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This message did not get through, hence I'm trying again: Hi Dave (and all those who read/wrote about this ongoing disaster), Yes, when you hope you can start over, you get hit again, so you're always in a suspended/depressing state. There are lots of structural engineers at work (and the authorities are hiring all those available), but you cannot check all buildings in a few days, so someone gets back at home/work in buildings showing little/no damage, and then the quake hits again and someone else is killed again. And then you have to start evaluating everything as you did nothing before. There are no big cities in the most-damaged area (although Modena, Bologna and Ferrara are all within 30-40 kms from there), but there are countless small towns/villages one after another, rich in historical (and usually not so safe) buildings/churches. However, the worst and most surprising thing is the number of industrial sheds which collapsed (usually partially, but enough for killing workers and stopping manufacturing) in one of the richest and more active areas in Italy. They are mostly small companies, to which a destroyed building usually means nothing left and out of business. Sure some seismic rules have been eluded there... Dario -Messaggio originale- From: David Mann Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:12 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Earthquake (more) On May 30, 2012, at 2:01 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Update: ground keeps shaking and shaking over here. Today around 9 a.m. we experienced another major quake (shake and thunder, Richter 5.8), around the same power of the main one we suffered 9 days ago (Richter 5.9 then), plus several lesser shakes in the 3-to-4 range. More historical buildings and churches are down now, and more people at work were killed under industrial sheds which collapsed. I was dismayed to hear about that on the radio this morning. Just when you think it's all settling down you get hit again, and I know well how frustrating that is. Hopefully things will sort themselves out soon. Do they have structural engineers evaluating buildings before allowing people back in? It's been very quiet down here for a few months but we did have a 5.2 last Friday. I didn't notice it as I was out running at the time. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2012.0.1913 / Database dei virus: 2425/5030 - Data di rilascio: 29/05/2012 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Stay safe. Our thoughts are with you and your countrymen and women. All the best, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it Sent: May 30, 2012 5/30/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Earthquake (more) This message did not get through, hence I'm trying again: Hi Dave (and all those who read/wrote about this ongoing disaster), Yes, when you hope you can start over, you get hit again, so you're always in a suspended/depressing state. There are lots of structural engineers at work (and the authorities are hiring all those available), but you cannot check all buildings in a few days, so someone gets back at home/work in buildings showing little/no damage, and then the quake hits again and someone else is killed again. And then you have to start evaluating everything as you did nothing before. There are no big cities in the most-damaged area (although Modena, Bologna and Ferrara are all within 30-40 kms from there), but there are countless small towns/villages one after another, rich in historical (and usually not so safe) buildings/churches. However, the worst and most surprising thing is the number of industrial sheds which collapsed (usually partially, but enough for killing workers and stopping manufacturing) in one of the richest and more active areas in Italy. They are mostly small companies, to which a destroyed building usually means nothing left and out of business. Sure some seismic rules have been eluded there... Dario -Messaggio originale- From: David Mann Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:12 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Earthquake (more) On May 30, 2012, at 2:01 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Update: ground keeps shaking and shaking over here. Today around 9 a.m. we experienced another major quake (shake and thunder, Richter 5.8), around the same power of the main one we suffered 9 days ago (Richter 5.9 then), plus several lesser shakes in the 3-to-4 range. More historical buildings and churches are down now, and more people at work were killed under industrial sheds which collapsed. I was dismayed to hear about that on the radio this morning. Just when you think it's all settling down you get hit again, and I know well how frustrating that is. Hopefully things will sort themselves out soon. Do they have structural engineers evaluating buildings before allowing people back in? It's been very quiet down here for a few months but we did have a 5.2 last Friday. I didn't notice it as I was out running at the time. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2012.0.1913 / Database dei virus: 2425/5030 - Data di rilascio: 29/05/2012 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Dario, My thoughts are with you and your family to stay safe and the quakes to subside soon. I think also of all the lives lost, all the history crumbled to dust in these events. Keep making photos. In the end, they are the best means we have to recall the story of our friends and family, and our world. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Dave (and all those who read/wrote about this ongoing disaster), Yes, when you hope you can start over, you get hit again, so you're always in a suspended/depressing state. Yes, ther are lots of structural engineers at work (and they are hiring all those available), but you cannot check all buildings in a few days, so someone gets back at home/work in buildings showing little/no damage, and then the quake hits again and someone else is killed again. And then you have to start evaluating everything as you did nothing before. There are no big cities in the most-damaged area (although Modena, Bologna and Ferrara are all within 30-40 kms from there), but there are countless small towns/villages one after another, rich in historical (and usually not so safe) buildings/churches. However, the worst and most surprising thing is the number of industrial sheds which collapsed (usually partially, but enough for killing and stopping manufacturing) in one of the richest and more active areas in Italy. They are mostly small companies, to which a destroyed building usually means nothing left and out of business. Sure some seismic rules have been eluded there... Dario -Messaggio originale- From: David Mann Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:12 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Earthquake (more) On May 30, 2012, at 2:01 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Update: ground keeps shaking and shaking over here. Today around 9 a.m. we experienced another major quake (shake and thunder, Richter 5.8), around the same power of the main one we suffered 9 days ago (Richter 5.9 then), plus several lesser shakes in the 3-to-4 range. More historical buildings and churches are down now, and more people at work were killed under industrial sheds which collapsed. I was dismayed to hear about that on the radio this morning. Just when you think it's all settling down you get hit again, and I know well how frustrating that is. Hopefully things will sort themselves out soon. Do they have structural engineers evaluating buildings before allowing people back in? It's been very quiet down here for a few months but we did have a 5.2 last Friday. I didn't notice it as I was out running at the time. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2012.0.1913 / Database dei virus: 2425/5030 - Data di rilascio: 29/05/2012 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Godfrey, thanks for your concern. However, I'm not sure I'll make photos at all, as I live close enough to feel the shakes very well (and have some cracks in walls/ceiling at home), but no buildings are down and no displaced people are living in tents in my area (60-70 kms from the badly-hit towns). I'm not sure I want to go there to shoot, as I'm not enough in a photo-journalist mood to justify going there purposedly, to report on those people's bad luck. Also, I currently have a lot of work to do, enough to work at evenings/weekends. That also depends on a difficult family situation, with sister suffering of a rare disease (100% disabled) and aging parents to take some care of. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 5:40 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: ramarren Subject: Re: Earthquake (more) Dario, My thoughts are with you and your family to stay safe and the quakes to subside soon. I think also of all the lives lost, all the history crumbled to dust in these events. Keep making photos. In the end, they are the best means we have to recall the story of our friends and family, and our world. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2012.0.1913 / Database dei virus: 2425/5032 - Data di rilascio: 29/05/2012 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh g-d... Dario - please stay safe! I hope that this one was the last one... On 5/29/2012 17:01, Dario Bonazza wrote: Update: ground keeps shaking and shaking over here. Today around 9 a.m. we experienced another major quake (shake and thunder, Richter 5.8), around the same power of the main one we suffered 9 days ago (Richter 5.9 then), plus several lesser shakes in the 3-to-4 range. More historical buildings and churches are down now, and more people at work were killed under industrial sheds which collapsed. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Update: ground keeps shaking and shaking over here. Today around 9 a.m. we experienced another major quake (shake and thunder, Richter 5.8), around the same power of the main one we suffered 9 days ago (Richter 5.9 then), plus several lesser shakes in the 3-to-4 range. More historical buildings and churches are down now, and more people at work were killed under industrial sheds which collapsed. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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How terrible. Keep safe and out of harm's way. While it is tragic to lose historic monuments, the loss of human lives is the costliest toll. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Update: ground keeps shaking and shaking over here. Today around 9 a.m. we experienced another major quake (shake and thunder, Richter 5.8), around the same power of the main one we suffered 9 days ago (Richter 5.9 then), plus several lesser shakes in the 3-to-4 range. More historical buildings and churches are down now, and more people at work were killed under industrial sheds which collapsed. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well said, Daniel. I can only say I echo those sentiments. Darren -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ditto from Chicago! Dario--stay safe! Christine On May 29, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Well said, Daniel. I can only say I echo those sentiments. Darren -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well said, Daniel. I can only say I echo those sentiments. Darren Well said, Daniel. I can only say I echo those sentiments. Darren -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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And from Milwaukee! Keep us posted so we know you're OK. -p On 5/29/2012 11:06 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Ditto from Chicago! Dario--stay safe! Christine On May 29, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Well said, Daniel. I can only say I echo those sentiments. Darren -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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heard that on news -- was thinking of you - but just now saw a more complete news on TV here - Hope that crack in your ceiling isnt any bigger! take care! ann On 5/29/2012 10:01, Dario Bonazza wrote: Update: ground keeps shaking and shaking over here. Today around 9 a.m. we experienced another major quake (shake and thunder, Richter 5.8), around the same power of the main one we suffered 9 days ago (Richter 5.9 then), plus several lesser shakes in the 3-to-4 range. More historical buildings and churches are down now, and more people at work were killed under industrial sheds which collapsed. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Dario, Stay safe, as much as you can in this kind of disaster. I hope the damage to people and property is all done. My sympathies to all. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Update: ground keeps shaking and shaking over here. Today around 9 a.m. we experienced another major quake (shake and thunder, Richter 5.8), around the same power of the main one we suffered 9 days ago (Richter 5.9 then), plus several lesser shakes in the 3-to-4 range. More historical buildings and churches are down now, and more people at work were killed under industrial sheds which collapsed. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Dario I can only echo what others have said. I hope the worst is over. Stay safe. Best wishes Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Quoting Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it: Update: ground keeps shaking and shaking over here. Today around 9 a.m. we experienced another major quake (shake and thunder, Richter 5.8), around the same power of the main one we suffered 9 days ago (Richter 5.9 then), plus several lesser shakes in the 3-to-4 range. More historical buildings and churches are down now, and more people at work were killed under industrial sheds which collapsed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Message: 5 Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 16:01:41 +0200 From: Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Earthquake (more) Message-ID: 5DB3706873A945C29226A679A6B3CB68@DarioDesk Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Update: ground keeps shaking and shaking over here. Today around 9 a.m. we experienced another major quake (shake and thunder, Richter 5.8), around the same power of the main one we suffered 9 days ago (Richter 5.9 then), plus several lesser shakes in the 3-to-4 range. More historical buildings and churches are down now, and more people at work were killed under industrial sheds which collapsed. Dario Dario, I'm very sad to read that - just watched the news at home, and had to check the mail. Really hope the situation improves, the shakes stop and do not return. Wishing, willing, praying. -- luiz felipe luiz.felipe at luizfelipe.fot.br -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sorry to hear Dario. Hope things get better soon. Paul On May 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, luiz felipe wrote: Message: 5 Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 16:01:41 +0200 From: Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Earthquake (more) Message-ID: 5DB3706873A945C29226A679A6B3CB68@DarioDesk Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Update: ground keeps shaking and shaking over here. Today around 9 a.m. we experienced another major quake (shake and thunder, Richter 5.8), around the same power of the main one we suffered 9 days ago (Richter 5.9 then), plus several lesser shakes in the 3-to-4 range. More historical buildings and churches are down now, and more people at work were killed under industrial sheds which collapsed. Dario Dario, I'm very sad to read that - just watched the news at home, and had to check the mail. Really hope the situation improves, the shakes stop and do not return. Wishing, willing, praying. -- luiz felipe luiz.felipe at luizfelipe.fot.br -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On May 30, 2012, at 2:01 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Update: ground keeps shaking and shaking over here. Today around 9 a.m. we experienced another major quake (shake and thunder, Richter 5.8), around the same power of the main one we suffered 9 days ago (Richter 5.9 then), plus several lesser shakes in the 3-to-4 range. More historical buildings and churches are down now, and more people at work were killed under industrial sheds which collapsed. I was dismayed to hear about that on the radio this morning. Just when you think it's all settling down you get hit again, and I know well how frustrating that is. Hopefully things will sort themselves out soon. Do they have structural engineers evaluating buildings before allowing people back in? It's been very quiet down here for a few months but we did have a 5.2 last Friday. I didn't notice it as I was out running at the time. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
