Re: PESO - Cool Jazz
I like the composition, and in a web size the shot appears to be relatively sharp. My biggest nit is the burned out highlight on his hand and jacket. A stop less exposure overall would solve this and make the shot more dramatic IMO. You might try scanning the negative and see if there's enough detail in that area to pull it out. Paul -- Original message -- From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I suppose it's a bit unseemly for me to make comment (or am I making > excuses) about a photo that I'm posting, but I'll do it anyway. > > I know this isn't terribly sharp, as it was handheld about about > 1/15th or 1/30th, aperture wide-open, and I think I missed the focus a > bit. The lighting with the spot on Tim the trumpet player was tough. > Still, there's a dynamic I like about this one. Not one of my best, > but not one of my worst, either: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4221415&size=lg > > I'd be interested in knowing if you think the obvious technical > deficiencies are overcome by the image itself. Thanks for commenting. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >
Re: PESO - Cool Jazz
frank theriault wrote: I suppose it's a bit unseemly for me to make comment (or am I making excuses) about a photo that I'm posting, but I'll do it anyway. I know this isn't terribly sharp, as it was handheld about about 1/15th or 1/30th, aperture wide-open, and I think I missed the focus a bit. The lighting with the spot on Tim the trumpet player was tough. Still, there's a dynamic I like about this one. Not one of my best, but not one of my worst, either: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4221415&size=lg I'd be interested in knowing if you think the obvious technical deficiencies are overcome by the image itself. Thanks for commenting. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson I'd say the technical issues are overcome by the image, which is excellent. Of course, concert photography is often a wee bit soft, so the issues are to be expected. -Adam
Re: PESO - Cool Jazz
It's a good shot. My only comment is the scan probably isn't doing the print justice. Dave On 3/15/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suppose it's a bit unseemly for me to make comment (or am I making > excuses) about a photo that I'm posting, but I'll do it anyway. > > I know this isn't terribly sharp, as it was handheld about about > 1/15th or 1/30th, aperture wide-open, and I think I missed the focus a > bit. The lighting with the spot on Tim the trumpet player was tough. > Still, there's a dynamic I like about this one. Not one of my best, > but not one of my worst, either: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4221415&size=lg > > I'd be interested in knowing if you think the obvious technical > deficiencies are overcome by the image itself. Thanks for commenting. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > >
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> > From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/03/15 Wed PM 03:08:01 GMT > To: PDML > Subject: PESO - Cool Jazz > > I suppose it's a bit unseemly for me to make comment (or am I making > excuses) about a photo that I'm posting, but I'll do it anyway. > > I know this isn't terribly sharp, as it was handheld about about > 1/15th or 1/30th, aperture wide-open, and I think I missed the focus a > bit. The lighting with the spot on Tim the trumpet player was tough. > Still, there's a dynamic I like about this one. Not one of my best, > but not one of my worst, either: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4221415&size=lg > > I'd be interested in knowing if you think the obvious technical > deficiencies are overcome by the image itself. Thanks for commenting. > > cheers, > frank Assuming the print is not quite so blown out on his right hand, yes. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
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I don't think I'd have noticed the softness in this image. I feel it may add to the mood. I like it, for whatever reason. An LX shutter would have probably interrupted the music. ;-) Jack --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suppose it's a bit unseemly for me to make comment (or am I making > excuses) about a photo that I'm posting, but I'll do it anyway. > > I know this isn't terribly sharp, as it was handheld about about > 1/15th or 1/30th, aperture wide-open, and I think I missed the focus > a > bit. The lighting with the spot on Tim the trumpet player was tough. > > Still, there's a dynamic I like about this one. Not one of my best, > but not one of my worst, either: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4221415&size=lg > > I'd be interested in knowing if you think the obvious technical > deficiencies are overcome by the image itself. Thanks for > commenting. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - Cool Jazz
On 3/15/06, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think I'd have noticed the softness in this image. I feel it > may add to the mood. I like it, for whatever reason. > An LX shutter would have probably interrupted the music. ;-) > Ker-Chunk!! Thanks, Jack, and everyone else who's commented so far. Yes, the blown out hand is problematic, and the print is not as bad as the scan. I tried toning it down a bit, I found that if I "burned" it much more than it is now, it looked too grey and unnatural. I'm sure I could do a better job if I knew PS better, but as Shel once said, my skills in PS are rather primitive (or did he say naive, or maybe both ). Thanks all for your input. The print will be at GFM for viewing and comments. -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO - Cool Jazz
Lots of technical issues, but a moody and interesting photography nonetheless. There is some data in the blown out hand, so a *little* bit of recovery is possible there. The blacks are a little soft, they should be deeper. Not a lot to work with but some gentle shaping with dodge and burn would help, or a better scan. I mucked with it a little bit: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/4221415-lgg.jpg Godfrey On Mar 15, 2006, at 7:08 AM, frank theriault wrote: I suppose it's a bit unseemly for me to make comment (or am I making excuses) about a photo that I'm posting, but I'll do it anyway. I know this isn't terribly sharp, as it was handheld about about 1/15th or 1/30th, aperture wide-open, and I think I missed the focus a bit. The lighting with the spot on Tim the trumpet player was tough. Still, there's a dynamic I like about this one. Not one of my best, but not one of my worst, either: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4221415&size=lg I'd be interested in knowing if you think the obvious technical deficiencies are overcome by the image itself. Thanks for commenting. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: PESO - Cool Jazz
There's much to like here. Composition, the pose of my name brother, he is supaah cool. I kind of like the burned out hand. It directs my eye to the most important part of frame. There is no way to miss the trumpet. All this makes the technical difficulties a non issue. There is one thing do I miss. Jazz music, not to say all music, is all about communication. Communication with the listeners and communication _within_ the band. The guitar player don't seem to listen to the solo from the trumpeter. He sits there doing his "thing". If you are a jazz man Frank, and I believe you are, you know what I mean. The communication may be there, but it is not obvious to me as a viewer. Despite my nits: It _is_ an interesting and pretty "cool" photo. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15. mars 2006 16:08 > To: PDML > Subject: PESO - Cool Jazz > > I suppose it's a bit unseemly for me to make comment (or am I making > excuses) about a photo that I'm posting, but I'll do it anyway. > > I know this isn't terribly sharp, as it was handheld about about > 1/15th or 1/30th, aperture wide-open, and I think I missed the focus a > bit. The lighting with the spot on Tim the trumpet player was tough. > Still, there's a dynamic I like about this one. Not one of my best, > but not one of my worst, either: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4221415&size=lg > > I'd be interested in knowing if you think the obvious technical > deficiencies are overcome by the image itself. Thanks for commenting. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > Lots of technical issues, but a moody and interesting photography > nonetheless. > > There is some data in the blown out hand, so a *little* bit of > recovery is possible there. The blacks are a little soft, they should > be deeper. Not a lot to work with but some gentle shaping with dodge > and burn would help, or a better scan. > > I mucked with it a little bit: > http://homepage.mac.com/godders/4221415-lgg.jpg > > Godfrey > You mucked it up good :) That worked well, Godfrey Frank - i like this one a lot, the trumpet player very strong and the pattern of all the hands. What were they playing? just curious. ann
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On 3/15/06, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mucked it up good :) > > That worked well, Godfrey > Frank - i like this one a lot, the trumpet player very > strong and the pattern > of all the hands. What were they playing? just curious. > I like Godfrey's mucking too, Ann. Thanks, Godders!! I don't remember exactly what they were playing when I took this photo, Ann, but Tim and the boys play a mostly standards, in that mid-60's Miles Davis freebop style. They're not innovative, but they play great jazz, and they play it well. Thanks for your kind comments (and thanks to everyone else, too). cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Nice! The harsh lighting works, and the guitar leads the eye to the trumpeter. His ear is in focus, it appears; the softness of the nose-trumpet plane is too subtle to matter, as long as you don't make this an 8x10! Rick --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suppose it's a bit unseemly for me to make comment > (or am I making > excuses) about a photo that I'm posting, but I'll do > it anyway. > > I know this isn't terribly sharp, as it was handheld > about about > 1/15th or 1/30th, aperture wide-open, and I think I > missed the focus a > bit. The lighting with the spot on Tim the trumpet > player was tough. > Still, there's a dynamic I like about this one. Not > one of my best, > but not one of my worst, either: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4221415&size=lg > > I'd be interested in knowing if you think the > obvious technical > deficiencies are overcome by the image itself. > Thanks for commenting. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Woohoo! Beautiful. Lots of mood here, Frank. As far as the technical stuff goes, technical schmechnical. On 3/15/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suppose it's a bit unseemly for me to make comment (or am I making > excuses) about a photo that I'm posting, but I'll do it anyway. > > I know this isn't terribly sharp, as it was handheld about about > 1/15th or 1/30th, aperture wide-open, and I think I missed the focus a > bit. The lighting with the spot on Tim the trumpet player was tough. > Still, there's a dynamic I like about this one. Not one of my best, > but not one of my worst, either: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4221415&size=lg > > I'd be interested in knowing if you think the obvious technical > deficiencies are overcome by the image itself. Thanks for commenting. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- "You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman
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Knarf, I like the image & the title. The image just exudes "Cool Jazz" Well captured. I might crop out the stuff on the wall in back of the guy on the left. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PESO - Cool Jazz I suppose it's a bit unseemly for me to make comment (or am I making excuses) about a photo that I'm posting, but I'll do it anyway. I know this isn't terribly sharp, as it was handheld about about 1/15th or 1/30th, aperture wide-open, and I think I missed the focus a bit. The lighting with the spot on Tim the trumpet player was tough. Still, there's a dynamic I like about this one. Not one of my best, but not one of my worst, either: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4221415&size=lg I'd be interested in knowing if you think the obvious technical deficiencies are overcome by the image itself. Thanks for commenting. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Hi! You mucked it up good :) That worked well, Godfrey Frank - i like this one a lot, the trumpet player very strong and the pattern of all the hands. What were they playing? just curious. I like Godfrey's mucking too, Ann. Thanks, Godders!! I don't remember exactly what they were playing when I took this photo, Ann, but Tim and the boys play a mostly standards, in that mid-60's Miles Davis freebop style. They're not innovative, but they play great jazz, and they play it well. Thanks for your kind comments (and thanks to everyone else, too). Frank, Godfrey - I think that Godfrey's version is slightly better. I guess I like it too. It has the mood. I should probably come and listen to this music as I might quite like it ;-). Boris
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Not satisfied with missed focus, Frank is now combining it with too-slow-shutterspeeds. Artsy. Grin. I like it Frank, but even though sharpness is a bullshit concept, I do wish the horn player's face was a tad sharper. I've taken plenty like this one, myself. And like you, I prefer to shoot and see what the heck happens rather than git skeered. -Lon frank theriault wrote: I suppose it's a bit unseemly for me to make comment (or am I making excuses) about a photo that I'm posting, but I'll do it anyway. I know this isn't terribly sharp, as it was handheld about about 1/15th or 1/30th, aperture wide-open, and I think I missed the focus a bit. The lighting with the spot on Tim the trumpet player was tough. Still, there's a dynamic I like about this one. Not one of my best, but not one of my worst, either: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4221415&size=lg I'd be interested in knowing if you think the obvious technical deficiencies are overcome by the image itself. Thanks for commenting.
