Re: I've made a lens decision
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Cory Waterscbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: I have decided that for walking around at a place like Disney World with your family taking those sorts of snapshots, you need to have a lens like a 28-200. ... Me, I'd go with a normal or short portrait tele lens, f/2.8 or faster. But thats me. ;-) -- Godfrey www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto www.twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've made a lens decision
On Aug 1, 2009, at 13:35 , Cory Waters wrote: I have decided that for walking around at a place like Disney World with your family taking those sorts of snapshots, you need to have a lens like a 28-200. I'm willing to sacrifice the perceived loss of tack-sharp or fantastic image quality whatever to have one fairly compact lens that has the wide focal range that I really want on days like these. I've been carrying the 16-50 and the 50-200 but changing lenses is such a bother when you have all this other gack we're carrying through the parks. CW DA 18-250 — a little bigger, heavier, and you have to keep the creep lock locked until you up it to your face, but MUCH more versatile on the wide end (think 27mm vs 42mm) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've made a lens decision
The 18-250 is available in both Tamron and Pentax brands. The only differences are look and probably in K-7 case, auto CA etc. correction. This zoom is also well known as being pretty damn good for what it is (a do it all lens). On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com wrote: On Aug 1, 2009, at 13:35 , Cory Waters wrote: I have decided that for walking around at a place like Disney World with your family taking those sorts of snapshots, you need to have a lens like a 28-200. I'm willing to sacrifice the perceived loss of tack-sharp or fantastic image quality whatever to have one fairly compact lens that has the wide focal range that I really want on days like these. I've been carrying the 16-50 and the 50-200 but changing lenses is such a bother when you have all this other gack we're carrying through the parks. CW DA 18-250 — a little bigger, heavier, and you have to keep the creep lock locked until you up it to your face, but MUCH more versatile on the wide end (think 27mm vs 42mm) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've made a lens decision
I came to a similar conclusion a few months ago and, after getting some suggestions here, I picked up a Sigma 18-125 f3.5-5.5 DC at a good price on EBay. I haven't regretted the purchase. Maybe a bit short on the long end for what you want but as a 'go anywhere' lens it's quite good. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:35 -0700, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: I have decided that for walking around at a place like Disney World with your family taking those sorts of snapshots, you need to have a lens like a 28-200. I'm willing to sacrifice the perceived loss of tack-sharp or fantastic image quality whatever to have one fairly compact lens that has the wide focal range that I really want on days like these. I've been carrying the 16-50 and the 50-200 but changing lenses is such a bother when you have all this other gack we're carrying through the parks. CW -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've made a lens decision
From: Thibouille The 18-250 is available in both Tamron and Pentax brands. The only differences are look and probably in K-7 case, auto CA etc. correction. This zoom is also well known as being pretty damn good for what it is (a do it all lens). On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com wrote: On Aug 1, 2009, at 13:35 , Cory Waters wrote: I have decided that for walking around at a place like Disney World with your family taking those sorts of snapshots, you need to have a lens like a 28-200. ?I'm willing to sacrifice the perceived loss of tack-sharp or fantastic image quality whatever to have one fairly compact lens that has the wide focal range that I really want on days like these. ?I've been carrying the 16-50 and the 50-200 but changing lenses is such a bother when you have all this other gack we're carrying through the parks. CW DA 18-250 ? a little bigger, heavier, and you have to keep the creep lock locked until you up it to your face, but MUCH more versatile on the wide end (think 27mm vs 42mm) I have a Tamron 28-200 that is just a terrible lens. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: I've made a lens decision
for places like disney world a good quality PS digital is probably easier than a DSLR. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 6:36 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: I've made a lens decision From: Thibouille The 18-250 is available in both Tamron and Pentax brands. The only differences are look and probably in K-7 case, auto CA etc. correction. This zoom is also well known as being pretty damn good for what it is (a do it all lens). On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com wrote: On Aug 1, 2009, at 13:35 , Cory Waters wrote: I have decided that for walking around at a place like Disney World with your family taking those sorts of snapshots, you need to have a lens like a 28-200. ?I'm willing to sacrifice the perceived loss of tack-sharp or fantastic image quality whatever to have one fairly compact lens that has the wide focal range that I really want on days like these. ?I've been carrying the 16-50 and the 50-200 but changing lenses is such a bother when you have all this other gack we're carrying through the parks. CW DA 18-250 ? a little bigger, heavier, and you have to keep the creep lock locked until you up it to your face, but MUCH more versatile on the wide end (think 27mm vs 42mm) I have a Tamron 28-200 that is just a terrible lens. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've made a lens decision
It's the lens I used every day until I got the DA* 60-250 for my dog park work. My only complaint was that it didn't focus as well at 250mm, because it had gone to ƒ6.7. But that was overcome by using 400 and 800 ISO when in shade or cloudy days. On Aug 1, 2009, at 14:25 , Thibouille wrote: The 18-250 is available in both Tamron and Pentax brands. The only differences are look and probably in K-7 case, auto CA etc. correction. This zoom is also well known as being pretty damn good for what it is (a do it all lens). On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com wrote: On Aug 1, 2009, at 13:35 , Cory Waters wrote: I have decided that for walking around at a place like Disney World with your family taking those sorts of snapshots, you need to have a lens like a 28-200. I'm willing to sacrifice the perceived loss of tack-sharp or fantastic image quality whatever to have one fairly compact lens that has the wide focal range that I really want on days like these. I've been carrying the 16-50 and the 50-200 but changing lenses is such a bother when you have all this other gack we're carrying through the parks. CW DA 18-250 — a little bigger, heavier, and you have to keep the creep lock locked until you up it to your face, but MUCH more versatile on the wide end (think 27mm vs 42mm) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ It is still true, as was first said many years ago, that people are the only sophisticated computing devices that can be made at low cost by unskilled workers!” — Martin G. Wolf, PhD -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've made a lens decision
On Aug 1, 2009, at 15:38 , J.C. O'Connell wrote: for places like disney world a good quality PS digital is probably easier than a DSLR. Poobah. You would not look at all 'cool' enough. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've made a lens decision
Cory Waters wrote: I have decided that for walking around at a place like Disney World with your family taking those sorts of snapshots, you need to have a lens like a 28-200. I'm willing to sacrifice the perceived loss of tack-sharp or fantastic image quality whatever to have one fairly compact lens that has the wide focal range that I really want on days like these. I've been carrying the 16-50 and the 50-200 but changing lenses is such a bother when you have all this other gack we're carrying through the parks. CW Something like a C-8080? keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've made a lens decision
Yes, 28 is way too long for what I might need out in the bush. what was I thinking? CW - Original Message From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 5:16:26 PM Subject: Re: I've made a lens decision On Aug 1, 2009, at 13:35 , Cory Waters wrote: I have decided that for walking around at a place like Disney World with your family taking those sorts of snapshots, you need to have a lens like a 28-200. I'm willing to sacrifice the perceived loss of tack-sharp or fantastic image quality whatever to have one fairly compact lens that has the wide focal range that I really want on days like these. I've been carrying the 16-50 and the 50-200 but changing lenses is such a bother when you have all this other gack we're carrying through the parks. CW DA 18-250 — a little bigger, heavier, and you have to keep the creep lock locked until you up it to your face, but MUCH more versatile on the wide end (think 27mm vs 42mm) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've made a lens decision
For this exact same situation, I like the analog of a 28-90 for 35mm. I'll give up the reach for the weight reduction. I bet I could live with just a 18-55 kit zoom for walk around snaps. Steve Desjardins On Aug 1, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: I have decided that for walking around at a place like Disney World with your family taking those sorts of snapshots, you need to have a lens like a 28-200. I'm willing to sacrifice the perceived loss of tack-sharp or fantastic image quality whatever to have one fairly compact lens that has the wide focal range that I really want on days like these. I've been carrying the 16-50 and the 50-200 but changing lenses is such a bother when you have all this other gack we're carrying through the parks. CW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've made a lens decision
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 06:36:22PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: I have a Tamron 28-200 that is just a terrible lens. It was one of the first, if not the first, lens I bought for my K100. I picked it up at BH for a lot less than I expected. After I got my 18-250, I was having problems with the 18-250 misreading the focal length and had to send it in for repair. The 28-200 was so bad I used the Pentax 28-80 I had gotten in the meantime and would crop rather than use the 28-200. I'm very happy with the 18-250 as a ready for anything lens. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've made a lens decision
I shot and posted this a couple of days ago. The Pentax version isn't that horrible. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20tutu.html I still want to replace my two zoom kit with something better, because of it. but in bright light so you can stop down a bit it's not that bad in a pinch. Larry Colen wrote: On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 06:36:22PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: I have a Tamron 28-200 that is just a terrible lens. It was one of the first, if not the first, lens I bought for my K100. I picked it up at BH for a lot less than I expected. After I got my 18-250, I was having problems with the 18-250 misreading the focal length and had to send it in for repair. The 28-200 was so bad I used the Pentax 28-80 I had gotten in the meantime and would crop rather than use the 28-200. I'm very happy with the 18-250 as a ready for anything lens. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: I've made a lens decision
The problem with most of those extended zoom range zoom lenses is that they do a lot of things OK, but nothing really well. They also tend to be slow and have more geometric distortion/flare than moderate zooms or primes. They are good for grab shots when you really don't know what to expect and don't/wont have time to change lenses, but other than that, I don't want to use one when I do have the time to change lenses for the reasons mentioned above. I mean, if they were really as good as a pair of moderate zooms or several primes, they would have all taken over the world by now and they certainly havent (yet). -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 1:04 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I've made a lens decision I shot and posted this a couple of days ago. The Pentax version isn't that horrible. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20tutu.html I still want to replace my two zoom kit with something better, because of it. but in bright light so you can stop down a bit it's not that bad in a pinch. Larry Colen wrote: On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 06:36:22PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: I have a Tamron 28-200 that is just a terrible lens. It was one of the first, if not the first, lens I bought for my K100. I picked it up at BH for a lot less than I expected. After I got my 18-250, I was having problems with the 18-250 misreading the focal length and had to send it in for repair. The 28-200 was so bad I used the Pentax 28-80 I had gotten in the meantime and would crop rather than use the 28-200. I'm very happy with the 18-250 as a ready for anything lens. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
