Re: PSE 5.0 and Adobe RAW

2006-10-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Oct 22, 2006, at 12:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Use Camera Raw's white-balance eye dropper. Look for what ought to be
>> a Zone VIII to Zone IX gray tone (values with close to proper
>> exposure setting should be between 180 and 230 in R, G and B) and
>> click on it ... I find this gets me very very close to the mark most
>> of the time.
>
> Unfamiliar with zone system. You mean middle gray?

No, middle gray (or the 18% reflectance standard used for meter  
calibration) is Zone V.

Zone system basic:
The scale runs from Zone I to X, with Zone I being black, Zone X  
being white. The brightest area to retain detail should be in Zone  
IX, and the Zones represent one-stop steps, approximately.

So you're looking for a near-white gray, between two and one stops  
down from pure white.

Godfrey


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Re: PSE 5.0 and Adobe RAW

2006-10-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Use Camera Raw's white-balance eye dropper. Look for what ought to be  
a Zone VIII to Zone IX gray tone (values with close to proper  
exposure setting should be between 180 and 230 in R, G and B) and  
click on it ... I find this gets me very very close to the mark most  
of the time.

Godfrey

On Oct 22, 2006, at 9:25 AM, Mat Maessen wrote:

> I've started ignoring the "as shot" white balance, and trying to get
> it as close to what I remember as I can by eye. It's taking a lot of
> practice...


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Re: PSE 5.0 and Adobe RAW

2006-10-22 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/22/2006 11:54:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Use Camera Raw's white-balance eye dropper. Look for what ought to be  
a Zone VIII to Zone IX gray tone (values with close to proper  
exposure setting should be between 180 and 230 in R, G and B) and  
click on it ... I find this gets me very very close to the mark most  
of the time.

Godfrey
===
Unfamiliar with zone system. You mean middle gray?

Marnie aka Doe 

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Re: PSE 5.0 and Adobe RAW

2006-10-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I think this is a deficiency with Camera Raw more than anything else.  
I do the same thing (using Photoshop CS2 + Camera Raw), although I  
find that usually exposure needs to be set at around +0.3-0.5 as a  
baseline for white point, using the DS body.

Godfrey

On Oct 22, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

> Regardless of the camera WB setting, the Adobe RAW converter shows  
> the WB
> "as shot", and a color temperature of 4800.  I find that changing  
> the white
> balance to whatever the actual conditions were, and setting  
> exposure to 0.00
> usually shows the image as I remember it being.


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Re: PSE 5.0 and Adobe RAW

2006-10-22 Thread Mat Maessen
On 10/22/06, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Regardless of the camera WB setting, the Adobe RAW converter shows the WB
> "as shot", and a color temperature of 4800.  I find that changing the white
> balance to whatever the actual conditions were, and setting exposure to 0.00
> usually shows the image as I remember it being.

Bill,

I've run into similar issues with Photoshop CS2 and the Adobe RAW
converter (probably the same version/program for the raw converter).
My best guess is that the camera isn't writing the "as shot" white
balance properly. On my DS2, it seems to make the "as shot" setting
equivalent to its "auto white balance" guess, regardless of how the
white balance is set in-camera.

I've started ignoring the "as shot" white balance, and trying to get
it as close to what I remember as I can by eye. It's taking a lot of
practice...

-Mat

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