Re: Pentax Spotted
A bit arty, but well spotted. J Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 22, 2018, at 12:38 AM, Alan C wrote: > > A local TV show, Carte Blanche, ran an item on DNA & Facial recognition > profiling last night. This image appeared in a snippet from an American Lab. > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/45488710581/ > > Taken by a pal with his K500 & Super Tak 55mm > > Alan C > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What, Ricoh has hired a marketing staff to sell Pentax, why, why, that's... Blasphemy! On 5/11/2018 12:39 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Also, Ricoh has a full page add on the back cover of the latest Outdoor Photographer magazine. -Original Message- From: Gonz https://fstoppers.com/business/are-you-pricing-your-photography-services-correctly-248648 -- -- Photography takes an instant out of time, altering life by holding it still. Dorothea Lange -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Also, Ricoh has a full page add on the back cover of the latest Outdoor Photographer magazine. -Original Message- >From: Gonz Subject: Pentax spotted > >https://fstoppers.com/business/are-you-pricing-your-photography-services-correctly-248648 > > >-- >-- Photography takes an instant out of time, altering life by holding >it still. Dorothea Lange -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 12:28:43PM -0600, PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com wrote: > Okay let me try this from my regular Facebook instead of my photography page > > https://www.facebook.com/jeffery.t.johnson.7/posts/1985563248126674 > > I have the post public so maybe it will allow viewing of it without having > to be logged into Facebook. > > Jeffery Johnson > > > Saw it for just a few seconds before a Facebook pop-up that wanted me to > > create an account obscured it. Just click on "Not Now" and the pop-up pops back down. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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We had been wondering where Knarf was! ann On 12/8/2017 4:44 PM, Larry Colen wrote: mike wilson wrote: On 08 December 2017 at 18:28 "PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com" wrote: Okay let me try this from my regular Facebook instead of my photography page https://www.facebook.com/jeffery.t.johnson.7/posts/1985563248126674 I have the post public so maybe it will allow viewing of it without having to be logged into Facebook. Your naivety is very refreshing and utterly misplaced. Pop! A lot of times there is a special link to use to make facebook photos and albums publicly, you might need to click on the gear shaped icon near the photo then "get link" Jeffery Johnson Saw it for just a few seconds before a Facebook pop-up that wanted me to create an account obscured it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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mike wilson wrote: On 08 December 2017 at 18:28 "PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com" wrote: Okay let me try this from my regular Facebook instead of my photography page https://www.facebook.com/jeffery.t.johnson.7/posts/1985563248126674 I have the post public so maybe it will allow viewing of it without having to be logged into Facebook. Your naivety is very refreshing and utterly misplaced. Pop! A lot of times there is a special link to use to make facebook photos and albums publicly, you might need to click on the gear shaped icon near the photo then "get link" Jeffery Johnson Saw it for just a few seconds before a Facebook pop-up that wanted me to create an account obscured it. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On 08 December 2017 at 18:28 "PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com" > wrote: > > > Okay let me try this from my regular Facebook instead of my photography page > > https://www.facebook.com/jeffery.t.johnson.7/posts/1985563248126674 > > I have the post public so maybe it will allow viewing of it without > having to be logged into Facebook. Your naivety is very refreshing and utterly misplaced. Pop! > > Jeffery Johnson > > > Saw it for just a few seconds before a Facebook pop-up that wanted me > > to create an account obscured it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Okay let me try this from my regular Facebook instead of my photography page https://www.facebook.com/jeffery.t.johnson.7/posts/1985563248126674 I have the post public so maybe it will allow viewing of it without having to be logged into Facebook. Jeffery Johnson Saw it for just a few seconds before a Facebook pop-up that wanted me to create an account obscured it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/7/2017 18:06, PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com wrote: Here is something to brighten your evening, night, morning https://www.facebook.com/PhotoCapturesbyJeffery/posts/1499730210096658 Do let me know if you were able to view it. Saw it for just a few seconds before a Facebook pop-up that wanted me to create an account obscured it. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Not Sure John if it is limited lens or not :-) Jeffery Johnson | Photo Captures by Jeffery http://www.PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com /Diverse range of photography Artistic - Animals - Events/Festivals - Transportation - Pets - Nature - Scenic - Cityscape. That you can purchase as framed or unframed prints, with loads of variety in home decor./ On 12/7/2017 8:31 PM, John Francis wrote: On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 05:06:35PM -0600, PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com wrote: Here is something to brighten your evening, night, morning https://www.facebook.com/PhotoCapturesbyJeffery/posts/1499730210096658 Is that a Limited lens that bunny has there? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 05:06:35PM -0600, PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com wrote: > Here is something to brighten your evening, night, morning > > https://www.facebook.com/PhotoCapturesbyJeffery/posts/1499730210096658 Is that a Limited lens that bunny has there? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/23/2017 2:56 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 23/2/17, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: Most of my jokes are for the humor impaired. I'd say all. Be nice! In truth, Larry's jokes are NOT for the humor impaired, nor for the slow of wit. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 23/2/17, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: >Most of my jokes are for the humor impaired. I'd say all. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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P. J. Alling wrote: Don't you know, just stuff the film into the NAS and viola* the images are in right there... *that's a joke for the humor impaired, (voilà). Most of my jokes are for the humor impaired. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Don't you know, just stuff the film into the NAS and viola* the images are in right there... *that's a joke for the humor impaired, (voilà). On 2/19/2017 6:03 PM, Gonz wrote: K1000, which seems to be not the right type of camera to be showing next to an NAS. http://www.digitaltrends.com/hard-drive-reviews/wd-pr4100-nas-review/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice lens > On 19 Feb 2017, at 23:03, Gonz wrote: > > K1000, which seems to be not the right type of camera to be showing > next to an NAS. > > http://www.digitaltrends.com/hard-drive-reviews/wd-pr4100-nas-review/ > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yep, Lik is the saturation master, without a doubt. ;) He well knows the rewards of super saturating nature. Just not my cup of tea. J - Original Message - From: "Gonz" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:25:42 PM Subject: Re: Pentax spotted I agree Paul. If I only looked at photos as an investment, I would never buy any photo. If I buy them, its because there is something I like about it enough to part with my money. And if I really like it, it might just take up some better real estate on my walls. I wouldn't mind having this Lik on one of my walls for example: http://www.lik.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/u/autumn-impressions.jpg Of course, getting me to part with that much money is going to be the gatekeeper here. On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:24 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > if Lik's message sells photo, then it’s a good one. I sometimes hustle photos > when I shoot cars for publications. The owners will be much more likely to > buy if I praise their car and tell them I’m going to make a print for myself. > “Would you like one as well?” On a $1200 shoot for Mopar Action, I usually > sell $2000 worth of photos. > > I think there are perhaps two PDML members who are as skillful as Lik. I > won’t name them, but I will say that I’m certainly not one of them. I know > when I’m outclassed. He’s a damn good photographer, and if he can sell his > work, more power to him. I don’t think he should say that it’s a good > investment, but it’s okay to say that it might be a good investment. I > haven’t seen his pitch, so I don’t know. > > If you’re a photo hobbyist, you don’t have to worry about salesmanship, but > if you intend to earn a living at photography, you have to be a businessman, > and given how hard it is to sell photos, you better have a real good story. > I earn a very good living selling communications, although the vast majority > of it is copy, not photography. But it still requires working the beat and > salesmanship. > > Paul >> On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:35 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing >> photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. >> What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I >> consider him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it >> with intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who >> earn more than I do. More power to them. >> >>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Paul Stenquist wrote: >>>> A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great >>>> deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none. >>> >>> However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't >>> make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage >>> we use. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Paul via phone >>>> >>>>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> John wrote: >>>>>> He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the >>>>>> 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he >>>>>> actually used some of the equipment he reviews. >>>>> I was just about to phrase it as: >>>>> >>>>> Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically >>>>> as Mr. Rockwell. >>>>> >>>>> But, yeah. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I agree Paul. If I only looked at photos as an investment, I would never buy any photo. If I buy them, its because there is something I like about it enough to part with my money. And if I really like it, it might just take up some better real estate on my walls. I wouldn't mind having this Lik on one of my walls for example: http://www.lik.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/u/autumn-impressions.jpg Of course, getting me to part with that much money is going to be the gatekeeper here. On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:24 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > if Lik's message sells photo, then it’s a good one. I sometimes hustle photos > when I shoot cars for publications. The owners will be much more likely to > buy if I praise their car and tell them I’m going to make a print for myself. > “Would you like one as well?” On a $1200 shoot for Mopar Action, I usually > sell $2000 worth of photos. > > I think there are perhaps two PDML members who are as skillful as Lik. I > won’t name them, but I will say that I’m certainly not one of them. I know > when I’m outclassed. He’s a damn good photographer, and if he can sell his > work, more power to him. I don’t think he should say that it’s a good > investment, but it’s okay to say that it might be a good investment. I > haven’t seen his pitch, so I don’t know. > > If you’re a photo hobbyist, you don’t have to worry about salesmanship, but > if you intend to earn a living at photography, you have to be a businessman, > and given how hard it is to sell photos, you better have a real good story. > I earn a very good living selling communications, although the vast majority > of it is copy, not photography. But it still requires working the beat and > salesmanship. > > Paul >> On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:35 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing >> photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. >> What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I >> consider him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it >> with intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who >> earn more than I do. More power to them. >> >>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Paul Stenquist wrote: A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none. >>> >>> However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't >>> make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage >>> we use. >>> >>> Paul via phone > On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > John wrote: >> He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the >> 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. >> >> It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he >> actually used some of the equipment he reviews. > I was just about to phrase it as: > > Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically > as Mr. Rockwell. > > But, yeah. > > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. >>> >>> -- >>> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, FWIW, my snark was aimed at Lik. While he is indeed a competent photographer, his style is not exactly to my taste, and his self promotion occasionally gets on my nerves. I also think the value of his images does not justify the price of his prints. I know others disagree, but that's fine with me. It's my opinion & I'm the only one who has to deal with the consequences. That said, if someone were to offer me an ungodly amount of money for one of my images, I'd take the money and run ... in a New York minute. What I hope I would *NOT* do is break my arm trying to pat myself on the back pretending that just because someone was willing to spend a lot of money for my work it makes me superior to everyone else. On 6/27/2015 12:03 AM, Ken Waller wrote: However, if one of his shots with the 645Z were to make it into the PDML annual, I don't think that it would stand out as any better than most of the other landscape photos. The difference is he is a well known name if photographic circles and as far as I know none on the PDML'ers are. I am somewhat conflicted over his separating suckers from their money by selling his photos as an artwork investment. So I assume if someone were to offer you an ungodly amount for one of your images you'd refuse ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" Subject: Re: Pentax spotted paul stenquist wrote: Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I consider him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it with intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who earn more than I do. More power to them. In case it wasn't obvious the snark in my comment was not directed at Mr. Lik. My first exposure to him was when I was staying with a friend and there was some show about him on TV. My reaction to what he said and his presentation was that he was on overly dramatic pompous buffoon. I was far more impressed by the videography in that episode than the photos that he took. My impression of his work photographically is that he is indeed a competent photographer. However, if one of his shots with the 645Z were to make it into the PDML annual, I don't think that it would stand out as any better than most of the other landscape photos. I do recognize that what I objected to on the TV show could well have more to do with the medium than him, and I do not object to any artist making an honest living with their work. I am somewhat conflicted over his separating suckers from their money by selling his photos as an artwork investment. In a situation somewhat like the gels from the Disney animated movies, in reality the supply far exceeds the demand on the market, so when people try to recoup their investment in his "art", they find that the would end up losing money in the process. As was pointed out, Kinkade would probably be a more apt comparison. However, I contend that selling investments that lose money can be equivalent to selling advice that is wrong, and in that regard Lik and Rockwell are cut from the same cloth. Paul On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none. However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage we use. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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To pick up on Paul’s point, this 2013 article on how Andreas Gursky started selling big might be of interest to others—it speaks well to Paul’s point of the role of auction houses, galleries, and art dealers—see 2nd graph and on. http://gizmodo.com/what-does-it-take-to-sell-the-most-expensive-photograph-838447250 Also, here’s a list of the most expensive photos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_photographs Cheers, Christine > On Jun 27, 2015, at 9:16 AM, paul stenquist wrote: > > While future generations and the test of time will have to decide if Mr. > Lik’s work is indeed valuable art, the fact that it sells for big prices now > is not a determining factor in measuring its worth. The world’s greatest art > sells for astronomical sums, in part due to good marketing by auction houses > and galleries. It’s all about deriving as much benefit as possible. Lik is > entitled to whatever he gets, and those who buy his photos do so willingly. > > Lik is of course an obnoxious boor and a severe egotist. (They say Mozart was > as well.) But that should never be a factor in evaluating his work. >> On Jun 27, 2015, at 3:57 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: >> >> Larry Colen wrote: >> >>> It's not so much that people offer him that sort of money for his >>> photos, but that they are told that the photos are a good investment, >>> when in reality, they are nearly guaranteed to lose money: >>> >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/business/peter-liks-recipe-for- >>> success-sell-prints-print-money.html >>> >>> Here is another interesting article: >>> http://scottreither.com/blogwp/2012/06/11/peter-lik-gallery- >>> photographer-my-story/ >> >> It's the world of the bizarre, and I can't help feeling that most of those >> paying extreme amounts of money for prints (one off or limited edition), >> must be getting them to offset tax in some way. >> >> I can look on these images a very different way. I'm not in any way >> connected with the industry and my photographic interest is as a hobby only, >> and I have no desire to it ever becoming more than it is. I very much enjoy >> looking at local galleries and occasionally I'll see something I think that >> I will have a go at shooting my own version of. >> >> However, when I see prints selling at these sums, I think the more expensive >> they are moves them further away from art and photography all the time. They >> become financial instruments, or items bought because 'x' person has one. >> This all smells of money with multiple galleries; it is the fast art >> equivalent of a fast food franchise. >> >> Malcolm >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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While future generations and the test of time will have to decide if Mr. Lik’s work is indeed valuable art, the fact that it sells for big prices now is not a determining factor in measuring its worth. The world’s greatest art sells for astronomical sums, in part due to good marketing by auction houses and galleries. It’s all about deriving as much benefit as possible. Lik is entitled to whatever he gets, and those who buy his photos do so willingly. Lik is of course an obnoxious boor and a severe egotist. (They say Mozart was as well.) But that should never be a factor in evaluating his work. > On Jun 27, 2015, at 3:57 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: > > Larry Colen wrote: > >> It's not so much that people offer him that sort of money for his >> photos, but that they are told that the photos are a good investment, >> when in reality, they are nearly guaranteed to lose money: >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/business/peter-liks-recipe-for- >> success-sell-prints-print-money.html >> >> Here is another interesting article: >> http://scottreither.com/blogwp/2012/06/11/peter-lik-gallery- >> photographer-my-story/ > > It's the world of the bizarre, and I can't help feeling that most of those > paying extreme amounts of money for prints (one off or limited edition), > must be getting them to offset tax in some way. > > I can look on these images a very different way. I'm not in any way > connected with the industry and my photographic interest is as a hobby only, > and I have no desire to it ever becoming more than it is. I very much enjoy > looking at local galleries and occasionally I'll see something I think that > I will have a go at shooting my own version of. > > However, when I see prints selling at these sums, I think the more expensive > they are moves them further away from art and photography all the time. They > become financial instruments, or items bought because 'x' person has one. > This all smells of money with multiple galleries; it is the fast art > equivalent of a fast food franchise. > > Malcolm > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Larry Colen wrote: > It's not so much that people offer him that sort of money for his > photos, but that they are told that the photos are a good investment, > when in reality, they are nearly guaranteed to lose money: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/business/peter-liks-recipe-for- > success-sell-prints-print-money.html > > Here is another interesting article: > http://scottreither.com/blogwp/2012/06/11/peter-lik-gallery- > photographer-my-story/ It's the world of the bizarre, and I can't help feeling that most of those paying extreme amounts of money for prints (one off or limited edition), must be getting them to offset tax in some way. I can look on these images a very different way. I'm not in any way connected with the industry and my photographic interest is as a hobby only, and I have no desire to it ever becoming more than it is. I very much enjoy looking at local galleries and occasionally I'll see something I think that I will have a go at shooting my own version of. However, when I see prints selling at these sums, I think the more expensive they are moves them further away from art and photography all the time. They become financial instruments, or items bought because 'x' person has one. This all smells of money with multiple galleries; it is the fast art equivalent of a fast food franchise. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ken Waller wrote: However, if one of his shots with the 645Z were to make it into the PDML annual, I don't think that it would stand out as any better than most of the other landscape photos. The difference is he is a well known name if photographic circles and as far as I know none on the PDML'ers are. I am somewhat conflicted over his separating suckers from their money by selling his photos as an artwork investment. So I assume if someone were to offer you an ungodly amount for one of your images you'd refuse ! It's not so much that people offer him that sort of money for his photos, but that they are told that the photos are a good investment, when in reality, they are nearly guaranteed to lose money: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/business/peter-liks-recipe-for-success-sell-prints-print-money.html Here is another interesting article: http://scottreither.com/blogwp/2012/06/11/peter-lik-gallery-photographer-my-story/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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However, if one of his shots with the 645Z were to make it into the PDML annual, I don't think that it would stand out as any better than most of the other landscape photos. The difference is he is a well known name if photographic circles and as far as I know none on the PDML'ers are. I am somewhat conflicted over his separating suckers from their money by selling his photos as an artwork investment. So I assume if someone were to offer you an ungodly amount for one of your images you'd refuse ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" Subject: Re: Pentax spotted paul stenquist wrote: Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I consider him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it with intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who earn more than I do. More power to them. In case it wasn't obvious the snark in my comment was not directed at Mr. Lik. My first exposure to him was when I was staying with a friend and there was some show about him on TV. My reaction to what he said and his presentation was that he was on overly dramatic pompous buffoon. I was far more impressed by the videography in that episode than the photos that he took. My impression of his work photographically is that he is indeed a competent photographer. However, if one of his shots with the 645Z were to make it into the PDML annual, I don't think that it would stand out as any better than most of the other landscape photos. I do recognize that what I objected to on the TV show could well have more to do with the medium than him, and I do not object to any artist making an honest living with their work. I am somewhat conflicted over his separating suckers from their money by selling his photos as an artwork investment. In a situation somewhat like the gels from the Disney animated movies, in reality the supply far exceeds the demand on the market, so when people try to recoup their investment in his "art", they find that the would end up losing money in the process. As was pointed out, Kinkade would probably be a more apt comparison. However, I contend that selling investments that lose money can be equivalent to selling advice that is wrong, and in that regard Lik and Rockwell are cut from the same cloth. Paul On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none. However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage we use. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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if Lik's message sells photo, then it’s a good one. I sometimes hustle photos when I shoot cars for publications. The owners will be much more likely to buy if I praise their car and tell them I’m going to make a print for myself. “Would you like one as well?” On a $1200 shoot for Mopar Action, I usually sell $2000 worth of photos. I think there are perhaps two PDML members who are as skillful as Lik. I won’t name them, but I will say that I’m certainly not one of them. I know when I’m outclassed. He’s a damn good photographer, and if he can sell his work, more power to him. I don’t think he should say that it’s a good investment, but it’s okay to say that it might be a good investment. I haven’t seen his pitch, so I don’t know. If you’re a photo hobbyist, you don’t have to worry about salesmanship, but if you intend to earn a living at photography, you have to be a businessman, and given how hard it is to sell photos, you better have a real good story. I earn a very good living selling communications, although the vast majority of it is copy, not photography. But it still requires working the beat and salesmanship. Paul > On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:35 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing > photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. > What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I consider > him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it with > intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who earn > more than I do. More power to them. > >> On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> >> >> Paul Stenquist wrote: >>> A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great >>> deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none. >> >> However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't make >> enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage we >> use. >> >> >>> >>> Paul via phone >>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote: John wrote: > He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the > 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. > > It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he > actually used some of the equipment he reviews. I was just about to phrase it as: Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically as Mr. Rockwell. But, yeah. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> >> >> -- >> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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paul stenquist wrote: Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I consider him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it with intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who earn more than I do. More power to them. In case it wasn't obvious the snark in my comment was not directed at Mr. Lik. My first exposure to him was when I was staying with a friend and there was some show about him on TV. My reaction to what he said and his presentation was that he was on overly dramatic pompous buffoon. I was far more impressed by the videography in that episode than the photos that he took. My impression of his work photographically is that he is indeed a competent photographer. However, if one of his shots with the 645Z were to make it into the PDML annual, I don't think that it would stand out as any better than most of the other landscape photos. I do recognize that what I objected to on the TV show could well have more to do with the medium than him, and I do not object to any artist making an honest living with their work. I am somewhat conflicted over his separating suckers from their money by selling his photos as an artwork investment. In a situation somewhat like the gels from the Disney animated movies, in reality the supply far exceeds the demand on the market, so when people try to recoup their investment in his "art", they find that the would end up losing money in the process. As was pointed out, Kinkade would probably be a more apt comparison. However, I contend that selling investments that lose money can be equivalent to selling advice that is wrong, and in that regard Lik and Rockwell are cut from the same cloth. Paul On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none. However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage we use. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Much prefer the vivid B&W. J Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2015, at 12:39 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > > I'd be a Hypocrite, if I didn't admit to not overly processing to yield > dramatic Black and White images. > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20butisitart.html > > and before conversion > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20becauseannasked.html > > but you've got to know what you're working for. No one was ever really > supposed to see the second image. > > > > > On 6/25/2015 8:29 PM, Ken Waller wrote: >>> I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out. >> >> So you'd like his work if it was B+W ? >> >> Kenneth Waller >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >> >> - Original Message - From: "P.J. Alling" >> Subject: Re: Pentax spotted >> >> >>> I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out. >>> >>>> On 6/25/2015 5:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote: >>>> I hadn’t thought of that. Now I’m going to have to get my brain replaced. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:46 PM, P.J. Alling >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> With a name like Peter Lik, I'd expect his work to be a bit more bizarre, >>>>> but in a different way, just sayin'. >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/25/2015 2:07 PM, Gonz wrote: >>>>>> Looks like a 645 digital in the video? >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.europe.lik.com/ > > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I resent that remark, the price of Hard Drives has fallen considerably in the last few years... On 6/25/2015 7:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none. However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage we use. Paul via phone On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote: John wrote: He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he actually used some of the equipment he reviews. I was just about to phrase it as: Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically as Mr. Rockwell. But, yeah. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I donno, I'm sure Kennyboy finds they make fine paperweights and door stops. On 6/25/2015 6:09 PM, John wrote: He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he actually used some of the equipment he reviews. On 6/25/2015 2:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Nothing personal certainly, Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik and have sworn off. J - Original Message - From: "Gonz" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM Subject: Pentax spotted Looks like a 645 digital in the video? http://www.europe.lik.com/ -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'd be a Hypocrite, if I didn't admit to not overly processing to yield dramatic Black and White images. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20butisitart.html and before conversion https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20becauseannasked.html but you've got to know what you're working for. No one was ever really supposed to see the second image. On 6/25/2015 8:29 PM, Ken Waller wrote: I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out. So you'd like his work if it was B+W ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message ----- From: "P.J. Alling" Subject: Re: Pentax spotted I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out. On 6/25/2015 5:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote: I hadn’t thought of that. Now I’m going to have to get my brain replaced. On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:46 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: With a name like Peter Lik, I'd expect his work to be a bit more bizarre, but in a different way, just sayin'. On 6/25/2015 2:07 PM, Gonz wrote: Looks like a 645 digital in the video? http://www.europe.lik.com/ -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I agree Paul. I remember a John Shaw seminar where he was asked 'What's the best way to sell images"? He responded by advising the audience to become writers and use their images in the article/books. What I've seen over the years, especially since the wide spread use of digital capture, is that there are so many really good/great images out there that good marketing will set the difference between what sells and what doesn't. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" Subject: Re: Pentax spotted Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I consider him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it with intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who earn more than I do. More power to them. Paul On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none. However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage we use. Paul via phone On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote: John wrote: He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he actually used some of the equipment he reviews. I was just about to phrase it as: Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically as Mr. Rockwell. But, yeah. -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I especially enjoyed seeing his images mounted, framed and hung on clients walls. I generally ask people that have purchased my images to let me see the final result - mounted, matted & framed and where they've hung the images. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Christine Aguila" Subject: Re: Pentax spotted Some really interesting things on the site: 1) yes, there was a medium format Pentax, 2) Rick Wormer should check it out because he loves to shoot fields of blue bells, and there is a very nice shot of blue bells in the video, 3) the gallery of stills shows photographs printed large on canvas and how they might work hanging on the wall in different types of interior rooms—and his shot of the blue bells looks really nice in that dining room. Cheers, Christine On Jun 25, 2015, at 3:59 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Really? It’s excellent work, IMO. Of course that’s subjective. On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Nothing personal certainly, Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik and have sworn off. J - Original Message - From: "Gonz" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM Subject: Pentax spotted Looks like a 645 digital in the video? http://www.europe.lik.com/ -- -- Reduce your Government -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Some really interesting things on the site: 1) yes, there was a medium format Pentax, 2) Rick Wormer should check it out because he loves to shoot fields of blue bells, and there is a very nice shot of blue bells in the video, 3) the gallery of stills shows photographs printed large on canvas and how they might work hanging on the wall in different types of interior rooms—and his shot of the blue bells looks really nice in that dining room. Cheers, Christine > On Jun 25, 2015, at 3:59 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > > Really? It’s excellent work, IMO. Of course that’s subjective. > > >> On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >> >> Nothing personal certainly, Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik >> and have sworn off. >> >> J >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Gonz" >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM >> Subject: Pentax spotted >> >> Looks like a 645 digital in the video? >> >> http://www.europe.lik.com/ >> >> -- >> -- Reduce your Government Footprint >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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He's like Kinkade in that he's a good businessman, but Kinkade's work was sophomoric and derivative, while Lik's is somewhat unique and original. Kinkade is boring; Lik projects energy. Paul via phone > On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Larry Colen wrote: > >> John wrote: >>> He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the >>> 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. >>> >>> It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he >>> actually used some of the equipment he reviews. >> >> I was just about to phrase it as: >> >> Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and >> artistically as Mr. Rockwell. > > I disagree. I think he's more of a Thomas Kinkade than a Kenny > Rockwell. > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Larry Colen wrote: >John wrote: >> He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the >> 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. >> >> It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he >> actually used some of the equipment he reviews. > >I was just about to phrase it as: > >Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and >artistically as Mr. Rockwell. I disagree. I think he's more of a Thomas Kinkade than a Kenny Rockwell. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I consider him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it with intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who earn more than I do. More power to them. Paul > On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > Paul Stenquist wrote: >> A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great >> deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none. > > However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't make > enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage we use. > > >> >> Paul via phone >> >>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> John wrote: He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he actually used some of the equipment he reviews. >>> I was just about to phrase it as: >>> >>> Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically >>> as Mr. Rockwell. >>> >>> But, yeah. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out. So you'd like his work if it was B+W ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "P.J. Alling" Subject: Re: Pentax spotted I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out. On 6/25/2015 5:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote: I hadn’t thought of that. Now I’m going to have to get my brain replaced. On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:46 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: With a name like Peter Lik, I'd expect his work to be a bit more bizarre, but in a different way, just sayin'. On 6/25/2015 2:07 PM, Gonz wrote: Looks like a 645 digital in the video? http://www.europe.lik.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Paul Stenquist wrote: A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none. However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage we use. Paul via phone On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote: John wrote: He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he actually used some of the equipment he reviews. I was just about to phrase it as: Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically as Mr. Rockwell. But, yeah. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none. Paul via phone > On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > John wrote: >> He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the >> 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. >> >> It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he >> actually used some of the equipment he reviews. > > I was just about to phrase it as: > > Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically as > Mr. Rockwell. > > But, yeah. > > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It's not for purists perhaps, but it's colorful, well composed and a unique vision. For fans of same old, same old, I'm sure it's taboo. It has become intellectually compulsory to ridicule him, but he's quite the technician and damn gods at what he does. Paul via phone > On Jun 25, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > I'm a bit surprised, Paul, but as you > wrote, it is subjective. > J > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 25, 2015, at 1:59 PM, paul stenquist wrote: >> >> Really? It’s excellent work, IMO. Of course that’s subjective. >> >> >>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >>> >>> Nothing personal certainly, Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik >>> and have sworn off. >>> >>> J >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Gonz" >>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM >>> Subject: Pentax spotted >>> >>> Looks like a 645 digital in the video? >>> >>> http://www.europe.lik.com/ >>> >>> -- >>> -- Reduce your Government Footprint >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well put, Larry! J Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > John wrote: >> He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the >> 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. >> >> It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he >> actually used some of the equipment he reviews. > > I was just about to phrase it as: > > Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically as > Mr. Rockwell. > > But, yeah. > > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Probably due to your living upside down too long. J Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015, at 04:18 AM, Jack Davis wrote: >> Nothing personal certainly, Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik >> and have sworn off. > > > How dare you sir! He's one of our National Living Treasures!! > > > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > >> >> J >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Gonz" >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM >> Subject: Pentax spotted >> >> Looks like a 645 digital in the video? >> >> http://www.europe.lik.com/ >> >> -- >> -- Reduce your Government Footprint >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > -- > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - The professional email service > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John wrote: He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he actually used some of the equipment he reviews. I was just about to phrase it as: Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically as Mr. Rockwell. But, yeah. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he actually used some of the equipment he reviews. On 6/25/2015 2:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Nothing personal certainly, Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik and have sworn off. J - Original Message - From: "Gonz" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM Subject: Pentax spotted Looks like a 645 digital in the video? http://www.europe.lik.com/ -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2015, at 04:18 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > Nothing personal certainly, Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik > and have sworn off. How dare you sir! He's one of our National Living Treasures!! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > J > > - Original Message - > From: "Gonz" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM > Subject: Pentax spotted > > Looks like a 645 digital in the video? > > http://www.europe.lik.com/ > > -- > -- Reduce your Government Footprint > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out. On 6/25/2015 5:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote: I hadn’t thought of that. Now I’m going to have to get my brain replaced. On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:46 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: With a name like Peter Lik, I'd expect his work to be a bit more bizarre, but in a different way, just sayin'. On 6/25/2015 2:07 PM, Gonz wrote: Looks like a 645 digital in the video? http://www.europe.lik.com/ -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm a bit surprised, Paul, but as you wrote, it is subjective. J Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2015, at 1:59 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > > Really? It’s excellent work, IMO. Of course that’s subjective. > > >> On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >> >> Nothing personal certainly, Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik >> and have sworn off. >> >> J >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Gonz" >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM >> Subject: Pentax spotted >> >> Looks like a 645 digital in the video? >> >> http://www.europe.lik.com/ >> >> -- >> -- Reduce your Government Footprint >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I hadn’t thought of that. Now I’m going to have to get my brain replaced. > On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:46 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > > With a name like Peter Lik, I'd expect his work to be a bit more bizarre, but > in a different way, just sayin'. > > On 6/25/2015 2:07 PM, Gonz wrote: >> Looks like a 645 digital in the video? >> >> http://www.europe.lik.com/ >> > > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Really? It’s excellent work, IMO. Of course that’s subjective. > On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > Nothing personal certainly, Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik and > have sworn off. > > J > > - Original Message - > From: "Gonz" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM > Subject: Pentax spotted > > Looks like a 645 digital in the video? > > http://www.europe.lik.com/ > > -- > -- Reduce your Government Footprint > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Funny cuz I thought the first posting didnt make it, remembering that in the past the discussion list needed text only and my email is not by default. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Gonz wrote: > Oh yeah, I dont care for the overpriced and overhyped stuff. Just > care about the use of the medium format Pentax shown there. > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >> Nothing personal certainly, Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik >> and have sworn off. >> >> J >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Gonz" >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM >> Subject: Pentax spotted >> >> Looks like a 645 digital in the video? >> >> http://www.europe.lik.com/ >> >> -- >> -- Reduce your Government Footprint >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You may not like him or his marketing but his photography speaks for itself. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: Re: Pentax spotted Nothing personal certainly, Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik and have sworn off. J - Original Message - From: "Gonz" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM Subject: Pentax spotted Looks like a 645 digital in the video? http://www.europe.lik.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh yeah, I dont care for the overpriced and overhyped stuff. Just care about the use of the medium format Pentax shown there. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Nothing personal certainly, Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik and > have sworn off. > > J > > - Original Message - > From: "Gonz" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM > Subject: Pentax spotted > > Looks like a 645 digital in the video? > > http://www.europe.lik.com/ > > -- > -- Reduce your Government Footprint > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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With a name like Peter Lik, I'd expect his work to be a bit more bizarre, but in a different way, just sayin'. On 6/25/2015 2:07 PM, Gonz wrote: Looks like a 645 digital in the video? http://www.europe.lik.com/ -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nothing personal certainly, Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik and have sworn off. J - Original Message - From: "Gonz" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM Subject: Pentax spotted Looks like a 645 digital in the video? http://www.europe.lik.com/ -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My favorite part (besides Rebecca in various stages of undress) is when Antonio is using his 645N, takes a picture, runs over to his Mac and umm, plugs the camera in and DOWNLOADS the picture and prints it! I'd recommend the movie to anyone who likes weird plot twists, lots of sex and Pentax cameras (there's a few Canons too). Christian -Original Message- From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Jun 24, 2004 6:25 PM To: Pentax List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Pentax spotted on the screen redux My TiVo box decided to record "Femme Fatale". As there wasn't much else on, and it had a decent cast, I decided to give it a try. At one point, Antoni Banderas' character is trying to get a photograph of Rebecca Romijn-Stamos' character, using a PZ-1p and an FA* 80-200/2.8!
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Hi, > My TiVo box decided to record "Femme Fatale". > As there wasn't much else on, and it had a decent > cast, I decided to give it a try. > At one point, Antoni Banderas' character is trying > to get a photograph of Rebecca Romijn-Stamos' character, > using a PZ-1p and an FA* 80-200/2.8! On British TV last week there was a showing of Nicolas Roeg's "Performance" with James Fox and Mick Jagger. http://www.phinnweb.com/roeg/films/performance/images.html I noticed that in one scene - where the Fox character is in a pub with his gangster boss and various henchmen - that someone is taking a lot of photos with a Spotmatic of some sort. -- Cheers, Bob
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And someone said no one bought that lens! Hah!! -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pentax List) Subject: Pentax spotted on the screen redux Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:25:46 -0400 (EDT) My TiVo box decided to record "Femme Fatale". As there wasn't much else on, and it had a decent cast, I decided to give it a try. At one point, Antoni Banderas' character is trying to get a photograph of Rebecca Romijn-Stamos' character, using a PZ-1p and an FA* 80-200/2.8! _ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee® Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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One slip and it will be underwater camera!! Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Well, don't forget this combination is water damped in this case :-) _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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Well, don't forget this combination is water damped in this case :-) On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 02:27, Alan Chan wrote: > I wonder if pin sharp result are possible with setup like this. Last time I > tried, my Z-1p was hopeless with 300/4.5+2X due to mirror/shutter vibration > even though the shutter was 1/250s on tripod. :-( > > Regards, > Alan Chan > http://www.pbase.com/wlachan > > >Who said Pentaxes weren't tough? The picture shows a Z1p with what I > >think is a 250 - 600 attached being used armpit deep in water. I saw > >the poster in an Australian Geographic shop. > > > >http://www.museum.vic.gov.au/whatson/show.asp?ID=561442 > > _ > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines -- Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I think it would be a wonder safari lens, but I wonder if any serious shooters actually bought one for the purpose. To be a little OT, the F* has a double deck hood which is a lot deeper than the FA*. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Intersting. This is one big lens. I believe, I once read that this lens (range) was designed especially for baseball and sold at the price of a very nice car? _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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Intersting. This is one big lens. I believe, I once read that this lens (range) was designed especially for baseball and sold at the price of a very nice car? Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 14. april 2004 09:12 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Pentax spotted Dunno about pin sharp, but I've had satisfactory results from just that setup (PZ-1p, 250-600, monopod). Not up to my chest in water, mind you. > I wonder if pin sharp result are possible with setup like this. Last time I > tried, my Z-1p was hopeless with 300/4.5+2X due to mirror/shutter vibration > even though the shutter was 1/250s on tripod. :-( > > Regards, > Alan Chan > http://www.pbase.com/wlachan > > >Who said Pentaxes weren't tough? The picture shows a Z1p with what I > >think is a 250 - 600 attached being used armpit deep in water. I saw > >the poster in an Australian Geographic shop. > > > >http://www.museum.vic.gov.au/whatson/show.asp?ID=561442 > > _ > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=htt p://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines >
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I wonder if pin sharp result are possible with setup like this. Last time I tried, my Z-1p was hopeless with 300/4.5+2X due to mirror/shutter vibration even though the shutter was 1/250s on tripod. :-( Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Who said Pentaxes weren't tough? The picture shows a Z1p with what I think is a 250 - 600 attached being used armpit deep in water. I saw the poster in an Australian Geographic shop. http://www.museum.vic.gov.au/whatson/show.asp?ID=561442 _ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines