Re: DA 18-55 Version I vs. II
Mmm I'd be interested in exchanging or selling/buying my DA16-45 for the Tamron 17-50/2.8. However, I'm not too sure how those compared to each other. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA 18-55 Version I vs. II
There were a couple of reviews, that more or less confirmed that the new II version was a much sharper lens corner to corner as well as in the center. The difference even showed up in the web sized images. Martin Trautmann wrote: Hi all, the 18-55 kit lens might lack some quality compared to other, much more expensive lenses. But AFAIK it does perform surprisingly well for its price or value (about $50 to $100?). How is the difference to its current successor? = 18-55mm = f 1:3.5-1:5.6 - lenses 12 - 11 - groups 9 - 8 = distance 0.25 m = fmin 22-38 = filter 52mm = length 67.5mm = diameter 68mm - weight 225 g - 220 g Apart from the different label with an extra red II I do not see any outside difference. Specs are almost identical, mainly one lens and one group less, thus less weight and probably less manufacturing cost. Did they improve optical quality by omitting a lens? I guess it does improve profit only. Are there any side-by-side comparisons? -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA 18-55 Version I vs. II
I could try it in January during Pentax Dubai Desert Adventure. They said, the new version was designed to meet more precise sensors like 10.2 and 14.6MPix ones instead of old 6MPix ones. As you may know, older one is rather feeble with K10D (i.e the lens resolution was lower than sensor resolution), but works really fine with K100D. We used K20D cameras with 18-55 II lenses for two days and the results are ok. Not as good as with DA*'s I had with me, but ok. Compared to older DA18-55 the resolution is clearly higher and it's geometry is also a bit better. BR, Margus Martin Trautmann wrote: Hi all, the 18-55 kit lens might lack some quality compared to other, much more expensive lenses. But AFAIK it does perform surprisingly well for its price or value (about $50 to $100?). How is the difference to its current successor? = 18-55mm = f 1:3.5-1:5.6 - lenses 12 - 11 - groups 9 - 8 = distance 0.25 m = fmin 22-38 = filter 52mm = length 67.5mm = diameter 68mm - weight 225 g - 220 g Apart from the different label with an extra red II I do not see any outside difference. Specs are almost identical, mainly one lens and one group less, thus less weight and probably less manufacturing cost. Did they improve optical quality by omitting a lens? I guess it does improve profit only. Are there any side-by-side comparisons? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: DA 18-55 Version I vs. II
There were a couple of reviews, that more or less confirmed that the new II version was a much sharper lens corner to corner as well as in the center. The difference even showed up in the web sized images. Interesting! I was originally thinking that, if I can ever afford to upgrade to the K20D, I'd just get the body only. However, if the 18-55 II is that much better, it might be worth getting the kit and sell my old 18-55 with the K10D. Since I'll probably never be able to afford the DA* 16-50, the 18-55 is my only option for an affordable wide zoom. PJ, do you remember where you read the reviews you mentioned? John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA 18-55 Version I vs. II
If I could remember that I'd have provided a link. John Celio wrote: There were a couple of reviews, that more or less confirmed that the new II version was a much sharper lens corner to corner as well as in the center. The difference even showed up in the web sized images. Interesting! I was originally thinking that, if I can ever afford to upgrade to the K20D, I'd just get the body only. However, if the 18-55 II is that much better, it might be worth getting the kit and sell my old 18-55 with the K10D. Since I'll probably never be able to afford the DA* 16-50, the 18-55 is my only option for an affordable wide zoom. PJ, do you remember where you read the reviews you mentioned? John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA 18-55 Version I vs. II
Scratch my last response. Google is your friend. Sample photos are about half way down the page. http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/default.asp?newsID=3374review=pentax+k20 John Celio wrote: There were a couple of reviews, that more or less confirmed that the new II version was a much sharper lens corner to corner as well as in the center. The difference even showed up in the web sized images. Interesting! I was originally thinking that, if I can ever afford to upgrade to the K20D, I'd just get the body only. However, if the 18-55 II is that much better, it might be worth getting the kit and sell my old 18-55 with the K10D. Since I'll probably never be able to afford the DA* 16-50, the 18-55 is my only option for an affordable wide zoom. PJ, do you remember where you read the reviews you mentioned? John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA 18-55 Version I vs. II
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:32 PM, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting! I was originally thinking that, if I can ever afford to upgrade to the K20D, I'd just get the body only. However, if the 18-55 II is that much better, it might be worth getting the kit and sell my old 18-55 with the K10D. Since I'll probably never be able to afford the DA* 16-50, the 18-55 is my only option for an affordable wide zoom. PJ, do you remember where you read the reviews you mentioned? John Celio For affordable wide zooms, the 16-45/4 and Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4.5 are excellent options for much less than the 16-50DA*. Pentax offers more than just the 16-50 and 18-55. I've owned both of those (16-45 when I had my K100D, 17-70 with the K10D) and liked both a lot. The 17-70 also makes a nice 17mm f2.8 prime if you use the zoom lock (which is how I normally used it). -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
