Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Keith Whaley
Very nice shot, Mark!

keith whaley

Mark Erickson wrote:
 
 Jeff,
 
 I have a Minolta Spotmeter F.  It's pretty nice.  The feature that I use a
 lot is the memory that allows you to take several readings.  It shows the
 results graphically on the LCD display.  As William Robb mentioned, it makes
 zone system calculations really easy.
 
 Here's an example taken with my Century Graphic with the aid of my meter:
 
 http://www.westerickson.net/mark/misc/PennerLake.jpg
 
 --Mark




Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Mike Johnston
 The Spotmeter F has an excellent reputation. About the only
 thing Minolta does well is they make good meters.


Personally, I'd prefer a Minolta meter for studio work with flash, but for
work with negative film in natural light I think a Pentax spotmeter is head
and shoulders better. Hold out.

--Mike




Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Mike Johnston
 Here's an example taken with my Century Graphic with the aid of my meter:
 
 http://www.westerickson.net/mark/misc/PennerLake.jpg



Ahh, that's a beautiful shot. You have good tone.

(He has good tone was Louis Armstrong's highest praise for a fellow
musician.)

--Mike




Re: Becoming OT: Jazz (Was: Re: Minolta Spotmeter F)

2002-12-04 Thread Keith Whaley


Robert Soames Wetmore wrote:
 
 (He has good tone was Louis Armstrong's highest praise for a fellow
 musician.)
 
 --Mike
 
 I prefer a dry, dirty, nasty tone - like Steve Grossman's.  Or maybe rich
 and fruity and nasty like Harry Sokal...or big and nasty and scratchy like
 early Gato Barbieri.  But never just good!
 
 Rob

We weren't talking literally about tone preferences, we were talking
jazz quality.
Ya just had to be there, Rob.
Good from Ol' Louis was more praise than you can imagine.
Just 'good'? No. Really, REALLY good!  g

And, not just musical 'tone' but everything about how the musician played.

keith whaley




Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Mark Erickson
Jeff (and Mike),

Thanks for the complement.  The Century Graphic is a 2.25x3.25 press
camera.  It will take pictures with sheet film, and Graflex rollfilm backs
and Mamiya RB67 backs can also be used to hold film.  I use rollfilm backs.
I took this shot with a Schneider Xenar 105mm F3.5 lens, Cokin red filter
(yeah, I'm cheap), on Kodak T400CN.  Pulled it into the computer with an
Epson 2450 scanner, did a little digital dodging and burning, and finally
virtually printed it on high-contrast paper (i.e., cranked up the contrast
a bit).  I only wish there were more clouds.

I'm also interested to hear why Mike thinks the Pentax meter is better than
the Minolta.  The one comparison that I can make is that the Minolta meter
has a plastic body and doesn't feel all that rugged.  Both Pentax meters
feel pretty bomber to me.  If I weren't cheap, I'd probably by a Zone VI
modified Pentax meter.  But I'm cheap.  Except for my MZ-S, FA* lenses, etc.
H

--Mark


Hi Mark,

Nice shot. Great tonality range. Is the Century Graphic a 4x5 or a
21/4x31/4
camera?

My exposure problems seem to arise in tricky lighting situations using
colour reversal film (Agfa RSX) and a Gossen Lunalite meter.

I'm in the process of acquiring a Minolta Spotmeter F. I hope it doesn't
elude me.

Jeff.




Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Mike Johnston
 I'm also interested to hear why Mike thinks the Pentax meter is better than
 the Minolta.


I'll withdraw the comment. I don't know the specific Minolta meter under
discussion. I just have lots of memories of being irritated while futzing
with over-featured Minolta studio meters, and lots of memories of the
satisfying, straightforward Pentax spotmeter I used to own.

Funny and true story: a woman I knew once who taught classes in how to use
the top-of-the-line Minolta studio meter had to bone up on its operation and
features before every class she taught. The meter was so complicated she
couldn't remember everything about how to work it from one class to the
next.

--Mike




Re: Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread David Brooks
Don't worry Jeff.We won't snipe yaG

Dave

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I'm in the process of acquiring a Minolta Spotmeter F. I hope it 
doesn't
elude me.

Jeff.




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Re: Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Jeff
Not an ebay sale. I already Paypal'd the guy.
Hope he doesn't stiff me.

Jeff.
PS: We'll keep you posted.

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 Don't worry Jeff.We won't snipe yaG
 
 Dave
 
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 I'm in the process of acquiring a Minolta Spotmeter F. I hope it 
 doesn't
 elude me.
 
 Jeff.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Jeff
Sorry for the double post. My computer hiccupped.

I've used a few rolls of Agfa RSX II 50  100. Love it.
The secret is in the processing.

Jeff.

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 Not an ebay sale. I already Paypal'd the guy.
 Hope he doesn't stiff me.
 
 Jeff.
 PS: We'll keep you posted.
 
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Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Dec 2002 at 7:44, Jeff wrote:

 What about landscape photography with Positive film?
 That's what I need the Spotmeter for.

Jeff,

The Spotmeter F has a few functions that are specifically there to support 
colour positive shooting. It has two buttons, Highlight and Shadow and the 
action of these buttons is to add an exposure offset which will pull metered 
highlights or shadows into the range of most slide films, quite handy in some 
instances.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Jeff
Hi Rob and all other members who helped me decide,

The meter is on it's way. It's going to miss Hanukah, but I'll have plenty
of time to learn it's intricacies.
I know about it's features, I'm just going to have to learn how to use them.
That's a half of the fun in photography.

Cheers,
Jeff

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From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Minolta Spotmeter F


 On 4 Dec 2002 at 7:44, Jeff wrote:

  What about landscape photography with Positive film?
  That's what I need the Spotmeter for.

 Jeff,

 The Spotmeter F has a few functions that are specifically there to support
 colour positive shooting. It has two buttons, Highlight and Shadow and the
 action of these buttons is to add an exposure offset which will pull
metered
 highlights or shadows into the range of most slide films, quite handy in
some
 instances.

 Cheers,

 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html





Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 Dec 2002 at 21:39, Jeff wrote:

 I'm trying to locate a Pentax Digital Spotmeter, to no avail.
 Meantime I see many Minolta Spotmeter F's in the $225~$250 range.
 
 How good is this meter? How does it compare with the PDS?

Excellent meter, very accurate, good tight spot with low flare, good finder, 
illuminated LCD in finder EV or F stop, LCD on body with comprehensive read-
out, digital and pseudo analogue scale, real-time F-stop/speed calculations, 
flash/ambient, memory and averaging, one AA battery lasts for years, wider 
measurement range than Pentax Digispot but larger.

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html




Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-03 Thread Mark Erickson
Jeff,

I have a Minolta Spotmeter F.  It's pretty nice.  The feature that I use a
lot is the memory that allows you to take several readings.  It shows the
results graphically on the LCD display.  As William Robb mentioned, it makes
zone system calculations really easy.

Here's an example taken with my Century Graphic with the aid of my meter:

http://www.westerickson.net/mark/misc/PennerLake.jpg

--Mark




Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-03 Thread Jeff
 Excellent meter, very accurate, good tight spot with low flare, good
finder,
 illuminated LCD in finder EV or F stop, LCD on body with comprehensive
read-
 out, digital and pseudo analogue scale, real-time F-stop/speed
calculations,
 flash/ambient, memory and averaging, one AA battery lasts for years, wider
 measurement range than Pentax Digispot but larger.

 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html


Thanks Rob,
I have one almost pegged.

We'll keep you posted.

Jeff.




Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-03 Thread Jeff

- Original Message -
From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: Minolta Spotmeter F


 Jeff,

 I have a Minolta Spotmeter F.  It's pretty nice.  The feature that I use a
 lot is the memory that allows you to take several readings.  It shows the
 results graphically on the LCD display.  As William Robb mentioned, it
makes
 zone system calculations really easy.

 Here's an example taken with my Century Graphic with the aid of my meter:

 http://www.westerickson.net/mark/misc/PennerLake.jpg

 --Mark



Hi Mark,

Nice shot. Great tonality range. Is the Century Graphic a 4x5 or a 21/4x31/4
camera?

My exposure problems seem to arise in tricky lighting situations using
colour reversal film (Agfa RSX) and a Gossen Lunalite meter.

I'm in the process of acquiring a Minolta Spotmeter F. I hope it doesn't
elude me.

Jeff.