Re: Peso Looking up-looking down
With the planned obsolence and high cost of repair so prevelant in many of todays products, cameras included, it seems like functional product longevity is not as big a factor as it once was. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" Subject: Re: Peso Looking up-looking down Another point of failure? Sure, sort of like electric windows, air conditioning and other options on cars. On balance, it should be up to the consumer whether he wishes to have them or not. Sales figures would determine whether it was worthwhile for a company to offer the option or now. It would certainly be one way of separating your flagship product from the more basic lines (something that Pentax seems to have a problem with, ATTM. The K-500 is hardly different from the K-50, for instance). On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: Well, convenient as articulating screens are, they just add another point of failure to an already complex device. I can understand why a manufacturer would forgo making models with this feature. On 7/30/2013 12:19 PM, Darren Addy wrote: THIS is the reason for articulating LCD screens. I think that if camera companies are going to make duplicate models except for the anti-alias filter then they could also make duplicate models with/without an articulating LCD screen. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM, David J Brooks wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17480450 The photographer is lying on the ground looking up i assume to try and get all of the CN Tower in the back ground. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Looking up-looking down
On 30/07/2013 10:40 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Another point of failure? Sure, sort of like electric windows, air conditioning and other options on cars. On balance, it should be up to the consumer whether he wishes to have them or not. Sales figures would determine whether it was worthwhile for a company to offer the option or now. It would certainly be one way of separating your flagship product from the more basic lines (something that Pentax seems to have a problem with, ATTM. The K-500 is hardly different from the K-50, for instance). On a car, adding power windows, etc is putting options onto the vehicle with no major redesigns. Putting an articulating screen onto a camera is a major redesign of the back of the camera, essentially the manufacturer would be making another camera model which would either pirate sales from the sister model or fall hard in the marketplace. Either way, it will cost the company ROI. Power windows as an option on a vehicle does not have the same effect. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Looking up-looking down
hehe - hope she can get up! ann On 7/30/2013 11:16, David J Brooks wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17480450 The photographer is lying on the ground looking up i assume to try and get all of the CN Tower in the back ground. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Looking up-looking down
It is, you can always get a Nikon D5100. Pentax chooses not to have that point of failure. Just yesterday I was walking out of a local dry goods emporium when I was almost bowled over by an unhappy customer Kuerig coffee maker clutched to their breast, with murder in their eye, on the way to the complaint department. Pentax probably want's to avoid such scenarios as much as possible. The K500 is a bargain among entry level cameras, you get the full capabilities of the mid level camera for a price closer to that of the most basic Canon Rebel. All you seem to lose is weather sealing. That seems like a good deal, not something to upbraid the company about. On 7/30/2013 12:40 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Another point of failure? Sure, sort of like electric windows, air conditioning and other options on cars. On balance, it should be up to the consumer whether he wishes to have them or not. Sales figures would determine whether it was worthwhile for a company to offer the option or now. It would certainly be one way of separating your flagship product from the more basic lines (something that Pentax seems to have a problem with, ATTM. The K-500 is hardly different from the K-50, for instance). On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: Well, convenient as articulating screens are, they just add another point of failure to an already complex device. I can understand why a manufacturer would forgo making models with this feature. On 7/30/2013 12:19 PM, Darren Addy wrote: THIS is the reason for articulating LCD screens. I think that if camera companies are going to make duplicate models except for the anti-alias filter then they could also make duplicate models with/without an articulating LCD screen. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM, David J Brooks wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17480450 The photographer is lying on the ground looking up i assume to try and get all of the CN Tower in the back ground. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Looking up-looking down
EDIT: "or now" should be "or not". On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > Another point of failure? Sure, sort of like electric windows, air > conditioning and other options on cars. On balance, it should be up to > the consumer whether he wishes to have them or not. Sales figures > would determine whether it was worthwhile for a company to offer the > option or now. It would certainly be one way of separating your > flagship product from the more basic lines (something that Pentax > seems to have a problem with, ATTM. The K-500 is hardly different from > the K-50, for instance). > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM, P.J. Alling > wrote: >> Well, convenient as articulating screens are, they just add another point of >> failure to an already complex device. I can understand why a manufacturer >> would forgo making models with this feature. >> >> >> On 7/30/2013 12:19 PM, Darren Addy wrote: >>> >>> THIS is the reason for articulating LCD screens. I think that if >>> camera companies are going to make duplicate models except for the >>> anti-alias filter then they could also make duplicate models >>> with/without an articulating LCD screen. >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM, David J Brooks >>> wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17480450 The photographer is lying on the ground looking up i assume to try and get all of the CN Tower in the back ground. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive >> failure, and those that will. >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - > Peter Galassi -- "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Looking up-looking down
Another point of failure? Sure, sort of like electric windows, air conditioning and other options on cars. On balance, it should be up to the consumer whether he wishes to have them or not. Sales figures would determine whether it was worthwhile for a company to offer the option or now. It would certainly be one way of separating your flagship product from the more basic lines (something that Pentax seems to have a problem with, ATTM. The K-500 is hardly different from the K-50, for instance). On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > Well, convenient as articulating screens are, they just add another point of > failure to an already complex device. I can understand why a manufacturer > would forgo making models with this feature. > > > On 7/30/2013 12:19 PM, Darren Addy wrote: >> >> THIS is the reason for articulating LCD screens. I think that if >> camera companies are going to make duplicate models except for the >> anti-alias filter then they could also make duplicate models >> with/without an articulating LCD screen. >> >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM, David J Brooks >> wrote: >>> >>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17480450 >>> >>> The photographer is lying on the ground looking up i assume to try and >>> get all of the CN Tower in the back ground. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> -- >>> Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. >>> www.caughtinmotion.com >>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >>> York Region, Ontario, Canada >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> > > > -- > There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive > failure, and those that will. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Looking up-looking down
THIS is the reason for articulating LCD screens. I think that if camera companies are going to make duplicate models except for the anti-alias filter then they could also make duplicate models with/without an articulating LCD screen. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17480450 > > The photographer is lying on the ground looking up i assume to try and > get all of the CN Tower in the back ground. > > Dave > > -- > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > York Region, Ontario, Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Looking up-looking down
Well, convenient as articulating screens are, they just add another point of failure to an already complex device. I can understand why a manufacturer would forgo making models with this feature. On 7/30/2013 12:19 PM, Darren Addy wrote: THIS is the reason for articulating LCD screens. I think that if camera companies are going to make duplicate models except for the anti-alias filter then they could also make duplicate models with/without an articulating LCD screen. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM, David J Brooks wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17480450 The photographer is lying on the ground looking up i assume to try and get all of the CN Tower in the back ground. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.