Wiziwyg and found out I needed the one made by
Wiziwyg (a lot more expensive).

Andre<

these have to come with the calibration data. does yours or do you have a
place to download it?

Herb...


Yes, the calibration data comes on a disc with the printed target. 
They form a pair.

Andre
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Re: Color Calibration

2003-01-14 Thread Herb Chong
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>I have one for sale at $5 + about $1.50 ship (I paid fifteen with
shipping).

I bought it for Wiziwyg and found out I needed the one made by 
Wiziwyg (a lot more expensive).

Andre<

these have to come with the calibration data. does yours or do you have a
place to download it?

Herb...




Re: Color Calibration

2003-01-14 Thread Andre Langevin
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Could you post a link or two for such free software.  Whenever I google

for color calibration stuff all I find is service bureaus and (usually
expensive) commercial calibration packages.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ<

try these to start with.

http://www.khk.net/color/links.html
http://www.targets.coloraid.de/
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/calibration/kodak_q60/

Herb...


If anybody needs an IT 8.7 Scanner Calibration Targets

(see http://www.targets.coloraid.de/)

I have one for sale at $5 + about $1.50 ship (I paid fifteen with shipping).

I bought it for Wiziwyg and found out I needed the one made by 
Wiziwyg (a lot more expensive).

Andre
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Re: Color Calibration

2003-01-13 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Yes, now do yourself a favor and go here: 
http://www.photonews.net/forums/forums.html
and search in Photo Digital.

BR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone heard of the Monaco system?  Or are there others that are
recommended to investigate?  Cost is a consideration as is Laptop/flat
panel display - high end Sony.

 






Re: Color Calibration

2003-01-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Herb,

I am aware of the LCD issue, but I have to work on laptops and have
not felt like buying a monitor besides.  I'm assuming Gamma is the
biggest problem with them - at least that seems to be what I notice
most.

I'm thinking that if I looked at a brightness scale before each time I
did work that I could get myself positioned properly.  I am curious if
any of the spyders work on LCD's?

I'm not sure I understand the difference between the photo and the
actual color target.  Is it something they supply or something you are
supposed to buy?

Are there other recommendations?

Thanks,


Bruce



Monday, January 13, 2003, 2:44:24 PM, you wrote:

HC> Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Anyone heard of the Monaco system?  Or are there others that are
HC> recommended to investigate?  Cost is a consideration as is Laptop/flat
HC> panel display - high end Sony.

HC> Thanks,

HC> Bruce<

HC> very few professionals use LCD panels for photo editing because when you
HC> move your head, the color you see changes. as for Monaco, i returned their
HC> software after i found it would not calibrate a scan of a photo of a color
HC> target, just scans of original color targets.

HC> Herb




Re: Color Calibration

2003-01-13 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Anyone heard of the Monaco system?  Or are there others that are
recommended to investigate?  Cost is a consideration as is Laptop/flat
panel display - high end Sony.

Thanks,

Bruce<

very few professionals use LCD panels for photo editing because when you
move your head, the color you see changes. as for Monaco, i returned their
software after i found it would not calibrate a scan of a photo of a color
target, just scans of original color targets.

Herb