Re: Paw: Another Lighthouse (was Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick))
Thanks, Bruce. Jostein - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:35 PM Subject: Re: Paw: Another Lighthouse (was Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick)) This, I like, very much! Great shot. Wonderful mood. Bruce Thursday, March 18, 2004, 12:06:31 PM, you wrote: J All this talk about lighthouses and recent interest in panorama shots made J me look into my archives for one particular pano of a lighthouse. I J upsampled it, and printed it out on roll-paper with my Epson 890 to 20x55 J cm. Since the original was a cropped 35mm slide, I didn't expect it to turn J out more than half decent, but it came out very nice. Maybe photoshop CS is J better at upsampling than it's predecessor, I don't know... Here's a J web-version, 800 pixels wide: J http://home.online.no/~jooksne/paw/paw2.html J It's an image I'm very fond of myself, but I know others don't see as much J in it as I do. I may have posted it here earlier, so bear with me if you J have seen it before. J Cheers, J Jostein
Re: Paw: Another Lighthouse (was Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick))
Hi! J It's an image I'm very fond of myself, but I know others don't see as much J in it as I do. I may have posted it here earlier, so bear with me if you J have seen it before. Indeed you should be. The only thing I can rant about is that it is a cropped slide rather than true panorama image shot with true panorama camera, such as H'Blad Xpan... Thanks for sharing. Boris
RE: Another Lighthouse (was Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick))
Brilliant photograph, Jostien. My favorite kind. All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. marts 2004 21:07 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Paw: Another Lighthouse (was Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick)) I think the originally posted PAW is the best lighthouse shot so far. It was a bit dark, but it conveyed a certain mood of bad weather brooding. Even with the half frozen water in the foreground. And that's when a lighthouse really shines, after all. Uh. Pun half-intended, I guess. All this talk about lighthouses and recent interest in panorama shots made me look into my archives for one particular pano of a lighthouse. I upsampled it, and printed it out on roll-paper with my Epson 890 to 20x55 cm. Since the original was a cropped 35mm slide, I didn't expect it to turn out more than half decent, but it came out very nice. Maybe photoshop CS is better at upsampling than it's predecessor, I don't know... Here's a web-version, 800 pixels wide: http://home.online.no/~jooksne/paw/paw2.html It's an image I'm very fond of myself, but I know others don't see as much in it as I do. I may have posted it here earlier, so bear with me if you have seen it before. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:35 PM Subject: Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick) Just for you Frank, a few more lighthouse photos... The first is from St. Simions island of the coast of Georgia USA http://www.mindspring.com/~palling/photography/gallery4/Wall3.html The second is a small Light of a style that's ubiquitous in the US from the Florida Keys http://www.mindspring.com/~palling/photography/gallery6/Wall1.html The last it the Saybrook light from the closest accessible land approach, http://www.mindspring.com/~palling/photography/gallery9/Wall2.html
Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick)
frank theriault wrote: Snip I meant to ask you in my previous post, where exactly is this Saybrook Point? Is the Borough of Fenwick in Mass, or am I way off base, here? The Borough of Fenwick is part of Old Saybrook CT. There are three things about it that make it interesting. 1.) Katheryn Hepburn inherited a beach cottage there and made it her primary home for at least 40 years. Katy's dead now but I've still had a tourist or two ask how to find her house while I've been in the area, I must look like a local... 2.) The Borough is one of only a couple using that form of Government in Connecticut, it's mostly made up of private roads, and a Golf Course. The light is inaccessible from land due to that fact. (The sign on the road indicates only residents and lighthouse personnel are allowed access. 3.) It's at the mouth of the Connecticut river, the only major river on the east coast of the United States, probably North America without a major deep water port. It makes the river relatively pristine, (the Bald Eagle capital of New England). cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick)
Just for you Frank, a few more lighthouse photos... The first is from St. Simions island of the coast of Georgia USA http://www.mindspring.com/~palling/photography/gallery4/Wall3.html The second is a small Light of a style that's ubiquitous in the US from the Florida Keys http://www.mindspring.com/~palling/photography/gallery6/Wall1.html The last it the Saybrook light from the closest accessible land approach, http://www.mindspring.com/~palling/photography/gallery9/Wall2.html
Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick)
Hi! On my screen I see two odd patches of yellow/purple above the buildings... I have only one feeling about this image. It looks like it was shot from a very well heated room, probably with fireplace, just before commencing to listening to one' favorite music with shot of whisky in hand. It is cold, and winterly, and ... it tilts to the left just a little bit. Just my cents... Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Paw: Another Lighthouse (was Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick))
I think the originally posted PAW is the best lighthouse shot so far. It was a bit dark, but it conveyed a certain mood of bad weather brooding. Even with the half frozen water in the foreground. And that's when a lighthouse really shines, after all. Uh. Pun half-intended, I guess. All this talk about lighthouses and recent interest in panorama shots made me look into my archives for one particular pano of a lighthouse. I upsampled it, and printed it out on roll-paper with my Epson 890 to 20x55 cm. Since the original was a cropped 35mm slide, I didn't expect it to turn out more than half decent, but it came out very nice. Maybe photoshop CS is better at upsampling than it's predecessor, I don't know... Here's a web-version, 800 pixels wide: http://home.online.no/~jooksne/paw/paw2.html It's an image I'm very fond of myself, but I know others don't see as much in it as I do. I may have posted it here earlier, so bear with me if you have seen it before. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:35 PM Subject: Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick) Just for you Frank, a few more lighthouse photos... The first is from St. Simions island of the coast of Georgia USA http://www.mindspring.com/~palling/photography/gallery4/Wall3.html The second is a small Light of a style that's ubiquitous in the US from the Florida Keys http://www.mindspring.com/~palling/photography/gallery6/Wall1.html The last it the Saybrook light from the closest accessible land approach, http://www.mindspring.com/~palling/photography/gallery9/Wall2.html
Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick)
Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! On my screen I see two odd patches of yellow/purple above the buildings... I have only one feeling about this image. It looks like it was shot from a very well heated room, probably with fireplace, just before I wish, it was shot from a bridge on a causeway over frozen salt, well at least brackish water, and it was cold... commencing to listening to one' favorite music with shot of whisky in hand. It is cold, and winterly, and ... it tilts to the left just a little bit. Just my cents... Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Paw: Another Lighthouse (was Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick))
This, I like, very much! Great shot. Wonderful mood. Bruce Thursday, March 18, 2004, 12:06:31 PM, you wrote: J All this talk about lighthouses and recent interest in panorama shots made J me look into my archives for one particular pano of a lighthouse. I J upsampled it, and printed it out on roll-paper with my Epson 890 to 20x55 J cm. Since the original was a cropped 35mm slide, I didn't expect it to turn J out more than half decent, but it came out very nice. Maybe photoshop CS is J better at upsampling than it's predecessor, I don't know... Here's a J web-version, 800 pixels wide: J http://home.online.no/~jooksne/paw/paw2.html J It's an image I'm very fond of myself, but I know others don't see as much J in it as I do. I may have posted it here earlier, so bear with me if you J have seen it before. J Cheers, J Jostein
Re: Paw: Another Lighthouse (was Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick))
I like your shot, good subject matter, nice composition, smooth gradations of tone, much better than mine in that respect, either you have a much better scanner or a much better exposure, on top of everything else. Jostein wrote: I think the originally posted PAW is the best lighthouse shot so far. It was a bit dark, but it conveyed a certain mood of bad weather brooding. Even with the half frozen water in the foreground. And that's when a lighthouse really shines, after all. Uh. Pun half-intended, I guess. All this talk about lighthouses and recent interest in panorama shots made me look into my archives for one particular pano of a lighthouse. I upsampled it, and printed it out on roll-paper with my Epson 890 to 20x55 cm. Since the original was a cropped 35mm slide, I didn't expect it to turn out more than half decent, but it came out very nice. Maybe photoshop CS is better at upsampling than it's predecessor, I don't know... Here's a web-version, 800 pixels wide: http://home.online.no/~jooksne/paw/paw2.html It's an image I'm very fond of myself, but I know others don't see as much in it as I do. I may have posted it here earlier, so bear with me if you have seen it before. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:35 PM Subject: Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick) Just for you Frank, a few more lighthouse photos... The first is from St. Simions island of the coast of Georgia USA http://www.mindspring.com/~palling/photography/gallery4/Wall3.html The second is a small Light of a style that's ubiquitous in the US from the Florida Keys http://www.mindspring.com/~palling/photography/gallery6/Wall1.html The last it the Saybrook light from the closest accessible land approach, http://www.mindspring.com/~palling/photography/gallery9/Wall2.html
Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick)
Hello Peter, I just logged on and was greeted by your PAW for this week. I'm not sure I'd have taken a picture of that scene as it strikes me as rather plain. However, there's a reason for that ... the lighting. It seems that you missed magic hour by a bit. The peak of magic hour is really only about ten or fifteen minutes long, and there's about a half hour or so before the peak when the light is great. It's warm, it's bright enough to allow the rendering of shadow details and provide for subtle color differences. I believe this photo suffers from being shot too late. The sky has no character, no luminescence, and the water appears murky, rather than alive and reflecting the colors of an earlier sky. There aren't enough lights on in the buildings to make up for that lack ... lights in windows around dusk can add a very warm and welcome feel to photos taken at such times. Then there's that vertical object on the (viewer's) left. It's a distraction in such a scene. Here you are, making a photo of a bucolic, traditional lighthouse scene, and there's this obtrusive element in the way, vying for attention, and, in this case, getting it. The framing seems poor, but not knowing what's on the right, it may have been the best you could have done. Still, had there been some space along that side of the image such that the building wouldn't bleed off the edge, the composition may have been improved quite a bit. And, had it been possible to make that correction, the that other thing on the left may have been left outside the frame. I give you credit for being able to hand hold a 400mm lens so well. Shel Peter J. Alling wrote: Once again I'm opening myself to criticism comments and possible ridicule. Taken at dusk a couple of weeks ago 400mm lens hand held. Forget the shutter speed but it was long. http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PAW_--_LightAtSaybrookPoint.html
Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick)
I have to agree with most of what you say. I did arrive late which leads to most of the perceived problems. The water lacks life because most of it is frozen. Thanks for the comments I've been thinking of going back and trying again. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hello Peter, I just logged on and was greeted by your PAW for this week. I'm not sure I'd have taken a picture of that scene as it strikes me as rather plain. However, there's a reason for that ... the lighting. It seems that you missed magic hour by a bit. The peak of magic hour is really only about ten or fifteen minutes long, and there's about a half hour or so before the peak when the light is great. It's warm, it's bright enough to allow the rendering of shadow details and provide for subtle color differences. I believe this photo suffers from being shot too late. The sky has no character, no luminescence, and the water appears murky, rather than alive and reflecting the colors of an earlier sky. There aren't enough lights on in the buildings to make up for that lack ... lights in windows around dusk can add a very warm and welcome feel to photos taken at such times. Then there's that vertical object on the (viewer's) left. It's a distraction in such a scene. Here you are, making a photo of a bucolic, traditional lighthouse scene, and there's this obtrusive element in the way, vying for attention, and, in this case, getting it. The framing seems poor, but not knowing what's on the right, it may have been the best you could have done. Still, had there been some space along that side of the image such that the building wouldn't bleed off the edge, the composition may have been improved quite a bit. And, had it been possible to make that correction, the that other thing on the left may have been left outside the frame. I give you credit for being able to hand hold a 400mm lens so well. Shel Peter J. Alling wrote: Once again I'm opening myself to criticism comments and possible ridicule. Taken at dusk a couple of weeks ago 400mm lens hand held. Forget the shutter speed but it was long. http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PAW_--_LightAtSaybrookPoint.html
Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick)
Pah! Don't listen to Shel, Peter. Any bozo can take a pretty post card picture when the light is great. However it takes a special kind of bozo to make a photo work when the light's a bit different. I have no idea why I'm in such an irreverant mood tonight, so you'll all have to bear with me (more so than usual). And, of course, I'm just joking with Shel. You should always listen to Shel; even if one doesn't agree with him, he always has something of value to say. Well, mostly, anyway... g But, I mean it when I say that I like the fact that you tried something different. You tried working with very difficult lighting. I think it worked. It sure doesn't look like most lighthouse shots. And, there's nothing wrong with avoiding cliches - especially if it works, as I (at least) think it did here. I meant to ask you in my previous post, where exactly is this Saybrook Point? Is the Borough of Fenwick in Mass, or am I way off base, here? cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PAW -- The Light at Saybrook Point (Burough of Fenwick) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:06:56 -0500 I have to agree with most of what you say. I did arrive late which leads to most of the perceived problems. The water lacks life because most of it is frozen. Thanks for the comments I've been thinking of going back and trying again. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hello Peter, I just logged on and was greeted by your PAW for this week. I'm not sure I'd have taken a picture of that scene as it strikes me as rather plain. However, there's a reason for that ... the lighting. It seems that you missed magic hour by a bit. The peak of magic hour is really only about ten or fifteen minutes long, and there's about a half hour or so before the peak when the light is great. It's warm, it's bright enough to allow the rendering of shadow details and provide for subtle color differences. I believe this photo suffers from being shot too late. The sky has no character, no luminescence, and the water appears murky, rather than alive and reflecting the colors of an earlier sky. There aren't enough lights on in the buildings to make up for that lack ... lights in windows around dusk can add a very warm and welcome feel to photos taken at such times. Then there's that vertical object on the (viewer's) left. It's a distraction in such a scene. Here you are, making a photo of a bucolic, traditional lighthouse scene, and there's this obtrusive element in the way, vying for attention, and, in this case, getting it. The framing seems poor, but not knowing what's on the right, it may have been the best you could have done. Still, had there been some space along that side of the image such that the building wouldn't bleed off the edge, the composition may have been improved quite a bit. And, had it been possible to make that correction, the that other thing on the left may have been left outside the frame. I give you credit for being able to hand hold a 400mm lens so well. Shel Peter J. Alling wrote: Once again I'm opening myself to criticism comments and possible ridicule. Taken at dusk a couple of weeks ago 400mm lens hand held. Forget the shutter speed but it was long. http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PAW_--_LightAtSaybrookPoint.html _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
