RE: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)

[Bob W]

> >And
> >put more effort and money into finding & exploiting 
> alternatives to petrol. 
> 
> Side note: filmed at Oxford University last week, watched as 
> methane I think it was methane) was mixed with a catalyst to 
> produce heat and clean steam - at room temperature! Watch as 
> steam makes a come-back in 5 to 10 years. Also - methane 
> (definitely methane this time) was mixed with a catalyst to 
> produce pure hydrogen - at room temperature.
> Previously this could only be achieved with hundreds of 
> degrees C of heat.
> 

jolly good.

[...]
> 
> Expect fuel cell technology to take off in a very large way 
> over the coming few years. Prediction: in 10 years batteries 
> will have gone the way of film!
> 

you mean they'll all be in my fridge? I don't have room!

> 
> 

Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)

[graywolf]

A hardy laugh is a good way to start the day. Thanks, Bob.

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Bob W wrote:


[...]
Expect fuel cell technology to take off in a very large way 
over the coming few years. Prediction: in 10 years batteries 
will have gone the way of film!




you mean they'll all be in my fridge? I don't have room!

Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)

[graywolf]

And they will get the methane by cracking petroleum.

I get a rather grand sense of deja vu from this report, Cotty. How many 
times over the years have I heard that same story? There is a miracle 
break through every few years and that is the last you hear of that. As 
long as you can just pump petroleum out of the ground nothing else will 
be able to compete with it. What does it actually cost to get petroleum 
out of the ground? A penny a gallon*, or is that too high a figure? All 
the rest of the price you pay is transportation, taxes, and profits.


*yes I am aware that it takes several gallons of raw petroleum to make a 
gallon of gasoline, but you get other usable stuff out of the left overs.


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Cotty wrote:

On 28/4/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:


And
put more effort and money into finding & exploiting alternatives to petrol. 


Side note: filmed at Oxford University last week, watched as methane I
think it was methane) was mixed with a catalyst to produce heat and
clean steam - at room temperature! Watch as steam makes a come-back in 5
to 10 years. Also - methane (definitely methane this time) was mixed
with a catalyst to produce pure hydrogen - at room temperature.
Previously this could only be achieved with hundreds of degrees C of heat.

The company with the patent on the catalysts is called Oxford Catalysts
and floated on the London Stock Exchange last week to raise £15million
to get going.

Expect fuel cell technology to take off in a very large way over the
coming few years. Prediction: in 10 years batteries will have gone the
way of film!






Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)

[P. J. Alling]

There are a couple of problems with this, I don't expect that steam will 
make a comeback, as direct to electricity is more
convenient.  Then there's the waste CO(2) from using methane.  I don't 
see it as a problem but the global warming fanatics

will.

Cotty wrote:


On 28/4/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

 


And
put more effort and money into finding & exploiting alternatives to petrol. 
   



Side note: filmed at Oxford University last week, watched as methane I
think it was methane) was mixed with a catalyst to produce heat and
clean steam - at room temperature! Watch as steam makes a come-back in 5
to 10 years. Also - methane (definitely methane this time) was mixed
with a catalyst to produce pure hydrogen - at room temperature.
Previously this could only be achieved with hundreds of degrees C of heat.

The company with the patent on the catalysts is called Oxford Catalysts
and floated on the London Stock Exchange last week to raise £15million
to get going.

Expect fuel cell technology to take off in a very large way over the
coming few years. Prediction: in 10 years batteries will have gone the
way of film!






Cheers,
 Cotty


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Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)

[P. J. Alling]

High speed micro turbine electricity generation.  Waste heat is enormous...

mike wilson wrote:


From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2006/04/29 Sat PM 03:34:59 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)

There are a couple of problems with this, I don't expect that steam will 
make a comeback, as direct to electricity is more
convenient.  Then there's the waste CO(2) from using methane.  I don't 
see it as a problem but the global warming fanatics

will.
   



I can't wait to see the newest digital camera.  With a steam vent.  Can you 
imagine the liabilty issues?

 


Cotty wrote:

   


On 28/4/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:



 


And
put more effort and money into finding & exploiting alternatives to petrol. 
  

   


Side note: filmed at Oxford University last week, watched as methane I
think it was methane) was mixed with a catalyst to produce heat and
clean steam - at room temperature! Watch as steam makes a come-back in 5
to 10 years. Also - methane (definitely methane this time) was mixed
with a catalyst to produce pure hydrogen - at room temperature.
Previously this could only be achieved with hundreds of degrees C of heat.

The company with the patent on the catalysts is called Oxford Catalysts
and floated on the London Stock Exchange last week to raise £15million
to get going.

Expect fuel cell technology to take off in a very large way over the
coming few years. Prediction: in 10 years batteries will have gone the
way of film!

<http://www.oxfordcatalysts.com/>




Cheers,
Cotty


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Re: Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/04/29 Sat PM 03:34:59 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)
> 
> There are a couple of problems with this, I don't expect that steam will 
> make a comeback, as direct to electricity is more
> convenient.  Then there's the waste CO(2) from using methane.  I don't 
> see it as a problem but the global warming fanatics
> will.

I can't wait to see the newest digital camera.  With a steam vent.  Can you 
imagine the liabilty issues?

> 
> Cotty wrote:
> 
> >On 28/4/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>And
> >>put more effort and money into finding & exploiting alternatives to petrol. 
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Side note: filmed at Oxford University last week, watched as methane I
> >think it was methane) was mixed with a catalyst to produce heat and
> >clean steam - at room temperature! Watch as steam makes a come-back in 5
> >to 10 years. Also - methane (definitely methane this time) was mixed
> >with a catalyst to produce pure hydrogen - at room temperature.
> >Previously this could only be achieved with hundreds of degrees C of heat.
> >
> >The company with the patent on the catalysts is called Oxford Catalysts
> >and floated on the London Stock Exchange last week to raise £15million
> >to get going.
> >
> >Expect fuel cell technology to take off in a very large way over the
> >coming few years. Prediction: in 10 years batteries will have gone the
> >way of film!
> >
> ><http://www.oxfordcatalysts.com/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Cheers,
> >  Cotty
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
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