Re: PESO - The Wave (Revisited)
In a message dated 6/6/2007 2:56:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, The problem is that the advancing wave of houses is the subject, but they don't stand out in the photo. Especially in #3, they lose to the mountains and dramatic sky. Nice pix, but they aren't doing the job you want them to, IMHO. Rick == Well, actually, I meant the advancing fog wave. :-) Which is a bit visible behind the houses. I think it works well enough, Rick, and I have other shots of other things. Thanks for looking. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - The Wave (Revisited)
You're going to hate me but I kind of like the sky in wavebold, the forground in wavemild and the houses in wavecolor... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I did the layer and mask thing. But note my selection lines may show here and there, I will have smudge and blur and clone the edges so they are not so visible. For those of you that have seen it before, uh, it looks different. Now I am thinking maybe I like the color version better, after all. The BW can look more ominous, but the color has more punch. Not sure though, so input welcome. The mild version could be anywhere between the bold version and the current mild version. I kept playing with the mild one and this particular one might not be the most optimal. (Sky and ground are different layers, in addition to the background, with the opacity set to different standards for bold and mild.) BW Bold http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavebold.htm BW Mild http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavemild.htm BW Color http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavecolor.htm So which do you like best? Or would you rather have some variation of the mild BW? I'd really appreciate hearing. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - The Wave (Revisited)
In a message dated 6/6/2007 12:52:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're going to hate me but I kind of like the sky in wavebold, the forground in wavemild and the houses in wavecolor... Well, it's honest, even if a bit difficult (to achieve). Thanks for replying, Peter. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - The Wave (Revisited)
BW BOLD! Incidentally, the color version has an overall blue cast.(?) Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I did the layer and mask thing. But note my selection lines may show here and there, I will have smudge and blur and clone the edges so they are not so visible. For those of you that have seen it before, uh, it looks different. Now I am thinking maybe I like the color version better, after all. The BW can look more ominous, but the color has more punch. Not sure though, so input welcome. The mild version could be anywhere between the bold version and the current mild version. I kept playing with the mild one and this particular one might not be the most optimal. (Sky and ground are different layers, in addition to the background, with the opacity set to different standards for bold and mild.) BW Bold http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavebold.htm BW Mild http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavemild.htm BW Color http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavecolor.htm So which do you like best? Or would you rather have some variation of the mild BW? I'd really appreciate hearing. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - The Wave (Revisited)
In a message dated 6/6/2007 10:47:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Marnie, The bold BW is in the right direction, but you need to go further and get the whites in the houses brighter. I also like the color rendering ... reduce blues, snap it up a bit and it will be quite nice. Godfrey == Thanks, Godfrey. Well, the front was in deep shadow, and I've noticed when one uses Highlight/Shadow on color areas in deep shadow they do tend to blue. Essentially there was not a lot of color info. in that area. But point taken. Thanks for looking. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - The Wave (Revisited)
In a message dated 6/6/2007 10:36:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No contest -- the color version has much more impact mainly due to the cloud coloration. Kenneth Waller Thanks, Ken. Mainly it's leaning toward BW Bold and Color. Guess I will show in class and see how teacher and class reacts. Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - The Wave (Revisited)
Marnie, I like the Bold version best of the BWs. ;-) With the risk of adding to confusion, I think the colour shot can have even more punch if you play a little with a hue/saturation layer. Try tweaking each of the colours separately. To _really_ bring out the blue in the sky, you could increase saturation in the blues and tweak the hue of the cyans towards blue. Adding some yellow and a slight bit of red could be nice too. If you don't have the sky in a separate layer in the colour version, be careful about the grass in the foreground. There is of course a risk of cartoonizing as Wheatfield calls it. It's a nice shot to start with, and it holds potential for many different expressions. It depends on what _you_ want with it! jostein 2007/6/6, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Okay, I did the layer and mask thing. But note my selection lines may show here and there, I will have smudge and blur and clone the edges so they are not so visible. For those of you that have seen it before, uh, it looks different. Now I am thinking maybe I like the color version better, after all. The BW can look more ominous, but the color has more punch. Not sure though, so input welcome. The mild version could be anywhere between the bold version and the current mild version. I kept playing with the mild one and this particular one might not be the most optimal. (Sky and ground are different layers, in addition to the background, with the opacity set to different standards for bold and mild.) BW Bold http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavebold.htm BW Mild http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavemild.htm BW Color http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavecolor.htm So which do you like best? Or would you rather have some variation of the mild BW? I'd really appreciate hearing. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.alunfoto.no http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - The Wave (Revisited)
Add another vote for color. Too many pleasing tones there to go BW. If you wanted even more impact, you could mask off the sky and then brighten and add contrast to the foreground. Not a lot, just a touch. Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/6/2007 10:36:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No contest -- the color version has much more impact mainly due to the cloud coloration. Kenneth Waller Thanks, Ken. Mainly it's leaning toward BW Bold and Color. Guess I will show in class and see how teacher and class reacts. Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - The Wave (Revisited)
In a message dated 6/6/2007 11:08:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Add another vote for color. Too many pleasing tones there to go BW. If you wanted even more impact, you could mask off the sky and then brighten and add contrast to the foreground. Not a lot, just a touch. Paul Thanks, Paul. Probably tone down the blue too. (Yeah, it's already masked, so no big problem.) Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - The Wave (Revisited)
In a message dated 6/6/2007 11:07:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is of course a risk of cartoonizing as Wheatfield calls it. It's a nice shot to start with, and it holds potential for many different expressions. It depends on what _you_ want with it! jostein = Thanks, Jostein. I do plan to play with the color one more. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - The Wave (Revisited)
Marnie, The problem is that the advancing wave of houses is the subject, but they don't stand out in the photo. Especially in #3, they lose to the mountains and dramatic sky. Nice pix, but they aren't doing the job you want them to, IMHO. Rick --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I did the layer and mask thing. But note my selection lines may show here and there, I will have smudge and blur and clone the edges so they are not so visible. For those of you that have seen it before, uh, it looks different. Now I am thinking maybe I like the color version better, after all. The BW can look more ominous, but the color has more punch. Not sure though, so input welcome. The mild version could be anywhere between the bold version and the current mild version. I kept playing with the mild one and this particular one might not be the most optimal. (Sky and ground are different layers, in addition to the background, with the opacity set to different standards for bold and mild.) BW Bold http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavebold.htm BW Mild http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavemild.htm BW Color http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavecolor.htm So which do you like best? Or would you rather have some variation of the mild BW? I'd really appreciate hearing. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - The Wave (Revisited)
Hi Marnie, The bold BW is in the right direction, but you need to go further and get the whites in the houses brighter. I also like the color rendering ... reduce blues, snap it up a bit and it will be quite nice. Godfrey On Jun 5, 2007, at 9:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I did the layer and mask thing. But note my selection lines may show here and there, I will have smudge and blur and clone the edges so they are not so visible. For those of you that have seen it before, uh, it looks different. Now I am thinking maybe I like the color version better, after all. The BW can look more ominous, but the color has more punch. Not sure though, so input welcome. The mild version could be anywhere between the bold version and the current mild version. I kept playing with the mild one and this particular one might not be the most optimal. (Sky and ground are different layers, in addition to the background, with the opacity set to different standards for bold and mild.) BW Bold http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavebold.htm BW Mild http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavemild.htm BW Color http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavecolor.htm So which do you like best? Or would you rather have some variation of the mild BW? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
