Re: PAW: sparrows

2004-03-15 Thread Herb Chong
they weren't making a lot of sounds when i was watching them. i'm still
learning about birding, so i would have to sit and study them as opposed to
concentrating on taking the photos. it took about an hour of standing beside
the car before they got comfortable enough to come as close as they did.
staying in the car, they would have been on the wrong end of the car, out
the back and i wouldn't have been able to see them much.

tripod - Gitzo 1325 CF with the 1377M ball head and dovetail QR adapter for
my Arca Swiss lens plate. the combination is about the right size. i
wouldn't go any heavier in load without attaching a stablizing weight to the
center column. the ball head had its tension up but not locked so i could
move it fairly quickly but it would stay more or less where i let go of it.
i think a Wimberly would make things a lot easier.

Herb...
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From: "Mark Cassino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 8:57 AM
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> Nice shots, Herb - they do look like song sparrows.  Did they say "maids
> maids put on your tea kettle kettle" ?
>
> Tripod or bean bag? Or hand held?




Re: PAW: sparrows

2004-03-15 Thread Herb Chong
several reasons for the softness: lens isn't super sharp, 2X extender makes
it worse, shooting wide open is worse, and 1/500s shutter speed, even on a
good tripod, is marginal at that much magnification when you have to be
holding the camera and aiming it. the ball head couldn't be tight as i had
to track the rapidly moving birds. mostly though, i think it is the
converter.

Herb
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From: "Boros Attila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 3:56 AM
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> I like that shot very much! However it is not crisp sharp, I think
> that doesn't hurt, on the contrary, it accentuates the warm feeling of
> the nest. Big kudos for that shot!




Re: PAW: sparrows

2004-03-15 Thread Boros Attila
Hello Herb,

I like that shot very much! However it is not crisp sharp, I think
that doesn't hurt, on the contrary, it accentuates the warm feeling of
the nest. Big kudos for that shot!

Sunday, March 14, 2004, 8:51:38 PM, you wrote:

HC> taken on the *istD with a Sigma 50-500 and Sigma 2X extender at 500mm wide
HC> open and then cropped to the 50% center portion. equivalent FOV to a 1500mm
HC> lens on a 35mm film body.
Man, I can only dream of something like that equipment...

Attila




Re: PAW: sparrows

2004-03-14 Thread Herb Chong
worse, much worse.

Herb...
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From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:38 PM
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> It's sharp enough to be usefull in the centre but the strange bokeh and
> deterioration of contrast towards the edges is distracting, what did it
look
> beyond the area that we can see?




Re: PAW: sparrows

2004-03-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Mar 2004 at 13:51, Herb Chong wrote:

> i believe these are Song Sparrows, common throughout the US and Canada. they are
> very variable so the birds markings don't exactly match any of the recognition
> pictures i have, but they are close.
> 
> http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/temp/
> 
> taken on the *istD with a Sigma 50-500 and Sigma 2X extender at 500mm wide
> open and then cropped to the 50% center portion. equivalent FOV to a 1500mm lens
> on a 35mm film body.
useful
Hi Herb,

It's sharp enough to be usefull in the centre but the strange bokeh and 
deterioration of contrast towards the edges is distracting, what did it look 
beyond the area that we can see?

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
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Re: PAW: sparrows

2004-03-14 Thread brooksdj
Nice shot Herb.Good colours and clarity for a "" un "" 1500

Dave 

> i believe these are Song Sparrows, common throughout 
the US and Canada. they
> are very variable so the birds markings don't exactly match any of the
> recognition pictures i have, but they are close.
> 
> http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/temp/
> 
> taken on the *istD with a Sigma 50-500 and Sigma 2X extender at 500mm wide
> open and then cropped to the 50% center portion. equivalent FOV to a 1500mm
> lens on a 35mm film body.
> 
> Herb...
> 
> 






Re: PAW: sparrows

2004-03-14 Thread Herb Chong
1500mm lens FOV though. 3000mm final. imagine carrying that one around.

Herb...
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From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 2:21 PM
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> Hi!
>
> I am half mathematician by education. So here is my math:
>
> Sigma 50-500 at 500 mm plus Sigma 2x extender = 1000 mm. Crop of 50%
> center portion means like 2x more = 2000 mm. Roughly 1.5 *istD factor
> = 3000 mm
>
> HC> taken on the *istD with a Sigma 50-500 and Sigma 2X extender at 500mm
wide
> HC> open and then cropped to the 50% center portion. equivalent FOV to a
1500mm
> HC> lens on a 35mm film body.
>
> Right?




Re: PAW: sparrows

2004-03-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

I am half mathematician by education. So here is my math:

Sigma 50-500 at 500 mm plus Sigma 2x extender = 1000 mm. Crop of 50%
center portion means like 2x more = 2000 mm. Roughly 1.5 *istD factor
= 3000 mm

HC> taken on the *istD with a Sigma 50-500 and Sigma 2X extender at 500mm wide
HC> open and then cropped to the 50% center portion. equivalent FOV to a 1500mm
HC> lens on a 35mm film body.

Right?

Boris