Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-14 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> No one said you didn't know how.  You kept saying you didn't see it.  The
> offer to show you the shot with/without the pole was based on that.
> Sometimes when someone sees two images together the difference becomes
> noticeable.  No need to get defensive.
> 
> Shel
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Ann Sanfedele
> 
> > But the point is, if it is a street shot, I'm not going to
> > mess with it in that fashion
> > in photoshop - I don't care if you want to show us or me
> > what you did to get rid of the
> > pole totally - but I didn't _not_ do it because I didn't
> > know how.
> 
>  > > http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardtoday.jpg

I'm being defensive NOW but I wasn't then.. :)

When I said I couldn't see it I meant the AFTER shot I
made...
when you said you could still see it.  I saw it in the
before shot
but hadn't noticed it.  in the second one I literally can't
see the post
part at all..

You did sound like you were being instructive in the HOW
Shel -
there is lots i don't knwo how to do in photoshop, i was
just trying
to say that i I could have done what you said you did if i'd
wanted.

so there
a



Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
No one said you didn't know how.  You kept saying you didn't see it.  The
offer to show you the shot with/without the pole was based on that. 
Sometimes when someone sees two images together the difference becomes
noticeable.  No need to get defensive.  

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Ann Sanfedele 

> But the point is, if it is a street shot, I'm not going to
> mess with it in that fashion
> in photoshop - I don't care if you want to show us or me
> what you did to get rid of the
> pole totally - but I didn't _not_ do it because I didn't
> know how.

 > > http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardtoday.jpg




Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 2/13/2006 3:50:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]
> writes:
> > Marnie aka Doe
> 
> :) though after Doug pointed it out it suddenly got much
> larger and darker! 
> 
> ann
> ==
> Hehehehe. Yup.
> 
> Marnie aka Doe

Well, I'm glad this isn't the first thing I ever posted to
the list  -
we are spending much too much time on this snap I think! 

ann



Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Kenneth Waller wrote:
> 
> Great, now I see a tree sticking out of the head of the foreground person!!
> 
> Kenneth Waller

I'm not minding that tree - but that was what I suspected
Shel saw, instead of the
post Doug saw.

LOL!

Sorry Ken , I'm not replanting the tree :)
ann

> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )
> 
> > Doug Brewer wrote:
> >>
> >> On Feb 12, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> >>
> >> > .. on 1st ave and st marks place today
> >> >
> >> > blizzard are us
> >> >
> >> > http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardpaw.jpg
> >> >
> >> > ann
> >> >
> >>   great shot, but that sign sticking out of the top of her head is
> >> killing me.
> >
> > better?
> > http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardtoday.jpg
> >
> > but now it is blizzard yestrday :)
> >



Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-13 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/13/2006 3:50:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
writes:
> Marnie aka Doe

:) though after Doug pointed it out it suddenly got much
larger and darker! 

ann
==
Hehehehe. Yup.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 2/13/2006 12:50:11 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> here is the original
> http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardpaw.jpg
> 
> ann
> off to walk in the snow to the store
> -
> Yup, big difference. Thought you had lightened the pole, but wasn't sure.
> 
> Now it lays flat and stays in the background.
> 
Yes - tahts what  felt.


> Although, like you, I gotta admit I didn't notice it the first time around.
> :-)
> 
> Marnie aka Doe

:) though after Doug pointed it out it suddenly got much
larger and darker! 

ann



Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> No,  it is the pole and the sign I see.  I put the pic in Photoshop and
> blew it up 200% to be sure.  I then went and removed the pole and sign just
> to see how difficult it would be.  The pole and the sign are quite
> noticeable to me. If you'd like a copy of what I did so you can see for
> yourself, just say the word.
> 
> The removal technique was quite simple, mostly using the clone stamp,
> although with a few extra fillips to make the removal more precise as I can
> be rather clumsy sometimes if I'm not careful.
> 
> Why didn't you want to remove it completely?
> 
> Shel

I can't see the pole at all in the second shot looking at it
on the web.  ... but I like the red sign,
the red in the stop sign, the restaurant sign, the guy's
pants, etc... so the top of
the sign I wouldn't want removed.  There is a little pattern
of color there of red's and yellows I like. 

I tried to make it just look like there was snow clinging to
the pole.  I would never completely
remove something that was actually there all the time.. on
principle.  For me, I was just using the shot to say "Hey
guys, look at all that snow in my 'hood! - and look at that
jerk riding a bicycle in it.

I saw the guy on the bike just a couple of secs before I
snapped... the woman wasn't part of the plan - but when I
saw it I liked the relationship of forms.  

although I did hold the camera up to my face, I couldnt see
what I was doing through the
view finder and I had an armful of groceries...  

Anyway, Where is Doug :)

Haven't had a chance to review anything else I took, really 
- I have one I took from my window
but I'm not pleased with it.  

But the point is, if it is a street shot, I'm not going to
mess with it in that fashion
in photoshop - I don't care if you want to show us or me
what you did to get rid of the
pole totally - but I didn't _not_ do it because I didn't
know how.

ann








> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Date: 2/13/2006 12:49:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )
> >
> > Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > >
> > > Not really ... I can still see the sign and the pole.  What did you do?
> > >
> > > Shel
> >





> > I lighted the pole - on my screen, it is very faint - I
> > didn't want to remove it
> > all together... is it possible what you are seeing as the
> > pole is the tree?
> >
> > ann
> >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Ann Sanfedele
> > >
> > > > >   great shot, but that sign sticking out of the top of her
> > > > > head is killing me.
> > > >
> > > > better?
> > > > http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardtoday.jpg



Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-13 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/13/2006 3:41:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Great, now I see a tree sticking out of the head of the foreground person!!

Kenneth Waller
=
This reminds me of the chair leg (or chair legs).

Don't think you can win, ann.

Marnie aka Doe :-)



Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-13 Thread Kenneth Waller

Great, now I see a tree sticking out of the head of the foreground person!!

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )



Doug Brewer wrote:


On Feb 12, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> .. on 1st ave and st marks place today
>
> blizzard are us
>
> http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardpaw.jpg
>
> ann
>
  great shot, but that sign sticking out of the top of her head is
killing me.


better?
http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardtoday.jpg

but now it is blizzard yestrday :)





Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-13 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/13/2006 12:50:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
here is the original
http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardpaw.jpg

ann
off to walk in the snow to the store
-
Yup, big difference. Thought you had lightened the pole, but wasn't sure.

Now it lays flat and stays in the background.

Although, like you, I gotta admit I didn't notice it the first time around. 
:-)

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
No,  it is the pole and the sign I see.  I put the pic in Photoshop and
blew it up 200% to be sure.  I then went and removed the pole and sign just
to see how difficult it would be.  The pole and the sign are quite
noticeable to me. If you'd like a copy of what I did so you can see for
yourself, just say the word.

The removal technique was quite simple, mostly using the clone stamp,
although with a few extra fillips to make the removal more precise as I can
be rather clumsy sometimes if I'm not careful.

Why didn't you want to remove it completely?

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Date: 2/13/2006 12:49:38 PM
> Subject: Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > 
> > Not really ... I can still see the sign and the pole.  What did you do?
> > 
> > Shel
>
> I lighted the pole - on my screen, it is very faint - I
> didn't want to remove it
> all together... is it possible what you are seeing as the
> pole is the tree?
>
> ann
>
> > 
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Ann Sanfedele
> > 
> > > >   great shot, but that sign sticking out of the top of her
> > > > head is killing me.
> > >
> > > better?
> > > http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardtoday.jpg




Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Ann Sanfedele
> 
> > >   great shot, but that sign sticking out of the top of her
> > > head is killing me.
> >
> > better?
> > http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardtoday.jpg
> 
> Seems to be. But I'd have to compare it to the original.
> 
> Marnie aka Doe

here is the original
http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardpaw.jpg

ann
off to walk in the snow to the store



Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> Not really ... I can still see the sign and the pole.  What did you do?
> 
> Shel

I lighted the pole - on my screen, it is very faint - I
didn't want to remove it
all together... is it possible what you are seeing as the
pole is the tree?

ann

> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Ann Sanfedele
> 
> > >   great shot, but that sign sticking out of the top of her
> > > head is killing me.
> >
> > better?
> > http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardtoday.jpg



Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-13 Thread Eactivist
> [Original Message]
> From: Ann Sanfedele 

> >   great shot, but that sign sticking out of the top of her 
> > head is killing me.
>
> better?
> http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardtoday.jpg

Seems to be. But I'd have to compare it to the original.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Not really ... I can still see the sign and the pole.  What did you do?

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Ann Sanfedele 

> >   great shot, but that sign sticking out of the top of her 
> > head is killing me.
>
> better?
> http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardtoday.jpg




Re: PESO: around the corner (revised for doug:) )

2006-02-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Doug Brewer wrote:
> 
> On Feb 12, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> > .. on 1st ave and st marks place today
> >
> > blizzard are us
> >
> > http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardpaw.jpg
> >
> > ann
> >
>   great shot, but that sign sticking out of the top of her head is
> killing me.

better?
http://users.rcn.com/annsan/blizzardtoday.jpg

but now it is blizzard yestrday :)