Re: Pentax *istD NEWS FLASH!!!!

2004-02-01 Thread Peter Alling
I'd assume that the step up will sell for not a lot more than the
current *ist-D.  Maybe 200 to 400 (US Dollars Euros Pounds you name it
since from the pricing I'm aware of they are used interchangeably in
spite of conversion differences).  Here's what I see as a workable plan
introduce the "Super" *ist-D 8-9meg sensor (this is the big-ist challenge in
my opinion) possibly a larger buffer for faster capture rate, maybe titanium
clad, USM, IS, or add an actual aperture simulator for full use of older lenses
any or all of these are possible.  *ist-Dn really just an *ist-D with firmware
upgrade maybe with a slight body redesign to address the few ergonomic problems
but sold at the new lower price, injection molding is relatively easy to 
change.
*ist-D lite same as the in a slightly different body shell current model 
losing
some of the bells and whistles what would I remove nothing I can think of but
look at the differences between the D10 and digital rebel for an idea, 
personally
I think that the most off putting item to many are the custom functions, 
beginners
and some older users may even be afraid of them.  Of course I could be smoking
banana skins.  (You don't have to say it.)



At 04:17 AM 2/1/04, you wrote:
On 31/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>
>At 06:40 PM 1/31/04, you wrote:
>>On 31/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>>
>> >Nor does it preclude a Model above the *ist-D either.
>>
>>Sorry Pete - that is cloud cuckoo land.
>>
>The likely hood is low but not impossible.  Pentax has a record
>of taking a single basic design and differentiating the hell out of
>it.  They seem to have perfected the method with the MZ/ZX series of
>cameras.   What was the last count of variations, 10 not counting the MZ-S
>which is related to the rest of the MZ/ZX cameras in much the same way as
>the MX was related to the rest of the M series, mostly in name only.
>If the guts of the *ist-D and *ist film cameras are properly designed
>we may just see a new body based on both.  I won't speculate on what might
>be in a higher level body but everyone has a wish list.
I take your point but the reason I don't think they will offer 'a step
up' from the *ist D / D100 / 10D level is because relatively few people
would buy it.
Cheers,
  Cotty
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Re: Pentax *istD NEWS FLASH!!!!

2004-02-01 Thread Cotty
On 31/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>I was actually thinking this myself - they could still be planning to
>release something low end, AND high end with the *istD smack in the middle,
>although, the price drop has me wondering about the low end option to some
>degree... I mean, maybe they intend to release something higher eg 8MP,...?

Not a chance. The day that happens my cats will be sitting in the garden
sipping iced tea with all the field mice.



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Re: Pentax *istD NEWS FLASH!!!!

2004-01-31 Thread Rob Studdert
On 31 Jan 2004 at 17:54, Norm Baugher wrote:

> Serious question though, from a digital idiot - couldn't they just stick 
> a, say 8MP sensor in the sunkist, and re-release it?

Sure with relevant circuit up-grades and assuming that the sensor size remains 
the same or is smaller which effectively defeats most of the advantage. Really 
the pixel density shouldn't be increased much beyond where it is at the moment, 
it's size that counts in this case.

Cheers,

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Re: Pentax *istD NEWS FLASH!!!!

2004-01-31 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 31/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>
>>"Dear Ms Mayer,
>>
>>Thank you very much for your interest in the *ist D.
>>
>>There will be no *ist D replacement announced at PMA.
>
>Interesting but this does not preclude a Baby D.
>
>I think we might just see an announcement of some kind

Not at PMA.
Perhaps at Photokina in September.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Pentax *istD NEWS FLASH!!!!

2004-01-31 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Cotty noted: " Interesting but this does not preclude a Baby D."


or a "papa D" for that matter...

I was actually thinking this myself - they could still be planning to
release something low end, AND high end with the *istD smack in the middle,
although, the price drop has me wondering about the low end option to some
degree... I mean, maybe they intend to release something higher eg 8MP, and
the new price will automatically drop the *istD down to the "baby D" level?

I was already considering to myself that he has worded it so as to seem more
beneficial for me to purchase the *istD now, rather than wait, which in turn
makes me think that they are really trying hard to clear out the stock to
make way for something new, and probably bigger and better...

The idea of them releasing a second "edition" with the firmware upgrade
doesn't gel with me - it is just too easy to download it and install it
yourself, I just don't see how they could charge extra for a body containing
information that is readily available for free and is most easy to
install...

As for Mike's "bubble bursting" comments - no bubbles to be burst here Mike!
I am not so naive as to believe everything that they offer me, and can also,
as I mentioned recognise that he was very "cryptic" in his tone - I was more
excited just to be able to offer the list an "exclusive" that I could barely
believe I would be privy too!

tan.



> >"Dear Ms Mayer,
> >
> >Thank you very much for your interest in the *ist D.
> >
> >There will be no *ist D replacement announced at PMA.
>
> Interesting but this does not preclude a Baby D.
>
> I think we might just see an announcement of some kind
>
>
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
>
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Re: Pentax *istD NEWS FLASH!!!!

2004-01-31 Thread Bruce Dayton
I'm with you Norm.  I will be very pleasantly suprised if they have
something to announce, let alone show.  Even when they are moving
fast, they aren't very fast.  The *istD is too new for them to be
ready with something else.

I would dearly love to see something, though.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Saturday, January 31, 2004, 1:54:37 PM, you wrote:

NB> Does an announcement that announces that they have nothing to announce
NB> qualify as a true announcement?
NB> 
NB> Norm

NB> Cotty wrote:

>>I think we might just see an announcement of some kind
>>  
>>





Re: Pentax *istD NEWS FLASH!!!!

2004-01-31 Thread Peter Alling
Nor does it preclude a Model above the *ist-D either.

At 05:46 PM 1/31/04, you wrote:
On 31/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>"Dear Ms Mayer,
>
>Thank you very much for your interest in the *ist D.
>
>There will be no *ist D replacement announced at PMA.
Interesting but this does not preclude a Baby D.

I think we might just see an announcement of some kind

Cheers,
  Cotty
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Re: Pentax *istD NEWS FLASH!!!!

2004-01-31 Thread Norm Baugher
Does an announcement that announces that they have nothing to announce 
qualify as a true announcement?

Norm

Cotty wrote:

I think we might just see an announcement of some kind
 




Re: Pentax *istD NEWS FLASH!!!!

2004-01-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>"Dear Ms Mayer,
>
>Thank you very much for your interest in the *ist D.
>
>There will be no *ist D replacement announced at PMA.

Interesting but this does not preclude a Baby D.

I think we might just see an announcement of some kind


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Pentax *istD NEWS FLASH!!!!

2004-01-31 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Translations interspersed

Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

> "Dear Ms Mayer,
> 
> Thank you very much for your interest in the *ist D.

We're glad someone is.  Maybe if we are polite enough you'll buy one.

> There will be no *ist D replacement announced at PMA.

And if there was, we wouldn't tell you, as then what would we do with
all this stock we've got?

> The investment necessary for the production of a Digital SLR is so huge that
> the model life must be long.

At least six months.  For the first model.

> We do not offer consumer  rebates in Australia , as our prices already
> reflect  the current factory price reduction.

Reflect but pass on as little as possible.

> We will be delighted to quote you directly on your *ist D requirements.

You've already said you're going to buy one.  All we're talking about
here is how much we can squeeze out of you.

> Please contact
> 
> C.R.Kennedy & Company Pty Ltd
> 663 Chapel St
> South Yarra
> Vic 3141
> Australia
> Tel+61 3 9823 1555
> Fax   +61 3 9827 7213
> http://www.crkennedy.com.au

Sorry to be a bubble burster.

mike