Re: On USM and KAF2/KAF3 (was Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-14 Thread Iren & Henry Chu
Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote:


On the other hand I think there is no need to implement USM at all. The 
shaft/pin
drive methods works about as fast and good as the USM competition and it 
allows
the lenses to be cheaper without the motor.


For wide-angle to short telephoto lens, your point is right.  But for long 
telephoto lens, especially those without internal focusing, USM is much 
faster.  Another major advantage for USM is that it is very silent, which is 
important for wildlife or concert photography.

Regards,

Henry Chu
14/2/2003

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Re: On USM and KAF2/KAF3 (was Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-14 Thread Leonard Paris

That would be "overkill".  Canon EOS bodies can use either type of AF lens 
without having a switch to choose between them. If you were going to use AF 
at all, why would you NOT want the advantage of the USM? The only real 
choices we need are:  AF or MF. We already have that.

Len
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Subject: Re: On USM and KAF2/KAF3 (was Re: End of K-mount?
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:00:49 -0800

Perhaps it could be done with a switch on the lens to determine which AF 
method was used? Something like "AF/USM" switch. When the switch was in 
"AF" position, the power for the "USM" would be disconnected and the lens 
acted like a regular Pentax AF lens. When the switch was set to "USM", the 
conventional AF mechanism would be disengaged and USM would click in. But 
that creates a dilemma, since future AF bodies should or might support 
current AF lenses, you might actually have the choice to use either AF 
methods when USM lenses were mounted on USM bodies. The situation is a bit 
like digital/analog flash system. Nikon chose to integrate analog support 
in digital flashes while Pentax chose to integrate analog support in AF 
digital bodies. However, if Pentax would ever release USM lenses, it would 
be highly likely to follow what Nikon did - USM lenses must be used on 
newer bodies which support both AF method.

regards,
Alan Chan



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Re: On USM and KAF2/KAF3 (was Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-13 Thread Alan Chan
Perhaps it could be done with a switch on the lens to determine which AF 
method was used? Something like "AF/USM" switch. When the switch was in "AF" 
position, the power for the "USM" would be disconnected and the lens acted 
like a regular Pentax AF lens. When the switch was set to "USM", the 
conventional AF mechanism would be disengaged and USM would click in. But 
that creates a dilemma, since future AF bodies should or might support 
current AF lenses, you might actually have the choice to use either AF 
methods when USM lenses were mounted on USM bodies. The situation is a bit 
like digital/analog flash system. Nikon chose to integrate analog support in 
digital flashes while Pentax chose to integrate analog support in AF digital 
bodies. However, if Pentax would ever release USM lenses, it would be highly 
likely to follow what Nikon did - USM lenses must be used on newer bodies 
which support both AF method.

regards,
Alan Chan

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Re: On USM and KAF2/KAF3 (was Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-13 Thread Mark Roberts
gfen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Is it then possible that USM lenses will be AF backwards compatable with
>any body that doesn't not support KAF3?

It's certainly technically possible, but the real question is whether
it's economically practical. You'd have to have both conventional and
USM focusing systems in the lens and have a mechanism that disconnects
the conventional drive mechanism when it detects power at the power
zoom/USM contacts. This would increase the price beyond what USM in
itself would add. 

I suppose a manual select switch would also work but it seems inelegant
and would be annoying for those who have an AF body with the KAF3 mount
and one with KAF2 and used the same lens with both. Automatic detection
and switching seems the way to go and it might just be too costly except
on big dollar lenses.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com




Re: On USM and KAF2/KAF3 (was Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-13 Thread Pål Jensen

> Is it then possible that USM lenses will be AF backwards compatable with
> any body that doesn't not support KAF3? 

I guess everything is possible but it is highly unlikely.

Pål