Re: PAW: Shattuck Avenue
At 09:30 PM 3/5/2004, you wrote: Here's where the guy is sitting, taken from across the street: http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/shattuck2.jpg Glad to know that my memory hasn't started to fail me yet. That's the place as I recall it. Pat in SF
Re: PAW: Shattuck Avenue
At 06:38 PM 3/6/2004, Shel wrote: Wll, the pic is telling a story, but just a different one than one of social commentary. Look at the shops across the street. Notice their names ... maybe it's all to subtle... Hmm, the message I'm getting is the Quality Photo Lab is closed locked up while everyone is hanging out at the Games of Berkeley store. What kind of commentary regarding photo developing can one draw from this? Pat in SF
Re: PAW: Shattuck Avenue
Hi! He's gonna miss his green bus. How blue. Boris
Re: PAW: Shattuck Avenue
Hi Frank ... Wll, the pic is telling a story, but just a different one than one of social commentary. Look at the shops across the street. Notice their names ... maybe it's all to subtle ... iac, I had some fun making your brain hurt. shel frank theriault wrote: I don't think the experiment failed at all, Shel. It made me think (although now my brain hurts g). I couldn't figure it out, but it made me think! It's just that when you look at a photo that you know has been taken by a storyteller (photographically speaking, of course), and it seems not to say much (relative to his other images), it gives one pause. Which this did. Interesting concept...
Re: PAW: Shattuck Avenue
http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/shattuck1.html frank theriault wrote: Damn, damn, damn, I deleted the original post. Could you send me the url again, Shel? Wll, the pic is telling a story, but just a different one than one of social commentary. Look at the shops across the street. Notice their names ... maybe it's all to subtle ... iac, I had some fun making your brain hurt.
Re: PAW: Shattuck Avenue
In a message dated 3/4/2004 8:15:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As a pure composition (I don't know how better to put it), it's interesting. The shape of his dark jacket against the brighter background, heavy at the bottom of the frame, lighter at the top. As a human photograph, I'm not so sure. I'm guessing he's sleeping, due to the way he's slumped over, but what's he all about? What's the photo all about? It really doesn't say much to me - but maybe that's the point? I purposely typed this before going to look at the other critiques. I'll be interested to see what they said, and how you responded. I just don't know how to take this... vbg cheers, frank He's not real, frank. Shel constructed him. Maybe. Or maybe someone else did. That is my educated guess, anyway. Look at where the guy meets the brick. I could be totally wrong. But we shall see. Later, Marnie aka Doe
Re: PAW: Shattuck Avenue
LOL You got the location right ... ;-)) P Kong wrote: At 10:43 AM 3/4/2004, Shel wrote: Just a little experiment on a couple of levels ... http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/shattuck1.html comments, as always, welcome ... Let me guess... Shattuck Allston? A block or so either side of Center Street?
Re: PAW: Shattuck Avenue
You're right, it was a tight framing. The pic is uncropped. Here's where the guy is sitting, taken from across the street: http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/shattuck2.jpg There are a few other shots from closer perspectives. I only wish I knew what I was doing with the digicam then. These were all med rez JPEGS. Had I known then what I know now, they'd have been large TIFFS. Oh well ;-)) shel P Kong wrote: Marnie wrote: He's not real, frank. Shel constructed him. Maybe. Or maybe someone else did. That is my educated guess, anyway. Look at where the guy meets the brick. I could be totally wrong. But we shall see. About where the guy meets the brick, you'd have to know how tightly Shel has cropped this shot. If memory serves me right, the fellow is snoozing on a bench that backs up against a low brick wall that's part of the entrance to the subway station. It just so happens that the side walk is also lined by bricks. Shel, let me know if I'm giving too much of your location away. It was a frequent part of my life for a while. Pat in SF
Re: PAW: Shattuck Avenue
In a message dated 3/4/2004 10:56:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Once again a technical masterpiece. I don't get what your trying to say though. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Just a little experiment on a couple of levels ... http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/shattuck1.html comments, as always, welcome ... What he said, but I need more neck or something. Maybe. Not positive. A little less abstract on the person maybe. I mean I like the abstractness of it, but I had to look at it a bit, or more than a bit to get it was a person. I might want more character in the person, looks like they had a nice, weathered, wrinkly neck. Not sure. How's that for clear feedback? I like it. Marnie aka Doe That's better.
Re: PAW: Shattuck Avenue
Umm, how can you see the fellow's neck? It's covered with a scarf. There's more to see in the pic than the person in the foreground. Glad you like it, though ;-)) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a little experiment on a couple of levels ... http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/shattuck1.html What he said, but I need more neck or something. Maybe. Not positive. A little less abstract on the person maybe. I mean I like the abstractness of it, but I had to look at it a bit, or more than a bit to get it was a person. I might want more character in the person, looks like they had a nice, weathered, wrinkly neck. Not sure. How's that for clear feedback? I like it.
Re: PAW: Shattuck Avenue
Perhaps what I'm trying to say is too deep or abstract, perhaps I'm not trying to say anything, perhaps ... Look deep into the photograph, look at all the elements, the smallest detail ... perhaps something will strike you ... perhaps ... shel (now you've got me wondering) Peter J. Alling wrote: Once again a technical masterpiece. I don't get what your trying to say though. Just a little experiment on a couple of levels ... http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/shattuck1.html
Re: PAW: Shattuck Avenue
In a message dated 3/4/2004 11:51:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Umm, how can you see the fellow's neck? It's covered with a scarf. There's more to see in the pic than the person in the foreground. Glad you like it, though ;-)) I have a good imagination. :-) I think a little skin near the hair is what I was looking for. Marnie aka Doe Hehehehe. The viewer does bring themselves to the photo.
Re: PAW: Shattuck Avenue
At 10:43 AM 3/4/2004, Shel wrote: Just a little experiment on a couple of levels ... http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/shattuck1.html comments, as always, welcome ... Let me guess... Shattuck Allston? A block or so either side of Center Street? Both the guy and the photo lab across the street are snoozing in this shot. Pat in SF
RE: PAW: Shattuck Avenue
As a pure composition (I don't know how better to put it), it's interesting. The shape of his dark jacket against the brighter background, heavy at the bottom of the frame, lighter at the top. As a human photograph, I'm not so sure. I'm guessing he's sleeping, due to the way he's slumped over, but what's he all about? What's the photo all about? It really doesn't say much to me - but maybe that's the point? I purposely typed this before going to look at the other critiques. I'll be interested to see what they said, and how you responded. I just don't know how to take this... vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW: Shattuck Avenue Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 10:43:10 -0800 Just a little experiment on a couple of levels ... http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/shattuck1.html comments, as always, welcome ... _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
