Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
Thank you, Paul. It certainly wasn't my intention to force it into view, and the subject was fairly naturally deshabille in that posture. I'm mulling over your observation and considering what it means to my composition, framing, etc. Maybe if there was a bit more space around? I appreciate your insight! On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Paul Stenquistwrote: > Nice. Love her look. Like the nipple, but I get a sense that the photo works > too hard to reveal it. > > Paul via phone > >> On Nov 7, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Bill wrote: On 10/29/2015 7:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: This is another shot from my first work with art model Dorrie Mack, back in May. (It's actually work-safe unless you squint real hard.) https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22533038336/lightbox/ K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/100th sec, 100 ISO. One light source, daylight. I positioned her in the open mouth of a black v-flat (4x8' sheets of foam core) at right angles to the very large studio windows. Comments welcome! >>> >>> Truly she is squint worthy. >>> There is just so much goodness in this image it's hard to start. Her hair is >>> just sort of there, tousled a little bit, which I am afraid, my friend, >>> distracts greatly. But then the viewer is drawn to, and then drawn into her >>> beautiful eyes, The light is nicely directional, but just a bit too bright >>> for my taste. Tearing oneself reluctantly away from her eyes, the viewer >>> glides languorously down her right cheek, and comes to rest on what has to >>> be as close to perfect lips as can be found, with just a hint of a natural >>> pout. >>> Eventually, one must consider the rest of the image, and look past her chin, >>> both strong and determined, but at the same time soft and alluring. >>> Her shoulder is a bit rounded, it looks great from the front, a teeny bit >>> odd at her back. I think either turning her a teeny bit left, or moving you >>> a smidgen to the left to cover the little bit of her back that is visible. >>> The torn sweater is a really good prop, the gratuitous nipple is >>> unnecessary, but appreciated. >>> Thank you for sharing this one. >> >> You are most welcome, Bill. Thank you for a very entertaining >> appreciation and critique! :) >> >> -- >> -bmw >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
Thank you, Frank. And thanks everyone who looked or commented. Regarding that ripped top, to allay fears that it represents violence of any kind: it was purposefully torn by the model's boyfriend to create a peek-a-boo garment for posing like this. Sans rips, it would fail to allow the nipple to make an artful appearance. :) On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:48 PM, knarfwrote: > Perfect focus on that lead eye, and pretty much everything that Bill said, > including in find parts of her face (nose and upper lip) a teensy bit hot. > > That ripped top is a bit of a distraction to me; doesn't add anything but > keeps pulling my eye away from that beautiful face. > > Those lips are gorgeous: Pout? Smile? A bit of both? All quite alluring and > sexy. > > Unlike Bill I love her slightly unkempt hair - it's in keeping with the > general informality of this beautiful portrait. > > Cheers, > > frank > > On October 29, 2015 9:16:46 AM EDT, Bruce Walker > wrote: >>This is another shot from my first work with art model Dorrie Mack, >>back in May. (It's actually work-safe unless you squint real hard.) >> >>https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22533038336/lightbox/ >> >>K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/100th sec, 100 ISO. >> >>One light source, daylight. I positioned her in the open mouth of a >>black v-flat (4x8' sheets of foam core) at right angles to the very >>large studio windows. >> >>Comments welcome! > > -- > > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Billwrote: > On 10/29/2015 7:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> This is another shot from my first work with art model Dorrie Mack, >> back in May. (It's actually work-safe unless you squint real hard.) >> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22533038336/lightbox/ >> >> K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/100th sec, 100 ISO. >> >> One light source, daylight. I positioned her in the open mouth of a >> black v-flat (4x8' sheets of foam core) at right angles to the very >> large studio windows. >> >> Comments welcome! >> > > Truly she is squint worthy. > There is just so much goodness in this image it's hard to start. Her hair is > just sort of there, tousled a little bit, which I am afraid, my friend, > distracts greatly. But then the viewer is drawn to, and then drawn into her > beautiful eyes, The light is nicely directional, but just a bit too bright > for my taste. Tearing oneself reluctantly away from her eyes, the viewer > glides languorously down her right cheek, and comes to rest on what has to > be as close to perfect lips as can be found, with just a hint of a natural > pout. > Eventually, one must consider the rest of the image, and look past her chin, > both strong and determined, but at the same time soft and alluring. > Her shoulder is a bit rounded, it looks great from the front, a teeny bit > odd at her back. I think either turning her a teeny bit left, or moving you > a smidgen to the left to cover the little bit of her back that is visible. > The torn sweater is a really good prop, the gratuitous nipple is > unnecessary, but appreciated. > Thank you for sharing this one. You are most welcome, Bill. Thank you for a very entertaining appreciation and critique! :) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
Nice. Love her look. Like the nipple, but I get a sense that the photo works too hard to reveal it. Paul via phone > On Nov 7, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Bruce Walkerwrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Bill wrote: >>> On 10/29/2015 7:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >>> >>> This is another shot from my first work with art model Dorrie Mack, >>> back in May. (It's actually work-safe unless you squint real hard.) >>> >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22533038336/lightbox/ >>> >>> K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/100th sec, 100 ISO. >>> >>> One light source, daylight. I positioned her in the open mouth of a >>> black v-flat (4x8' sheets of foam core) at right angles to the very >>> large studio windows. >>> >>> Comments welcome! >> >> Truly she is squint worthy. >> There is just so much goodness in this image it's hard to start. Her hair is >> just sort of there, tousled a little bit, which I am afraid, my friend, >> distracts greatly. But then the viewer is drawn to, and then drawn into her >> beautiful eyes, The light is nicely directional, but just a bit too bright >> for my taste. Tearing oneself reluctantly away from her eyes, the viewer >> glides languorously down her right cheek, and comes to rest on what has to >> be as close to perfect lips as can be found, with just a hint of a natural >> pout. >> Eventually, one must consider the rest of the image, and look past her chin, >> both strong and determined, but at the same time soft and alluring. >> Her shoulder is a bit rounded, it looks great from the front, a teeny bit >> odd at her back. I think either turning her a teeny bit left, or moving you >> a smidgen to the left to cover the little bit of her back that is visible. >> The torn sweater is a really good prop, the gratuitous nipple is >> unnecessary, but appreciated. >> Thank you for sharing this one. > > You are most welcome, Bill. Thank you for a very entertaining > appreciation and critique! :) > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
Basically as there seems to be no damage to the maiden more likely an indicator of extreme passion. On 10/30/2015 9:58 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:48 PM, knarfwrote: That ripped top is a bit of a distraction to m The ripped top also could support an inference that this is an image to document an assault on the lovely young lady. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:48 PM, knarfwrote: > That ripped top is a bit of a distraction to m The ripped top also could support an inference that this is an image to document an assault on the lovely young lady. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
That is a stunning portrait, with great light! Amazing what you can accomplish when you know what you are doing. (I squinted as hard as I could, but what I could see MIGHT have been a glimpse of one of the "naughty bits," or, it might have been part of the drape.) Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Bruce Walkerwrote: > This is another shot from my first work with art model Dorrie Mack, > back in May. (It's actually work-safe unless you squint real hard.) > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22533038336/lightbox/ > > K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/100th sec, 100 ISO. > > One light source, daylight. I positioned her in the open mouth of a > black v-flat (4x8' sheets of foam core) at right angles to the very > large studio windows. > > Comments welcome! > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
Certainly work safe and quite lovely. ann On 10/29/2015 11:42 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Very nice lighting and pose, Bruce. Ideal gaze and head position. Wrap and lipstick colors well chosen! J - Original Message - From: "Bruce Walker"To: "Pentax Discuss Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 6:16:46 AM Subject: PESO ~ A portrait in window light This is another shot from my first work with art model Dorrie Mack, back in May. (It's actually work-safe unless you squint real hard.) https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22533038336/lightbox/ K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/100th sec, 100 ISO. One light source, daylight. I positioned her in the open mouth of a black v-flat (4x8' sheets of foam core) at right angles to the very large studio windows. Comments welcome! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
Very nice lighting and pose, Bruce. Ideal gaze and head position. Wrap and lipstick colors well chosen! J - Original Message - From: "Bruce Walker"To: "Pentax Discuss Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 6:16:46 AM Subject: PESO ~ A portrait in window light This is another shot from my first work with art model Dorrie Mack, back in May. (It's actually work-safe unless you squint real hard.) https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22533038336/lightbox/ K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/100th sec, 100 ISO. One light source, daylight. I positioned her in the open mouth of a black v-flat (4x8' sheets of foam core) at right angles to the very large studio windows. Comments welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
Bruce, I remember seeing this image earlier, - I probably browsed through your website. Very nice shot. One thought that I remember I had back then, and that is sort of lingering now: I wonder if the same photo would have worked even better if that sweater was not ripped? (Obviously, that would've been a very different photo.) There is some dissonance between the glamorous setting/look and that ripped, almost-revealing sweater. It's like a tritone in music. Let me share yet another thought started by association to this photo. Your warning and responses of others (Dan and Ann) had me thinking that the famous painting by Delcroix ("Liberty Leading the People") would be considered NSFW. And yes, I would be careful not to open that painting in the university classroom (in a Physics or Materials Science class). Igor On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: This is another shot from my first work with art model Dorrie Mack, back in May. (It's actually work-safe unless you squint real hard.) https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22533038336/lightbox/ K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/100th sec, 100 ISO. One light source, daylight. I positioned her in the open mouth of a black v-flat (4x8' sheets of foam core) at right angles to the very large studio windows. Comments welcome! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
> -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Igor PDML-StR > > Bruce, > > I remember seeing this image earlier, - I probably browsed through your > website. Very nice shot. > > One thought that I remember I had back then, and that is sort of lingering > now: I wonder if the same photo would have worked even better if that > sweater was not ripped? (Obviously, that would've been a very different > photo.) > There is some dissonance between the glamorous setting/look and that > ripped, almost-revealing sweater. It's like a tritone in music. > > > Let me share yet another thought started by association to this photo. > Your warning and responses of others (Dan and Ann) had me thinking that > the famous painting by Delcroix ("Liberty Leading the People") would be > considered NSFW. > And yes, I would be careful not to open that painting in the university > classroom (in a Physics or Materials Science class). > Better steer well clear of Francois Boucher's paintings then. Especially his portrait of Marie-Louise O'Murphy, or his Leda and the Swan. They would disturb some of those materials scientists in a very material way. B > Igor > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > > This is another shot from my first work with art model Dorrie Mack, > > back in May. (It's actually work-safe unless you squint real hard.) > > > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22533038336/lightbox/ > > > > K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/100th sec, 100 ISO. > > > > One light source, daylight. I positioned her in the open mouth of a > > black v-flat (4x8' sheets of foam core) at right angles to the very > > large studio windows. > > > > Comments welcome! > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
On 10/29/2015 7:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: This is another shot from my first work with art model Dorrie Mack, back in May. (It's actually work-safe unless you squint real hard.) https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22533038336/lightbox/ K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/100th sec, 100 ISO. One light source, daylight. I positioned her in the open mouth of a black v-flat (4x8' sheets of foam core) at right angles to the very large studio windows. Comments welcome! Truly she is squint worthy. There is just so much goodness in this image it's hard to start. Her hair is just sort of there, tousled a little bit, which I am afraid, my friend, distracts greatly. But then the viewer is drawn to, and then drawn into her beautiful eyes, The light is nicely directional, but just a bit too bright for my taste. Tearing oneself reluctantly away from her eyes, the viewer glides languorously down her right cheek, and comes to rest on what has to be as close to perfect lips as can be found, with just a hint of a natural pout. Eventually, one must consider the rest of the image, and look past her chin, both strong and determined, but at the same time soft and alluring. Her shoulder is a bit rounded, it looks great from the front, a teeny bit odd at her back. I think either turning her a teeny bit left, or moving you a smidgen to the left to cover the little bit of her back that is visible. The torn sweater is a really good prop, the gratuitous nipple is unnecessary, but appreciated. Thank you for sharing this one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
Perfect focus on that lead eye, and pretty much everything that Bill said, including in find parts of her face (nose and upper lip) a teensy bit hot. That ripped top is a bit of a distraction to me; doesn't add anything but keeps pulling my eye away from that beautiful face. Those lips are gorgeous: Pout? Smile? A bit of both? All quite alluring and sexy. Unlike Bill I love her slightly unkempt hair - it's in keeping with the general informality of this beautiful portrait. Cheers, frank On October 29, 2015 9:16:46 AM EDT, Bruce Walkerwrote: >This is another shot from my first work with art model Dorrie Mack, >back in May. (It's actually work-safe unless you squint real hard.) > >https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22533038336/lightbox/ > >K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/100th sec, 100 ISO. > >One light source, daylight. I positioned her in the open mouth of a >black v-flat (4x8' sheets of foam core) at right angles to the very >large studio windows. > >Comments welcome! -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
"...the gratuitous nipple is unnecessary, but appreciated." MARK! Cheers, frank On October 29, 2015 8:10:36 PM EDT, Billwrote: >On 10/29/2015 7:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> This is another shot from my first work with art model Dorrie Mack, >> back in May. (It's actually work-safe unless you squint real hard.) >> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22533038336/lightbox/ >> >> K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/100th sec, 100 ISO. >> >> One light source, daylight. I positioned her in the open mouth of a >> black v-flat (4x8' sheets of foam core) at right angles to the very >> large studio windows. >> >> Comments welcome! >> > >Truly she is squint worthy. >There is just so much goodness in this image it's hard to start. Her >hair is just sort of there, tousled a little bit, which I am afraid, my > >friend, distracts greatly. But then the viewer is drawn to, and then >drawn into her beautiful eyes, The light is nicely directional, but >just >a bit too bright for my taste. Tearing oneself reluctantly away from >her >eyes, the viewer glides languorously down her right cheek, and comes to > >rest on what has to be as close to perfect lips as can be found, with >just a hint of a natural pout. >Eventually, one must consider the rest of the image, and look past her >chin, both strong and determined, but at the same time soft and >alluring. >Her shoulder is a bit rounded, it looks great from the front, a teeny >bit odd at her back. I think either turning her a teeny bit left, or >moving you a smidgen to the left to cover the little bit of her back >that is visible. The torn sweater is a really good prop, the >gratuitous >nipple is unnecessary, but appreciated. >Thank you for sharing this one. -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
I know is seems cheap, but what Frank said. m On Oct 29, 2015, at 8:48 PM, knarfwrote: > Perfect focus on that lead eye, and pretty much everything that Bill said, > including in find parts of her face (nose and upper lip) a teensy bit hot. > > That ripped top is a bit of a distraction to me; doesn't add anything but > keeps pulling my eye away from that beautiful face. > > Those lips are gorgeous: Pout? Smile? A bit of both? All quite alluring and > sexy. > > Unlike Bill I love her slightly unkempt hair - it's in keeping with the > general informality of this beautiful portrait. > > Cheers, > > frank > > On October 29, 2015 9:16:46 AM EDT, Bruce Walker > wrote: >> This is another shot from my first work with art model Dorrie Mack, >> back in May. (It's actually work-safe unless you squint real hard.) >> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22533038336/lightbox/ >> >> K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/100th sec, 100 ISO. >> >> One light source, daylight. I positioned her in the open mouth of a >> black v-flat (4x8' sheets of foam core) at right angles to the very >> large studio windows. >> >> Comments welcome! > > -- > > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.