Re: Macintosh Owners
Hi Shel, On my OS 10.1 machine, it's Arial black on a grey background. This is with Opera 5.0b3 and IE 5.1. In other words, no problems. -- Kristian On Sunday, November 4, 2001, at 06:58 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/lx/questions.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Macintosh Owners
Well pointed out and I have looked at the site and have made a link. Thanks for the info. :-) Paul Delcour - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Macintosh Owners
Rob Studdert writes: > pity that none of the HTML Browsers currently available adhere to the > certified HTML spec :-( I second your comment but I will point out that in some areas, notably frames, the spec itself isn't even up to standard. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Macintosh Owners
On the iBook (a G3 300) running IE 5.1 on OS X 10.1, looks like Arial. Page looks fine. I've also just loaded it up using OmniWeb 4.05 on the same computer. Looks the same (though the text is smaller, but this is probably because I haven't changed any of OmniWeb's defaults and I certainly have in IE 5.1). No problems. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Macintosh Owners
On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 06:34:40 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Although I sent you a private message, I thought I'd address this aspect > here. With Netscape 4.7 even if I specify a specific font in the HTML > code, I can still set my preferences to another font face, and adjust > the size. From what you've written I gather that that's not always a > possibility with other browsers and systems. Is that correct? Some browser's make it very hard to adjust to a page. Besides, do you really want people to have to ditz with their browser just to view your pages? I've politely complained to several webmasters because they did silly things like set the fonts to 10 pixels tall. Well, on a 120 dpi monitor, that's unreadable. Their response sometimes was "change your browser settings". Well, thank you very much, but I'm not going to do that for every site I visit. I spend eight to sixteen hours a day staring at monitors. I've spent a lot of time and effort tuning the "visual environment" of my computers. A site has to have some pretty compelling content to make me want to dump all of that work and risk the additional eyestrain. > I really want to put stuff up that's accessible to everyone, and that > was in my mind when setting up the page. But, if there's a better way > to do it than I've done it, I'd like to know about it. That's a great goal, but it either reduces how "fancy" you can get or it makes a lot more work for you. If you really want a visually rich site, then accessibility angle can force you to have a second set of pages with reduced content, for example, "text only", for those that can't make use of the "full" site. I generally create only one set, that has some graphics and colors, but doesn't go wild with them, and tries to avoid bad combinations, like red next to blue or green. There are guides out there on the Web for accessable site development. I can't remember the URLs, but a search on Google should dig a few up. If you want to help blind "viewers" out as much as possible, for example, you have to make liberal use of the ALT and TITLE attributes on tags so that their screen readers can do something useful for them with your site. You also have to be very careful about using absolute sizes for anything, whether fonts or tables or frames or columns or whatever. Layouts based on absolute sizes generally fare poorly when used on a display that's not exactly the same size and fonts as the one the developer was using. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Macintosh Owners
Hi Doug ... Although I sent you a private message, I thought I'd address this aspect here. With Netscape 4.7 even if I specify a specific font in the HTML code, I can still set my preferences to another font face, and adjust the size. From what you've written I gather that that's not always a possibility with other browsers and systems. Is that correct? I really want to put stuff up that's accessible to everyone, and that was in my mind when setting up the page. But, if there's a better way to do it than I've done it, I'd like to know about it. Thanks! Doug Franklin wrote: > > Hi Shel, > > On Sat, 03 Nov 2001 22:58:33 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/lx/questions.html > > and let me know what font face you see or if you have any problems > > reading it. Also, please let me know which O/S you're using. Thanks! > > If I might interject, here, I think it's better not to specify actual > fonts since you have no idea what fonts the viewer has available. It's > better to just use the HTML standard font names like "serif", > "sans-serif", and "monospace". That way you use the ones the end-user > has chosen. By the same token, it's best only to specify the relative > font sizes, like "5" and "normal" instead of absolute font sizes, like > "12pt" or "12px", since you won't foul up the end-user's choices. > Visually impaired people view the web, too, and often they have very > specific needs for fonts and sizes. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Macintosh Owners
Hi Shel, On Sat, 03 Nov 2001 22:58:33 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/lx/questions.html > and let me know what font face you see or if you have any problems > reading it. Also, please let me know which O/S you're using. Thanks! If I might interject, here, I think it's better not to specify actual fonts since you have no idea what fonts the viewer has available. It's better to just use the HTML standard font names like "serif", "sans-serif", and "monospace". That way you use the ones the end-user has chosen. By the same token, it's best only to specify the relative font sizes, like "5" and "normal" instead of absolute font sizes, like "12pt" or "12px", since you won't foul up the end-user's choices. Visually impaired people view the web, too, and often they have very specific needs for fonts and sizes. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Macintosh Owners
Hi Shel, On my Mac G3/300 with System 9.1, the page looks fine. Black type on a gray background. The font is some kind of san seraph, helvetica perhaps. The body copy appears to be around 14 to 16 point. The headline is a bit bolder, and looks to be around 24 point. Paul Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Hi ... would you please check this page > > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/lx/questions.html > > and let me know what font face you see or if you have any problems > reading it. Also, please let me know which O/S you're using. Thanks! > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Macintosh Owners
Hi Shel, On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 at 01:57:34 -0500 (EST), Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Hi ... would you please check this page > [snip] > and let me know what font face you see or if you have any problems > reading it. Also, please let me know which O/S you're using. Thanks! I checked with both Mozilla 0.95 and IE 5.1.3 running on MacOS X 10.1. In both cases, I see Arial font face in the windows of my graphical user agents. Hope this helps. -- Yoshihiko Takinami Osaka, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
