Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
On 16/9/04, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: >http://nikonimaging.com/global/news/2004/0916_02.htm > > >He, he, told you so... Special order only? ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
> On 16/9/04, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >http://nikonimaging.com/global/news/2004/0916_02.htm > > > > > >He, he, told you so... > > Special order only? ;-) > > > > > Cheers, > Cotty I have all that on my D2h and use it in Av mode with single sensor AF. Lots of neat stuff,but how much is really necessary.?? Dave
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
Wow. What were they thinking. Must have been in the pipeline and would have cost more to kill it than to sell a couple thousand and then kill it. Graywolf wrote: http://nikonimaging.com/global/news/2004/0916_02.htm He, he, told you so...
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Wow. What were they thinking. Must have been in the pipeline and would >have cost more to kill it than to sell a couple thousand and then kill it. That's probably the case. At least it's one last hurrah for film SLR's. Looks like a pretty good one too! Don't think they'll sell many except to collectors, though. Perhaps they're trying to become the Leica of SLR's.
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
Hehe, I knew it would happen! F6 looks like a great camera, did you see the viewfinder coverage, 100% I also knew the APS sized sensor in 35mm was just temporary, hehe. APS sized sensors are for APS cameras I say! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:56 AM Subject: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera > http://nikonimaging.com/global/news/2004/0916_02.htm > > > He, he, told you so... > > -- > graywolf > http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html > > > >
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
Uh, the F6 doesn't have a sensor, it's a film camera. I'll be surprised if they sell enough of them to cover the cost of the advertising, yet alone the cost of development. I don't think you'll see another high end film camera from Canon. On Sep 16, 2004, at 9:10 PM, Steve Larson wrote: Hehe, I knew it would happen! F6 looks like a great camera, did you see the viewfinder coverage, 100% I also knew the APS sized sensor in 35mm was just temporary, hehe. APS sized sensors are for APS cameras I say! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:56 AM Subject: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera http://nikonimaging.com/global/news/2004/0916_02.htm He, he, told you so... -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
I know, I was talking about Canon's decision. Sorry, should have clarified it better. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 6:31 PM Subject: Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera > Uh, the F6 doesn't have a sensor, it's a film camera. I'll be surprised > if they sell enough of them to cover the cost of the advertising, yet > alone the cost of development. I don't think you'll see another high > end film camera from Canon. > > On Sep 16, 2004, at 9:10 PM, Steve Larson wrote: > > > Hehe, I knew it would happen! F6 looks like a great camera, did you > > see the viewfinder coverage, 100% I also knew the APS sized sensor > > in 35mm was just temporary, hehe. APS sized sensors are for APS > > cameras I say! > > > > Steve Larson > > Redondo Beach, California > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:56 AM > > Subject: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera > > > > > >> http://nikonimaging.com/global/news/2004/0916_02.htm > >> > >> > >> He, he, told you so... > >> > >> -- > >> graywolf > >> http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
John wrote: That's assuming they can sell a couple of thousand. This is a bizarre announcement. REPLY: Well both Pentax and apparently Nikon, think theres still healthy sales to be had in high-end film cameras. Pål
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
Gonz wrote: Wow. What were they thinking. Must have been in the pipeline and would have cost more to kill it than to sell a couple thousand and then kill it. REPLY: It is obviously just a film version of the D2's. Just like the *ist is the film sibling of the *istD. And the MZ-s a spin-off of the MD-S. This saves lots of developing costs. Pål
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
I'm not sure about this. We've been running a survey at the Wally World where I work in the Photo Center. Since September 1,we've sold 1 P&S film camera and 27 digital cameras. Probably close to 50% of our film processing is from one time use cameras. Digital processing via our kiosk is increasing daily. Bill - Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 8:16 AM Subject: Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera John wrote: That's assuming they can sell a couple of thousand. This is a bizarre announcement. REPLY: Well both Pentax and apparently Nikon, think theres still healthy sales to be had in high-end film cameras. Pål
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
- Original Message - From: "Bill Owens" Subject: Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera > I'm not sure about this. We've been running a survey at the Wally World > where I work in the Photo Center. Since September 1,we've sold 1 P&S film > camera and 27 digital cameras. Probably close to 50% of our film processing > is from one time use cameras. Digital processing via our kiosk is > increasing daily. The scuttlebut I am hearing is that Nikon is getting out of film P&S cameras entirely. No biggie there, they don't make their own anyway, but that they will release on final high end film SLR (the F6), as they feel there will be enough demand for it to justify it. The really high end cameras such as the Nikon F series are, to a great extent, cachet cameras for amateur photographers, rather than tools for professionals anyway. Canon has, I believe, indicated that they are pretty much out of the film SLR business, I wouldn't expect another top end film EOS, although another Rebel may come down the pike at some point. Our processing numbers and camera sales numbers match yours pretty closely. I think we have a higher % of film to one time use at the moment, but the trend is definitely there. One thing though, we are not getting many more one time cameras in as compared to last year, according to our recycling figures, but we are processing a lot less film. William Robb
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
Feedback I have been hearing that there may be a digital backlash soon, especially in the P&S market, as folks just find digital camreas too complicated to use. It may be that a lot of people return to nice and easy P&S iin the near future. A./ On 23/9/04 10:41 pm, "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Owens" > > Subject: Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film > camera > > >> I'm not sure about this. We've been running a survey at the Wally > World >> where I work in the Photo Center. Since September 1,we've sold 1 > P&S film >> camera and 27 digital cameras. Probably close to 50% of our film > processing >> is from one time use cameras. Digital processing via our kiosk is >> increasing daily. > > The scuttlebut I am hearing is that Nikon is getting out of film P&S > cameras entirely. No biggie there, they don't make their own anyway, > but that they will release on final high end film SLR (the F6), as > they feel there will be enough demand for it to justify it. > The really high end cameras such as the Nikon F series are, to a > great extent, cachet cameras for amateur photographers, rather than > tools for professionals anyway. > Canon has, I believe, indicated that they are pretty much out of the > film SLR business, I wouldn't expect another top end film EOS, > although another Rebel may come down the pike at some point. > Our processing numbers and camera sales numbers match yours pretty > closely. I think we have a higher % of film to one time use at the > moment, but the trend is definitely there. > > One thing though, we are not getting many more one time cameras in as > compared to last year, according to our recycling figures, but we are > processing a lot less film. > > William Robb > >
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
- Original Message - From: "Antonio" Subject: Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera > Feedback I have been hearing that there may be a digital backlash soon, > especially in the P&S market, as folks just find digital camreas too > complicated to use. > > It may be that a lot of people return to nice and easy P&S iin the near > future. Lets hope it happens while there is still film out there to buy. I am spending more time explaining digital to people than I ever did explaining film. William Robb
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
Lets hope it happens while there is still film out there to buy. I am spending more time explaining digital to people than I ever did explaining film. William Robb Same here. I've found that showing some photos taken with the Optio S or Optio MX and printed on the Frontier 375 show the average consumer they NORMALLY don't need more than 3 megapixels for the usual 4x6 snapshot. Bill
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:12:40 -0400, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same here. I've found that showing some photos taken with the Optio S or > Optio MX and printed on the Frontier 375 show the average consumer they > NORMALLY don't need more than 3 megapixels for the usual 4x6 snapshot. > > Bill Our Noritsu has made some great 8x10's from 3MP cameras. Nothing that I'd be happy with at close range, but it's rare to find a customer who can find any fault with them. If you want to crop, though, that's a whole different story. It's rare that I have to explain much beyond the basics when it comes to digital photography. Apart from the rare customers (usually middle aged people too busy/lazy to read a manual or too insecure to think they could understand it) who want to know every single feature, people seem to want to know only how to use it as simply as possible. Chris